Big Helmand offensive in the offing

[Awesome]

American Operations are smaller in nature and not all encompassing, judging from Khanjar and Cobra's Anger.

From the way the media reported Cobra's anger, it was more of a deployment of new aircraft into combat for example the Osprey.

The fight in Nowzad continues, and hopefully this operation would do the trick. Although the goals of this operation like Khanjar and Cobra will not be clear until a few weeks down the lane.

This one is probably called Operation Moshtarak (Probably borrows from the Urdu word, Mushtarka - translated as "combined").

British troops gear up for major Afghan offensive - CNN.com

The U.S. Marines have also been cranking up plans for a major operation against the insurgency in Taliban-controlled Marjah, a town with 80,000 to 100,000 people, also in the Nad Ali district. That push is focused on a swath of territory considered the last major stronghold of the Taliban in Helmand province.

 

[karan.1970]

KB,

AT and TTP have no link practically, both have different objectives infact TTP is sister organisation of Al Qaeda and financed by them.

Mullah Omar invited TTP to fight with them against US and NATO forces but they refused , their objective is to destablise Pakistan and they follow the Al Qaeda distructive idealogy.

In my view, this logic is the crux of Pakistan's problem with TTP today. What defines a terrorist is not his ideology or goals, but his methodology or means. Goals are easily changed by circumstances but once a terrorist gets used to the easy methodology of violant blackmail, its a never ending road. You claim TTP as anti Pakistan and AT as pro pakistan. However go back 20 years, these lines of demarkations did not exist and the Taliban was the favourite child of Pakistan. A son sent forth to establish Pakistan's writ in Afghanistan. But once you got them used to the gun culture, they themselves started chosing their targets. And post Pakistan's help to USA in Afg, for some of them, that Pakistan became tha target. You may get lucky and wipe out TTP (though highly unlikely) but whats to say another splinter group of AT will not come back to pick up where TTP left off...

something to think about...

 

[Ahmad]

KB,

AT and TTP have no link practically, both have different objectives infact TTP is sister organisation of Al Qaeda and financed by them.

Mullah Omar invited TTP to fight with them against US and NATO forces but they refused , their objective is to destablise Pakistan and they follow the Al Qaeda distructive idealogy.

i think they have something in common. they both are destroying their own countires and killing their own people.

 

[waraich66]

In my view, this logic is the crux of Pakistan's problem with TTP today. What defines a terrorist is not his ideology or goals, but his methodology or means. Goals are easily changed by circumstances but once a terrorist gets used to the easy methodology of violant blackmail, its a never ending road. You claim TTP as anti Pakistan and AT as pro pakistan. However go back 20 years, these lines of demarkations did not exist and the Taliban was the favourite child of Pakistan. A son sent forth to establish Pakistan's writ in Afghanistan. But once you got them used to the gun culture, they themselves started chosing their targets. And post Pakistan's help to USA in Afg, for some of them, that Pakistan became tha target. You may get lucky and wipe out TTP (though highly unlikely) but whats to say another splinter group of AT will not come back to pick up where TTP left off...

something to think about...

We Pakistani are against our government policies for support of ISAF but Islam dont allow to start war with Muslims or Muslim state at any condition.This is major issue which TTP dont understand because of their Salafi idealogy inforced by Al Qaeda .

If they stop attacking PA and do Jehad in Afghanistan or Kashmir we dont have any issue with them.

 

[Always Neutral]

We Pakistani are against our government policies for support of ISAF but Islam dont allow to start war with Muslims or Muslim state at any condition.This is major issue which TTP dont understand because of their Salafi idealogy inforced by Al Qaeda .

If they stop attacking PA and do Jehad in Afghanistan or Kashmir we dont have any issue with them.

A SELF GOAL,

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians including muslims in Afghanistan ?

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians including muslims in Kashmir ?

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians (Europeans) including ISAF in Afghanistan ?

Ur only problem with TTP is that they should not kill muslims of Pakistan!



What a fantastic philosophy you have and what poor light you show your understanding of Taliban brand of Islam ? With such a philosophy and some more supporters you will not only get more areas in Pakistan bombed, the world will not hesitate to call your areas rightly the epi-center of terrorism.

However, unfortunately the day Mr. H Mehsud Bad Taliban did a Playboy shoot with Mr Jordan (ex CIA fame) the Good taliban before he went and committed a suicide attack you and your fig leaf of cover about Good and Bad Taliban stood exposed.

Please go back to your masters and come back with a better theory and till than let the ISAF, ANA and PA do their jobs that is swatting all Talibanis with a hammer and sending them to paradise.

 

[Ahmad]

If they stop attacking PA and do Jehad in Afghanistan or Kashmir we dont have any issue with them.

or in other words: if they stop destroying pakistan and instead destroy afghanistan then you wont have any issues with them.

 

[waraich66]

A SELF GOAL,

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians including muslims in Afghanistan ?

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians including muslims in Kashmir ?

So its ISLAMIC to kill civillians (Europeans) including ISAF in Afghanistan ?

Ur only problem with TTP is that they should not kill muslims of Pakistan!



What a fantastic philosophy you have and what poor light you show your understanding of Taliban brand of Islam ? With such a philosophy and some more supporters you will not only get more areas in Pakistan bombed, the world will not hesitate to call your areas rightly the epi-center of terrorism.

However, unfortunately the day Mr. H Mehsud Bad Taliban did a Playboy shoot with Mr Jordan (ex CIA fame) the Good taliban before he went and committed a suicide attack you and your fig leaf of cover about Good and Bad Taliban stood exposed.

Please go back to your masters and come back with a better theory and till than let the ISAF, ANA and PA do their jobs that is swatting all Talibanis with a hammer and sending them to paradise.

Try to understand Jehad is valid when Muslim country attacked or occupied .

If you have doubt please consult with any Mufti.

 

[waraich66]

or in other words: if they stop destroying pakistan and instead destroy afghanistan then you wont have any issues with them.

Afghanistan is under US occupation or not?

 

[Ahmad]

Afghanistan is under US occupation or not?

What is your problem as an outsider? People are thirsty for peace, they dont care about occupation or taliban. they simply want peace, a peice of bread, an old cloth and somewhere to live even if it is a tent. It is quite easy to write a few things on the internet in a bright room, perhaps coffee/tea and dried fruit beside it. but you dont understand what is happening to the people of Afghanistan. They are getting killed everyday, they dont have food, they dont have school, the taliban burn their schools, they behead teachers infront of the children, suicide bombings, beheadings. tell me if Afghanistan was free even a single day for the last 30 years? and why should we wish for it now? werent the taliban the stooges of foreigners? And there are people like you who cheer for insecurity and violance.

 

[karan.1970]

We Pakistani are against our government policies for support of ISAF but Islam dont allow to start war with Muslims or Muslim state at any condition.This is major issue which TTP dont understand because of their Salafi idealogy inforced by Al Qaeda .

If they stop attacking PA and do Jehad in Afghanistan or Kashmir we dont have any issue with them.

I rest my case..

btw muslims attacking muslims

1. Iran Iraq??
2. Afghanistan (pre ISAF)
.....


TRY NOT TO GET RELIGION INTO EVERY THING...

 

[Awesome]

Baseless comment...

 

[Parashuram1]

We Pakistani are against our government policies for support of ISAF but Islam dont allow to start war with Muslims or Muslim state at any condition.

Friend, this is a very short-sighted statement that you have made here. Today, it is really better for the countries to separate religion from the State affairs since the era of small villages run by religious leaders is gone. Countries are larger with large populations and each one has a different opinion.

Technically speaking, there are a lot of things that have gone "un-Islamic" in Islamic countries. The Iraq-Iran war, the Morocco-Iran split, the Bahrain-Iran chill, the UAE-Iran territorial disputes, etc.

Also it is extremely unethical of you to say that you don't have problems as long as these terrorists pose a threat to your neighbourhood.

The terrorists here have gone overboard killing innocent civilians not only in Afghanistan and India, but now are killing your own people. And by your logic, your armed forces that happens to be Muslim by faith is also striking these terrorists hard, who are also born Muslims.

Therefore, your statement of a strict national code based on religion is not really justified even if you think it to be right. This is infact a perfect opportunity to clear all doubts with ISAF and other contributing countries and form a trustworthy alliance to defeat these terrorists rather than re-directing them to some other country. Pakistan would be equally guilty if it re-directs terrorism on other countries as it would be if it ever helped these militant.

I am sure that as a patriot, you would best wish these low-life barbarians wiped for good.

 

[Parashuram1]

Self Delete

 

[waraich66]

I rest my case..

btw muslims attacking muslims

1. Iran Iraq??
2. Afghanistan (pre ISAF)
.....


TRY NOT TO GET RELIGION INTO EVERY THING...

Try to understand Islam is our life , can fish live without water?

 

[waraich66]

What is your problem as an outsider? People are thirsty for peace, they dont care about occupation or taliban. they simply want peace, a peice of bread, an old cloth and somewhere to live even if it is a tent. It is quite easy to write a few things on the internet in a bright room, perhaps coffee/tea and dried fruit beside it. but you dont understand what is happening to the people of Afghanistan. They are getting killed everyday, they dont have food, they dont have school, the taliban burn their schools, they behead teachers infront of the children, suicide bombings, beheadings. tell me if Afghanistan was free even a single day for the last 30 years? and why should we wish for it now? werent the taliban the stooges of foreigners? And there are people like you who cheer for insecurity and violance.

I think every Afghan killed due to ISAF occupation is my real brother , I am not out sider , Please read little about Muslim Ummah concept.