Big Shock to India: G20 Boycott: Many Countries refuse to go to Indian Occupied Kashmir in Srinagar

[Asian.Century]

Breaking: South Africa, Malaysia, Mongolia did not attend G20 India submit.

Well well: More Countries withdraw from the disputed region Kashmir G20 Summit, Is it now turning into a failure and a shame for India?

 

[delta2]

Haha delusional people make claims and can't prove it. I already found one yesterday.

Takes one to know one. Don't hold your breath.

Pakistan can easily stir up the Golden Temple situation even, and you're here flexing over some made up Indian myths about Kashmir Lol! Usual bakht!

For the G20 summit in the disputed territory of Kashmir India was given certain guaranees from certain corners that all of a sudden the scum of the rapist Indian army will not be ambushed.

 

[delta2]

Lol. Indians are ceos of major MNC's in the west. There's no cultural barrier as such. India is limited by its form of government not intellect. You have a racist understanding of Indian culture. However I concur I don't want to waste my time on Stupids like you.

It is the Indians that are famous for being scammers. I know many people personally that hang up the phone as soon as an Indian accent answers the customer service line. I do so myself to be frank.

The Indian culture is inherently racist. You are known in the West generally as greedy and an irritant.

You do not see a trend the USA is losing edge in some and has lost so in other fields to China as more and more CEOs are Indian? Any corp an Indian takes over it gets grounded into dust.

Twitter alone is the latest example. Musk fired about 80% of the Twitter employees, including the so called CEO. That Indian CEO proved incompetent.

The information you sent is clearly incorrect.
For example, everyone in this forum knows that Pakistan did not attend. But in your profile, Pakistan attended this summit.
View attachment 931302


South Africa, Malaysia, Mongolia did not attend either, but your profile still highlighted them in red.

China has 40+ neighbors, but only India, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and Indonesia. Five countries attended the US democracy summit.
Pakistan, Malaysia and other countries directly refused to attend the meeting. The Philippines attended the meeting, but Philippine President duterte directly criticized the human rights situation and pseudo democracy in the USA. Indonesia participated in the meeting but refused to speak at the meeting. On the same day that South Korea announced its participation in the summit, it announced its support for the Beijing Winter Olympics and cancelled trade negotiations with Taiwan officials.
In fact, the only neighbors who are really hostile to us are India and Japan.

BTW: there are 260 countries in this world. The 111 participating countries you mentioned are not only many that did not actually participate, but the vast majority are small islands in the Pacific and small countries in the Caribbean.

Japan is hostile becaudse of trade issues. They want open and unfettered access to the Chinese market. In the past Japan declared war against China over market access issues.

 

[delta2]

Try not to talk arrant nonsense.

The British Indian Army was divided at the time of partition, and the troops that India sent to Srinagar were part of the Indian 60% share of the divide. 40%, drawn from the so-called martial races almost exclusively, were serving Pakistani soldiers and officers.


Thank you for your very condescending analysis. It is valuable, and shall be treasured.


Thank you for your very condescending analysis. It is valuable, and shall be treasured.

Do you really want your nonsense refuted in detail? Can be done. Just say the word. Your line of fictitious self-aggrandisement is getting very tiresome.


Quite so, said the pillar of probity, wrapping himself in the cloak of the high reputation that he and his fellows have acquired worldwide.


You should complete your fictional passages.

We are very luck that we have only idiots opposing us, and only their wet-dreams against historical facts. Very luck indeed.

Lol you all of a sudden deny that a larger Indian army was not stopped in its track by a bunch of tribals?

Indians "trained" the "Afghan National Army" which surrendered to the Taliban in less than a week despite being armed and larger in numbers.

1948 the tribal militia most likely were out numbered by the Indians 30 to 1. They outnumbered the Pakistan "Army" but still couldn't move an inch as soon as they saw some resistance.

So keep reading your myths yourself.

The Indians managed to teach cowardice to Afghans. Something even the brutal USSR oppression couldn't achieve.

So go sh!t in the street in front of each other and spare us your nonsense.

 

[kankan326]

The reason is our stupid PM 'Nehru' who accepted Tibet as part of china, for their friendship. He is the most stupidest PM in indian history. Even if a kid was Indian PM at 1957, he would only accept Tibet only if China accepted Kashmir. its no brainer , in anycase, china or any other country can skip , G20 will continue

Do you kow why China admitted Sikkim as part of India?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Lol you all of a sudden deny that a larger Indian army was not stopped in its track by a bunch of tribals?

There was no Indian Army while the tribals marched up to Muzaffarabad by the 22nd of October, and then on to Baramula, where they looted, killed and raped for the interval needed for Hari Singh to sign his accession to India. Only very weak elements of the State Forces stood between them and Srinagar.

They then marched towards Srinagar, having found the correct way, and killed the NC activist, Sherwani, whose name is still remembered in Baramula. They met resistance from the State forces, killed the commander, Brigadier Jamwal, and reached the outskirts of Srinagar airport, where they were stopped by 1st Sikhs, under Dewan Ranjit Rai, who had landed hours before, on the same day, 27th of October.

If you do not know your facts, don't post.

Indians "trained" the "Afghan National Army" which surrendered to the Taliban in less than a week despite being armed and larger in numbers.

The US trained - then supported actively in the field - the ARVN, the army of South Vietnam, and both were defeated. Your ignorance becomes evident with every portion of every post of yours.

 

[Joe Shearer]

1948 the tribal militia most likely were out numbered by the Indians 30 to 1. They outnumbered the Pakistan "Army" but still couldn't move an inch as soon as they saw some resistance.

There was one battalion of the Indian Army outside Srinagar. Every man jack had to be flown in. The Pakistan Army was not in action officially; only its officers, on leave, were part of the so-called tribal raiders.

You talk of 'most like were out numbered by the Indians 30 to 1'. I am forced to ask if you know anything at all about this conflict. Are you aware that the British Indian Army was divided between Pakistan and India, or are you aware of the ratio of the division?

As for moving an inch, you clearly don't know that Skardu was besieged and ultimately captured by the forces of the Gilgit Scouts combined with the state forces of the Mehtar of Chitral (at that time, Muzaffar ul Mulk) before the Indian Army was anywhere near, that Kargil was captured, that the Zoji La was defended by artillery pieces owned by the Chitral troops, and that Leh was besieged - all before the arrival of the Indian Army, except for the siege of Skardu, that lasted a long time.

Since some people are too lazy, or are handicapped in reading, Kargil was re-captured, Zoji La was attacked and carried by Stuart tanks, and Leh was relieved. Large portions of Poonch were also freed of the raiders, and their successor formations from the Pakistan Army.

If you don't know the facts, try to stay away from posting, even if doing that gives you a sudden rush of blood to various places. Jumping up and down and inflicting your amateur dramatics is not a grown up thing to do.

The Indians managed to teach cowardice to Afghans. Something even the brutal USSR oppression couldn't achieve.

They seem to have been none the worse for their experience, as your own armed forces serving personnel will inform you.

So go sh!t in the street in front of each other and spare us your nonsense.

That is not a tolerable thing to say, in any circumstances.

Pakistan can easily stir up the Golden Temple situation even,

Really?

What stops you?

Your innate modesty? Perhaps a shortage of gasoline and flour?

For the G20 summit in the disputed territory of Kashmir India was given certain guaranees from certain corners that all of a sudden the scum of the rapist Indian army will not be ambushed.

It is to be hoped that you did not sign those guaranees not to ambush whatever you thought right to call the Indian Army.

Incidentally, that is not acceptable language.

 

[Cheepek]

The information you sent is clearly incorrect.
For example, everyone in this forum knows that Pakistan did not attend. But in your profile, Pakistan attended this summit.
View attachment 931302


South Africa, Malaysia, Mongolia did not attend either, but your profile still highlighted them in red.

China has 40+ neighbors, but only India, Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and Indonesia. Five countries attended the US democracy summit.
Pakistan, Malaysia and other countries directly refused to attend the meeting. The Philippines attended the meeting, but Philippine President duterte directly criticized the human rights situation and pseudo democracy in the USA. Indonesia participated in the meeting but refused to speak at the meeting. On the same day that South Korea announced its participation in the summit, it announced its support for the Beijing Winter Olympics and cancelled trade negotiations with Taiwan officials.
In fact, the only neighbors who are really hostile to us are India and Japan.

BTW: there are 260 countries in this world. The 111 participating countries you mentioned are not only many that did not actually participate, but the vast majority are small islands in the Pacific and small countries in the Caribbean.

The map is for invited participants, the link contains the list of countries and whether they attended or not. Most attended. Let's make it ~100.
100 head of states in 2021.

Next, a democracy summit can only invite democracies. Who hold elections and vote. Not dictators.

China should make a summit for dictators and let's see how many tinpot dictators turn up.

There are ~195 countries in the world, not 260. Each country, big or small has 1 vote at the UN.

China has NO friends in the world apart from Pakistan and North Korea. All other countries just apply "wait and watch" approach, none of them is even remotely interested in a LOAN SHARK which resembles more of a shitty Middle Kingdom.

These countries mostly hedge their bets in their own interests. To extract from more from the US. And it's because of US's & west's own myopic policies, nothing due to China.
Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia et al all hate China to the core but practice strategic autonomy so as to hedge. Smart move, smart countries.

Each one of them knows China has nothing much to offer except once in a life time opportunity to let their countries left high and dry by the blood sucking Chinese.

Your delusions of grandeur are best suited to your friends in Pakistan, you can't fool anyone else.

 

[delta2]

There was no Indian Army while the tribals marched up to Muzaffarabad by the 22nd of October, and then on to Baramula, where they looted, killed and raped for the interval needed for Hari Singh to sign his accession to India. Only very weak elements of the State Forces stood between them and Srinagar.

They then marched towards Srinagar, having found the correct way, and killed the NC activist, Sherwani, whose name is still remembered in Baramula. They met resistance from the State forces, killed the commander, Brigadier Jamwal, and reached the outskirts of Srinagar airport, where they were stopped by 1st Sikhs, under Dewan Ranjit Rai, who had landed hours before, on the same day, 27th of October.

If you do not know your facts, don't post.


The US trained - then supported actively in the field - the ARVN, the army of South Vietnam, and both were defeated. Your ignorance becomes evident with every portion of every post of yours.

So you admit that you managed to teach the Afghans the trademarked Indian cowardice like none has been able to.

The USA was India's access to oxygen in Afghanistan. Without the American signals to Pakistan there will be no Indian presence ind Afghanistan.

Remember all those consulates you built in Afghanistan? What happened to them?

Vietnam was a cleae defeat for the USA.

They waged that war based on a lie and the American troops returning home were hated and used to be spat at. There was such a negative social backlash towards the returning soldiers that they had to make their own little clubs and support groups. That is how the infamous Hells Angels were born, a bunch of Vietnam vets coming together.

 

[delta2]

There was one battalion of the Indian Army outside Srinagar. Every man jack had to be flown in. The Pakistan Army was not in action officially; only its officers, on leave, were part of the so-called tribal raiders.

You talk of 'most like were out numbered by the Indians 30 to 1'. I am forced to ask if you know anything at all about this conflict. Are you aware that the British Indian Army was divided between Pakistan and India, or are you aware of the ratio of the division?

As for moving an inch, you clearly don't know that Skardu was besieged and ultimately captured by the forces of the Gilgit Scouts combined with the state forces of the Mehtar of Chitral (at that time, Muzaffar ul Mulk) before the Indian Army was anywhere near, that Kargil was captured, that the Zoji La was defended by artillery pieces owned by the Chitral troops, and that Leh was besieged - all before the arrival of the Indian Army, except for the siege of Skardu, that lasted a long time.

Since some people are too lazy, or are handicapped in reading, Kargil was re-captured, Zoji La was attacked and carried by Stuart tanks, and Leh was relieved. Large portions of Poonch were also freed of the raiders, and their successor formations from the Pakistan Army.

If you don't know the facts, try to stay away from posting, even if doing that gives you a sudden rush of blood to various places. Jumping up and down and inflicting your amateur dramatics is not a grown up thing to do.


They seem to have been none the worse for their experience, as your own armed forces serving personnel will inform you.


That is not a tolerable thing to say, in any circumstances.


Really?

What stops you?

Your innate modesty? Perhaps a shortage of gasoline and flour?


It is to be hoped that you did not sign those guaranees not to ambush whatever you thought right to call the Indian Army.

Incidentally, that is not acceptable language.

History versus the mythical, made up Indian narrative.

Here is what actually happened:

Pakistan whipped you in all previous conflicts despite being out numbered and out gunned, fought you to a stand still ending up in territory exchange.

In 1948 you got whipped by lightly armed tribals.

In 1965 you got beaten so bad your leader had a heart attack.

In 1971 you had to rely on our brothers backstabbing us in Bangladesh but you still got whipped on the western border.

In 1988 your PM literqlly peed in his pants when Zia told him he would turn the Indian sub-continent into a radioactive nuclear waste land if Indian troops weren't moved back.

In 2002 thousands of your troops died in accidents and you quietly moved back after Musharraf gave orders to select and bomb targets in all major Indian cities.

Recently you suffered an unspeakable defeat in Afghanistan where the USA left you hanging dry screaming, "But Pak is sending Taliban stop them".

Most recently you lost two jets to PAF and shot down your own helicopters in occupied Kashmir after your air force panicked due to Pak jamming.

Your only hope for continued American investment is India's potential role in the upcoming war against China.

Laddakh has shown you will be abandoned and used as canon fodder in order against the PLA.

Before you open your mouth, remember that the USA looks at China as a peer competitor. You pose no threat to China, your navy is target practice for the PLAN.

 

[delta2]

The map is for invited participants, the link contains the list of countries and whether they attended or not. Most attended. Let's make it ~100.
100 head of states in 2021.

Next, a democracy summit can only invite democracies. Who hold elections and vote. Not dictators.

China should make a summit for dictators and let's see how many tinpot dictators turn up.

There are ~195 countries in the world, not 260. Each country, big or small has 1 vote at the UN.

China has NO friends in the world apart from Pakistan and North Korea. All other countries just apply "wait and watch" approach, none of them is even remotely interested in a LOAN SHARK which resembles more of a shitty Middle Kingdom.

These countries mostly hedge their bets in their own interests. To extract from more from the US. And it's because of US's & west's own myopic policies, nothing due to China.
Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia et al all hate China to the core but practice strategic autonomy so as to hedge. Smart move, smart countries.

Each one of them knows China has nothing much to offer except once in a life time opportunity to let their countries left high and dry by the blood sucking Chinese.

Your delusions of grandeur are best suited to your friends in Pakistan, you can't fool anyone else.

Even the USA and France aren't friends lol. It is all about interst. The French got extremely angry after the Australians gave them the middle finger and opted to buy submarines from the USA.

There are no friends in international politics. Only interests and how they align or cause friction with other intersts.

The map is for invited participants, the link contains the list of countries and whether they attended or not. Most attended. Let's make it ~100.
100 head of states in 2021.

Next, a democracy summit can only invite democracies. Who hold elections and vote. Not dictators.

China should make a summit for dictators and let's see how many tinpot dictators turn up.

There are ~195 countries in the world, not 260. Each country, big or small has 1 vote at the UN.

China has NO friends in the world apart from Pakistan and North Korea. All other countries just apply "wait and watch" approach, none of them is even remotely interested in a LOAN SHARK which resembles more of a shitty Middle Kingdom.

These countries mostly hedge their bets in their own interests. To extract from more from the US. And it's because of US's & west's own myopic policies, nothing due to China.
Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia et al all hate China to the core but practice strategic autonomy so as to hedge. Smart move, smart countries.

Each one of them knows China has nothing much to offer except once in a life time opportunity to let their countries left high and dry by the blood sucking Chinese.

Your delusions of grandeur are best suited to your friends in Pakistan, you can't fool anyone else.

The USA waged war against the so called AlQaeda in Afghanistan, but at the same time they were arming and giving money and training to the same AlQaeda in Syria.

In one scenario you would call them enemies but in the second you'd call them friends?

 

[Cheepek]

Even the USA and France aren't friends lol. It is all about interst. The French got extremely angry after the Australians gave them the middle finger and opted to buy submarines from the USA.

There are no friends in international politics. Only interests and how they align or cause friction with other intersts.


The USA waged war against the so called AlQaeda in Afghanistan, but at the same time they were arming and giving money and training to the same AlQaeda in Syria.

In one scenario you would call them enemies but in the second you'd call them friends?

Disagreements need not be disputes, keep your conspiracy hat elsewhere.

 

[Joe Shearer]

So you admit that you managed to teach the Afghans the trademarked Indian cowardice like none has been able to.

The USA was India's access to oxygen in Afghanistan. Without the American signals to Pakistan there will be no Indian presence ind Afghanistan.

Try not to babble. Once you can put together a coherent thought, it will be the right time to post. Not before.

Remember all those consulates you built in Afghanistan? What happened to them?

There were five, and the Afghan government has been pressing India to return, even though India does not recognise that government.

Vietnam was a cleae defeat for the USA.

They waged that war based on a lie and the American troops returning home were hated and used to be spat at. There was such a negative social backlash towards the returning soldiers that they had to make their own little clubs and support groups. That is how the infamous Hells Angels were born, a bunch of Vietnam vets coming together.

It may be a good idea for you to concentrate on Pakistani history, since you seem to have greater familiarity with US history.

Pakistan whipped you in all previous conflicts despite being out numbered and out gunned, fought you to a stand still ending up in territory exchange.

Not according to your generals and air marshals. Read them first. Start with a non-military person, Tariq Ali, go on to Mahmud Ahmad (the book is difficult to get, but a member of this forum has two copies, one gifted to him by the general, the other purchased from a second-hand book seller), then read Z. A. Khan.

Since you are so stridently uninformed, except for spouting the usual fanboy bilge, it will be useful for the sanity of other Pakistani readers if you learn a little bit about the wars that Pakistan fought.

 

[Joe Shearer]

In 1948 you got whipped by lightly armed tribals.

Again, read first. The tribals were scattered in short order, the resistance was mainly from the people of so-called Azad Kashmir, reinforced by the Pakistan Army that openly entered the war in May 1948. The Gilgit Scouts retreated to the Skardu part of Baltistan, and to Gilgit, and it was late in 1971 that further Indian gains in Baltistan were made (look up Turtuk).

Apart from these bragging claims, do you have any knowledge, even the slightest knowledge about what happened?

In 1965 you got beaten so bad your leader had a heart attack.

LOL. Yes, indeed, with your tanks littered all over Patton Nagar.

In 1971 you had to rely on our brothers backstabbing us in Bangladesh but you still got whipped on the western border.

Yeah, right. That was Longowal, a whole division made into cheese crackers by four or five Hunters and a platoon of infantry. You can read Z. A. Khan about that, too.

In 1988 your PM literqlly peed in his pants when Zia told him he would turn the Indian sub-continent into a radioactive nuclear waste land if Indian troops weren't moved back.

Were you doing laundry then? You must have a lot of work now, in Pakistan itself.

Zia never talked about anything to anyone in 1988, other than in the dreams of fanboys.

 

[Joe Shearer]

In 2002 thousands of your troops died in accidents and you quietly moved back after Musharraf gave orders to select and bomb targets in all major Indian cities.

LOL. Each and every one of the so-called freedom fighters was thrown out, with one exception. Musharraf gave no orders for anything, as his Prime Minister was sitting and petitioning the Americans, in Washington, to retrieve his country from the consequences of Musharraf's stupidity. Read Bruce Riedel.

Recently you suffered an unspeakable defeat in Afghanistan where the USA left you hanging dry screaming, "But Pak is sending Taliban stop them".

Yeah, right.

Those Taliban leaders are asking India to return. Afghans trained in India have been admitted into the Afghan armed forces by the Taliban on their return. None, as far as anybody knows, from Pakistan.

Most recently you lost two jets to PAF and shot down your own helicopters in occupied Kashmir after your air force panicked due to Pak jamming.

One MiG 21, one helicopter, and already this is a legend of military history for Pakistan. Yes, the same Pakistan whose PAF refused battle in 2002 due to lack of spares and fuel.

I am glad that you take consolation from such trivial incidents, and in bragging about the same tea that is sent to Pakistan via Dubai from India.

Your only hope for continued American investment is India's potential role in the upcoming war against China.

Not according to the figures.

Once you leave school, and learn a bit about economics, you will learn that Indian trade is booming, Indian fe reserves are at an all-time high, and while a neighbouring nation is unable to import food, and is closing factories due to a shortage of raw materials and parts to use in them, we have the fifth largest economy in the world by GDP.

Even Apple has shifted out of China into India.