Big Three finally end. India lost both governance and revenue vote.

[xyxmt]

More than 100 million people watch IPL regularly. Wait is it a billion? lol

they come to see white man

 

[Peshwa]

Again, those advertisers are paying for INTERNATIONAL competition - the value they perceive in pumping that money comes from the calculation that there will be high public interest in INTERNATIONAL competition involving India. If all they cared about was India, then the Ranji trophy and other domestic ODI competitions would be pulling in just as much revenue.

Like I said, the advertisers and television rights bidders might be predominantly from India, but they are pumping in that money because India is playing other countries. That revenue dries up for all parties (including India) if India pulls out or countries other than India pull out.

Population by country for major cricket nations:
India: 1.3 B
Pakistan: 196 MM
BD: 164MM
SA: 55MM
Zim: 16MM
AUS: 24MM
ENG: 53MM
NZ: 4.5MM

Viewership with India: 1.8B
Viewership w/o India: 512MM

That is a HUGE markdown on viewership and GRPs. And even within the remaining nations, Cricket except in Pak and BD is only mildly popular.
So purely based on numbers, the advertiser decision will be heavily dependent on the viewership which it loses without Indian participation.

 

[Sloth 22]

India should first decide to stay out of CT17..which India won't do..i will appreciate if they really does it..ICC may be at break even without profit..But what india will get 0

I would personally want BCCI to pull out just a day before of the start so that a replacement team isn't arranged as it will increase the losses in revenues.

Anyways by tomorrow night, most of the thing will be clear.

 

[xyxmt]

Everyone wants to play India. That is how they earn money. Even Pakistan too want to play India. It is simple...India is the money power house of international cricket.

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

 

[Sloth 22]

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

And because India brings in more money , it deserves a bigger share too.

 

[Peshwa]

Exactly - ICC event generated revenue should be distributed fairly while domestic league revenue goes directly to the respective boards organizing the events. So what's the problem with the ICC proposal?

Because Indian viewership is whats driving the lions share of the revenue generated from advertising.
So basically a country like say Afg which is in the infancy of cricket should have an equal share in the revenue as India?
Why don't you compare the GRPs of a India vs. Afg match with that of an Afg vs. Pak match?
If the GRPs are equal then the proposal being shot down is valid. If not, you get your answer. Simple.

 

[ito]

Population by country for major cricket nations:
India: 1.3 B
Pakistan: 196 MM
BD: 164MM
SA: 55MM
Zim: 16MM
AUS: 24MM
ENG: 53MM
NZ: 4.5MM

Viewership with India: 1.8B
Viewership w/o India: 512MM

That is a HUGE markdown on viewership and GRPs. And even within the remaining nations, Cricket except in Pak and BD is only mildly popular.
So purely based on numbers, the advertiser decision will be heavily dependent on the viewership which it loses without Indian participation.

The other thing is in other countries cricket is not the major game. Take the example of UK, where football is more popular. So advertisers there will be more interested in football than cricket. But to reach Indian consumer, cricket is the only way. So that make quite a difference on how advertiser view cricket without India

 

[Peshwa]

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

The other thing is in other countries cricket is not the major game. Take the example of UK, where football is more popular. So advertisers there will be more interested in football than cricket. But to reach Indian consumer, cricket is the only way. So that make quite a difference on how advertiser view cricket without India

True. I think I brushed on that in my analysis.

 

[ito]

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

Who wouldn't want to play with India. All countries will line up to play with India.

 

[Shajida Khan]

Correct - viewers want to watch INTERNATIONAL competition involving India - it is the INTERNATIONAL competition that creates value for advertisers, not just India by herself. A boycott of the ICC by the BCCI hurts the BCCI just as much as it hurts the other countries.

For the BCCI to create in essence a 'breakaway organization' in competition to the ICC would eventually arrive at the same point - the cricket boards in each country voted the way they did because they want a fair distribution formula. Why would they join a breakaway league to pursue something they have already considered to not be in their interests?

Point is, India has much bigger source of income via cricket. It can dictate terms. It can offer better deals to other teams on a bilateral basis while still getting bigger piece of the pie by kicking ICC out.

 

[Peshwa]

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

We really don't need to play an international event under the ICC umbrella you do realize right?
An India vs. Any country in a friendly bilateral tournament will still drive higher GRPs than an Aus. vs. Pak under ICC. Its simply the numbers, you cant deny it.

 

[Shajida Khan]

thats not the point, India bring more money because they play international cricket, without them what will India play with

IPL to say the least.

 

[Laozi]

India will get its due share.

It just requires a right person to pull the right strings

at right time

 

[Peshwa]

they come to see white man

But India vs. Pak has no white men. Still it generates more GRPs than any other match domestic or overseas.
So then what are viewers really watching?

 

[DHARMICACE]

they come to see white man

abe JHAND only 3 overseas players are allowed. And by that logics pakis to come to see white men not to forget that there are black players to there along with NRIS