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One man cannot say everything correct, Humans make mistake, their philosophies evolve and adapt with time due to contribution of various persons and become more and more mature, foolproof and complete......in that respect, Hinduism is the most complete religion as it evolved for thousands of years and is still evolving, Whereas, you guys do not want to change what one man said more than a thousand years ago, and you can see the result of those medieval, barbaric teachings in modern Islamic world.....therefore, Islam is one of the most incomplete religion....

I dont understand what your religion evolved so far. When we made all human equal thousand years ago. You guys are still practicing these untouchablity. Even in subservient mind it will always work to look down on lower casts. Sacred animal gods will always remain. If you diminish these practices what will left to separately identify this religion? Or you are proposing you are progressing towards atheism.

not marrying your sister, then you are not practicing true Islam
Muslims marry their cousins only.
 
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I dont understand what your religion evolved so far. When we made all human equal thousand years ago. You guys are still practicing these untouchablity. Even in subservient mind it will always work to look down on lower casts. Sacred animal gods will always remain.
Firstly, we're not practicing untouchability(or any other thing that can be regarded as unjust to a person with common sense) by law.....those who are practicing are doing something illegal and punishable by law.....
We being the largest Hindu nation of the world, have made our constitution secular, made all those medieval, unjust, illogical, cruel practices of Hinduism illegal and added, what we thought is sensible....i.e, we wanted to change the way we lived by changing our medieval mindset........that's called philosophical evolution/adaptation/progress with time......
BUT, as you know that Evolution(physical) takes time and it doesn't have equal effect on everyone(otherwise all animals would have evolved to look and function the same) but the general trend is towards betterment, more efficiency etc.....LIKEWISE, philosophical evolution also takes time and has different effect on different person, but the general trend is towards betterment, more logic and common sense.......
Therefore, even though majority of us condemn all those social evils and have devised ways(made laws) to stop them, still, some people remain, who are unable to understand or cope with the change(those who are practicing those evils) and like physical evolution punish those who are unable to cope with changing environment by eliminating them and allowing only the fittest and most efficient to survive, philosophical evolution punish those who are unable to or don't want to understand/cope with new and changing social circumstances(on which new laws and regulations are formulated) by putting them behind bars for not following/breaking those laws and allowing freedom to only those who understand and conform to the new and everchanging laws and regulations....like this the society progresses along with religious philosophies....

Now, regarding your religion, the main problem is, relying on the words of one man.....more precisely, on what his companions have noted.......
Therefore, not surprisingly, you see lot of contradictions in the teachings of Islam which might have resulted due to different persons(his companions) interpreting his words differently and/or by the mistakes the prophet made himself......but you accept all those contradictions and illogics as they are, saying that they are actually words of god revealed to you by your prophet.....and this acceptance of self-contradictory ideas is the root cause of all the problems in Islam.......you say your prophet has made all men equal but what about woman?? why they were not given equal rights as men?? are they not humans??.....that's one hypocrisy I pointed out based on what you said, if you want to talk about more, I can provide more, just let me know.

If you diminish these practices what will left to separately identify this religion? Or you are proposing you are progressing towards atheism....
Hinduism is not just a set of practices, it has deep philosophical, spiritual, intellectual as well as physical aspects which has been recognized even by the Westerners.......whereas Islam is just a set of rules compiled in Quran, what else is there, nothing IMHO, no profound philosophical background, no logical/intellectual analysis, just the order to follow the rules strictly and believe in one God. Its almost like following a dictator......

Muslims marry their cousins only.
That is called 'incest' by the rest of the world, it prevents genetic diversity......
 
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Firstly, we're not practicing untouchability(or any other thing that can be regarded as unjust to a person with common sense) by law.....those who are practicing are doing something illegal and punishable by law.....
We being the largest Hindu nation of the world, have made our constitution secular, made all those medieval, unjust, illogical, cruel practices of Hinduism illegal and added, what we thought is sensible....i.e, we wanted to change the way we lived by changing our medieval mindset........that's called philosophical evolution/adaptation/progress with time......
BUT, as you know that Evolution(physical) takes time and it doesn't have equal effect on everyone(otherwise all animals would have evolved to look and function the same) but the general trend is towards betterment, more efficiency etc.....LIKEWISE, philosophical evolution also takes time and has different effect on different person, but the general trend is towards betterment, more logic and common sense.......
Therefore, even though majority of us condemn all those social evils and have devised ways(made laws) to stop them, still, some people remain, who are unable to understand or cope with the change(those who are practicing those evils) and like physical evolution punish those who are unable to cope with changing environment by eliminating them and allowing only the fittest and most efficient to survive, philosophical evolution punish those who are unable to or don't want to understand/cope with new and changing social circumstances(on which new laws and regulations are formulated) by putting them behind bars for not following/breaking those laws and allowing freedom to only those who understand and conform to the new and everchanging laws and regulations....like this the society progresses along with the religious philosophies....

Now, regarding your religion, the main problem is, relying on the words of one man.....more precisely, on what his companions have noted.......
Therefore, not surprisingly, you see lot of contradictions in the teachings of Islam which might have resulted due to different persons(his companions) interpreting his words differently and/or by the mistakes the prophet made himself......but you accept all those contradictions and illogics as they are, saying that they are actually words of god revealed to you by your prophet.....and this acceptance of self-contradictory ideas is the root cause of all problems in Islam.......you say your prophet has made all men equal but what about woman?? why they were not given equal rights as men?? are they not humans??.....that's one hypocrisy I pointed out based on what you said, if you want to talk about more, I can provide more, just let me know.


Hinduism is not just a set of practices, it has deep philosophical, spiritual, intellectual as well as physical aspects which has been recognized even by the Westerners.......whereas Islam is just a set of rules compiled in Quran, what else is there, nothing IMHO, no profound philosophical background, no logical/intellectual analysis, just the order to follow the rules strictly and believe in one God. Its almost like following a dictator......


That is called 'incest' by the rest of the world, it prevents genetic diversity......

Oye hindu insaan ban, janwar jesa to paida huwa hi hai per insaan ban. Hindus marry their mother family cousins and plus niece also which is disgusting. Only father gotra is forbidden.

So any grown up hindu have no problem marrying niece yet give lecture to muslim on cousin marriages lol
 
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But no shame on the Muslims who won't allow a non-Muslim to enter Mecca?
There are always restricted in areas in countries we have two of our own but we doesn't see a human who we can't touch like you do
 
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Dikhaao bh*en Ch*d log!
Ham to aise Masalaa nikaal denge.
To this MALLU! @Koovie, Bhosidike , spice trade started from your state and you are the prime example of it!
WTF ARE YOU TRYING TO COVER UP THE EXCUSES FOR TRINITY ?
Better than being some slaves of Nizam and urdu speaking immigrant razakkars.. LOL...So what??...Though half of our population are from minority religions,We didn't had any foreign jihadi rulers or an alien language Urdu as official language like your Hyderabad state..LOL...
 
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Urdu as official language like your Hyderabad state

Urdu official language? I never even heard in my state or in any schools. Could be some Madrasas in Hyderabad old city may teach. None of the telugu speaking people study urdu.
 
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This thread has served it's purpose. It should be locked ASAP. :closed:
 
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Firstly, we're not practicing untouchability(or any other thing that can be regarded as unjust to a person with common sense) by law.....those who are practicing are doing something illegal and punishable by law.....
We being the largest Hindu nation of the world, have made our constitution secular, made all those medieval, unjust, illogical, cruel practices of Hinduism illegal and added, what we thought is sensible....i.e, we wanted to change the way we lived by changing our medieval mindset........that's called philosophical evolution/adaptation/progress with time......
BUT, as you know that Evolution(physical) takes time and it doesn't have equal effect on everyone(otherwise all animals would have evolved to look and function the same) but the general trend is towards betterment, more efficiency etc.....LIKEWISE, philosophical evolution also takes time and has different effect on different person, but the general trend is towards betterment, more logic and common sense.......
Therefore, even though majority of us condemn all those social evils and have devised ways(made laws) to stop them, still, some people remain, who are unable to understand or cope with the change(those who are practicing those evils) and like physical evolution punish those who are unable to cope with changing environment by eliminating them and allowing only the fittest and most efficient to survive, philosophical evolution punish those who are unable to or don't want to understand/cope with new and changing social circumstances(on which new laws and regulations are formulated) by putting them behind bars for not following/breaking those laws and allowing freedom to only those who understand and conform to the new and everchanging laws and regulations....like this the society progresses along with religious philosophies....

Now, regarding your religion, the main problem is, relying on the words of one man.....more precisely, on what his companions have noted.......
Therefore, not surprisingly, you see lot of contradictions in the teachings of Islam which might have resulted due to different persons(his companions) interpreting his words differently and/or by the mistakes the prophet made himself......but you accept all those contradictions and illogics as they are, saying that they are actually words of god revealed to you by your prophet.....and this acceptance of self-contradictory ideas is the root cause of all the problems in Islam.......you say your prophet has made all men equal but what about woman?? why they were not given equal rights as men?? are they not humans??.....that's one hypocrisy I pointed out based on what you said, if you want to talk about more, I can provide more, just let me know.


Hinduism is not just a set of practices, it has deep philosophical, spiritual, intellectual as well as physical aspects which has been recognized even by the Westerners.......whereas Islam is just a set of rules compiled in Quran, what else is there, nothing IMHO, no profound philosophical background, no logical/intellectual analysis, just the order to follow the rules strictly and believe in one God. Its almost like following a dictator......


That is called 'incest' by the rest of the world, it prevents genetic diversity......

Bro you have so much misconception about Islam. I dont mind these as Ive seen many Hindus conversion. Hinduism isnt a religion which makes one proud. Today prosperous hindus turned atheists.

Your subjective choice of Arabs are idiotic. As they arent the owner of Islam alone. We in subcontinent given women more power than anyone. Muslim sultan to PM.
 
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Urdu official language? I never even heard in my state or in any schools. Could be some Madrasas in Hyderabad old city may teach. None of the telugu speaking people study urdu.
I meant former ''State of Hyderabad''....Persian was your official language until around 1890's and Urdu until 1948...correct me if i am wrong...
thank you...
 
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Bro you have so much misconception about Islam. I dont mind these as Ive seen many Hindus conversion. Hinduism isnt a religion which makes one proud. Today prosperous hindus turned atheists....
You don't realize it(like most Muslims) that you're a closed-minded person......you don't want to realize that the concept of 'good' and 'evil' are relative matters....
You think my point of view on Islam is my misconception while I think your views regarding Hinduism is your misconception.
You think Hinduism isn't a religion to be proud of, I think Islam isn't a religion to be proud of.......you give reasons in support of your views, I give reasons in support of my views..........
Then, do you and I have similar mindset? NO, the difference is, you don't want to accept the shortcomings of your religion and want to keep it the way it is, whereas I accept the shortcomings of my religion and want to change them....that makes me open-minded and you, closed-minded.

Regarding conversions, if you keep you ears and eyes open, you'll find that it happens both ways, Hindus are not prohibited/threatened, so you see some converting, even turning into atheist...... Muslims convert as well but to lesser extent because Islam prohibits and threatens Muslims from converting.....

Your subjective choice of Arabs are idiotic. As they arent the owner of Islam alone. We in subcontinent given women more power than anyone. Muslim sultan to PM.
The Quran was interpreted, written and compiled mainly by the Arabs, if you are not following it and/or have modified it according to your own perception, then you are most probably not following 'true' Islam as words of God cannot be modified.
 
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Better than being some slaves of Nizam and urdu speaking immigrant razakkars.. LOL...So what??...Though half of our population are from minority religions,We didn't had any foreign jihadi rulers or an alien language Urdu as official language like your Hyderabad state..LOL...
Urdu was never spoken by many,
For Razakars,we kicked them out and did justice to them on Police Action day.
LoL You were culled by Portugese,then tipu sultan forgot it so easily?
 
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Urdu was never spoken by many,
For Razakars,we kicked them out and did justice to them on Police Action day.
LoL You were culled by Portugese,then tipu sultan forgot it so easily?
hik hik hik. Urdu is SECOND OFFICIAL language of current telegana state(any doubts,ask your C.M Mr.Rao)...Its the de facto language of Hyderabad city,ohh wait..The name Hyderabad itself is of Persian Islamic origin,ne??...
Who kicked Razakkars??..You were freed only after the intervention of Indian Army,Operation polo....
Reg Portuguese and Tipu-They were ruled only some pockets for some time..Or otherwise we too speak Portuguese or Urdu like SOME others...
 
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hik hik hik. Urdu is SECOND OFFICIAL language of current telegana state(any doubts,ask your C.M Mr.Rao)...Its the de facto language of Hyderabad city,ohh wait..The name Hyderabad itself is of Persian Islamic origin,ne??...
Who kicked Razakkars??..You were freed only after the intervention of Indian Army,Operation polo....
Reg Portuguese and Tipu-They were ruled only some pockets for some time..Or otherwise we too speak Portuguese or Urdu like SOME others...
Sorry even before the army came into picture for 2 years the hindus were fighting the razakaars, if you dont know about then i can only laugh about your ignorance.
Telugu is the official language and as long as it stays the first official language i am not bothered if anyone wants to speak swahili or spanish besides muslims speak urdu,we are not bothered about it.
Oh... so portugese and tipu didnt rule you?Your state is always ruled by a minority, while ours is not.
he he he he.
 
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