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Biden says "PAKISTAN ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRIES" adds bit about NUKES too

They were part of the problem, it was a self fulfilling prophecy, you have disloyal, treacherous people like them creating endless fassad, how would you govern or move forward

They were part of the problem that bought us to this point and now they are replaced by other wali, dawars and pashteens it's the same endless shit

Akbar Bugti was pro Army and was brought in by Bhutto to become lumber 1 leader of Balochistan.

Then same army off’d him and we all know what happened with Shazia Khalid and the subsequent insurgency that took place.
 
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Yeah, true China has given many concessions to Pakistan. I respect that.

China gets Gwadar port, that's a such strategic advantage for them though.
No, Iran will give them Bandar Abbas, minus the domestic squabbling, inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy and politicians and the ever present danger of Pakistanis selling them down the river with the Americans.

Nawaz sharif has better chances of being killed sooner, Allahu Alim.
Of fatty liver from excessive amount of haraam khori all his life...
 
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i have a feeling pakistan has ICBMs, and subs with cruise missiles upto 1000 kms is quite a punch
The issue is not what we have, but the compromised leadership under Bajwa… after he retires he should be banned from travelling abroad 10 years.. after being court martialled and punished..
Current leadership are sold out, any weapons we have will not be used when needed.
It is most probably true that Bajwa legs were shaking during 2019 feb episode.
Am sure it was IK and PAF chief who made the decisions to retaliate and he felt compelled to support them..
 
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No, Iran will give them Bandar Abbas, minus the domestic squabbling, inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy and politicians and the ever present danger of Pakistanis selling them down the river with the Americans.


Of fatty liver from excessive amount of haraam khori all his life...
Sorry but China has accepted working with Pakistan over Iran.
 
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He is right. A failed state with nukes is dangerous.


A Treason Army a corrupt judiciary and a corrupt Parliamentary system.
He basically read Pakistan the riot act. It should be a wake up call if one were ever needed, in how Pakistan is perceived, and all the implications that carries. This should be seen as an opportunity to fundamentally transform the nation.

A rebuttal or even a rebranding (as proposed during Musharraf’s time) won’t be enough. Too much has been hollowed out. Real structural reforms build up political and economic reforms (such as property tax) are the only way to build cohesion and the sovereignty to rebuild standing in the world.

A good start can be to at least announce a fixed date for elections that let the people choose who they want to lead them, and end the uncertainty.

But before that, there needs to be a coming to a consensus among all political parties of the rules of the roads towards the national interests. Internal squabbling has its own opportunity costs. The world is looking like it’s about to go into a deep recession, and the sooner reforms are done, the sooner people can get back to refocusing on national interests.

There also needs to be a clearing of the incompetent and unproductive politicians and bureaucrats. In a sense the politicians need to be audited, have their property confiscated in proportion to what they stole from the country and given a “severance package” so they can exit politics. The nation can not bear anymore “dead weight”. With the floods, now is a good time to formulate a plan to redistribute the land from convicted elites that put their wealth in domestic properties.
 
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Akbar Bugti was pro Army and was brought in by Bhutto to become lumber 1 leader of Balochistan.

Then same army off’d him and we all know what happened with Shazia Khalid and the subsequent insurgency that took place.
If they wanted to off him, all it would have taken is one or two surgical strikes from standoff distances, it was easy and well within the reach of the military. The army put an effort to get him to negotiate. It did not work out and the army lost 5 of their very own inside the cave while negotiating with the Sardar sahib.

He and his band were cornered after fighting the state. The same state/country that brought him into the fold countless times. Bugti sahib lived like a king in a country where his system of tribalism has hurt the poor serfs the most. When he took up the gun, he himself chose the path that led to his demise. Why should he be allowed to pick up a gun against the state and treated as a hero when others like MQM, TTP etc. were put down for doing the very same? You either go benevolent with all or treat them the same.

Realize the facts before blindly getting sucked into this "bash army" bandwagon. I was in Quetta when Bhutto sahib was running the country. A lot of space was given to political negotiations but when one side is insisting on "separatism", then the state has no choice but to deal with it and that may require military power along with talks.
 
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You just described rich vs poor of India. Pakistan is different case. Pakistan politics is very complex and tuned for survival. Even some generals paid the price as well. No one is safe in this generation Intel war concerning Pakistan politics but I don’t expect emotional imranistan to understand- at least not right now.
 
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If they wanted to off him, all it would have taken is one or two surgical strikes from standoff distances, it was easy and well within the reach of the military. The army put an effort to get him to negotiate. It did not work out and the army lost 5 of their very own inside the cave while negotiating with the Sardar sahib.

He and his band were cornered after fighting the state. The same state/country that brought him into the fold countless times. Bugti sahib lived like a king in a country where his system of tribalism has hurt the poor serfs the most. When he took up the gun, he himself chose the path that led to his demise. Why should he be allowed to pick up a gun against the state and treated as a hero when others like MQM, TTP etc. were put down for doing the very same? You either go benevolent with all or treat them the same.

Realize the facts before blindly getting sucked into this "bash army" bandwagon. I was in Quetta when Bhutto sahib was running the country. A lot of space was given to political negotiations but when one side is insisting on "separatism", then the state has no choice but to deal with it and that may require military power along with talks.

First off, Pakistan Army and PPP needed Akbar Bugti to take out NAP, which was led by Ataullah Mengal at the time. The aftermath of 1971 had traumatized the psyche of the institutions the time that any concessions for greater autonomy or control of resources was met with harsh punitive measures.

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto sacked Balochistan's provincial government and threw Ataullah Mengal in jail. And tried to get a supreme court order to ban NAP (sounds familiar with the disqualification and foreign funding cases on Imran Khan and PTI 😉)

Then Akbar Bugti was installed and he was given everything despite being a brutal Sardar. The problem with Pakistan Army is that it never learns from its previous mistakes and always thinks its above everyone else, its why they call civilians bloody civilians.

Shazia Khalid's story is very similar to the PTI people who were kidnapped by agencies and Shabaaz Gill. Agencies threw his driver, his wife, and a 10 MONTH OLD BABY in there. Baloch women were also complaining about their babies also being thrown in jails. Everyone used to call it Indian propaganda, but the parallels are way too similar lmfaoo.

Akbar Bugti said "Everyone is after our national wealth....we don't get anything out of it, it is ours". Do you also know who raised the same concerns? The people in the 60s did where there was a small rebellion over Sui Gas. The same story from the 60s was repeated in 2005, but was amplified by army's defense of Shazia Khalid's rape.

Akbar Bugti also said "Musharraf promised to hit us in such a way that we will not know what hit us. In one sense, it is quick death that he is promising us." Do you know who else is saying this and actually did it? Rana Sanaullah right now and when innocent women and children were tear gassed on May 25th.

5G Papa John's warriors, including myself, called all of this Indian propaganda but now the truth and reality of Pakistan was revealed and keeps being revealed. Now same people are saying India is trying to play a hand in PTI "propaganda" against army LOLL.
 
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Short term personal benefits outweight national interest. Pakistan has no national identity. It's all about working for individual interest.

@Arsalan345 and Bajwa are good example. :enjoy:
XI the puppet of CCP hahaha. Is it xi or she? hahaha, Communist be like we will make new maps etc haha. Go watch cartoon small communists.

@Arsalan345

This is a good description of you.
Do you mean a description of XI or she? haha, have you seen his face? It's like a traitor ready to be hanged by CCP hahaha.
 
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XI the puppet of CCP hahaha. Is it xi or she? hahaha, Communist be like we will make new maps etc haha. Go watch cartoon small communists.


Do you mean a description of XI or she? haha, have you seen his face? It's like a traitor ready to be hanged by CCP hahaha.
LOL.. The lapdog speaks. You shall be hanged. Typical traitor who prefer personal benefit than pledge loyalty to Pakistan. Keep promoting the USA who drone strike Pakistan, killing innocent Pakistanis , infringe their sovereignty . The Uncle Satan who keep blocking the progression of Pakistan but yet you sell your soul to support the evil. Poor thing of you. :enjoy:



U.S. Seeks To Put Pakistan On Global Terror List​

 
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LOL.. The lapdog speaks. You shall be hanged. Typical traitor who prefer personal benefit than pledge loyalty to Pakistan. Keep promoting the USA who drone strike Pakistan, killing innocent Pakistanis , infringe their sovereignty . The Uncle Satan who keep blocking the progression of Pakistan but yet you sell your soul to support the evil. Poor thing of you. :enjoy:



U.S. Seeks To Put Pakistan On Global Terror List​

Saying by a slave of a puppet dog like CCP haha . Xi is a girl hahaha. Everyday these communist want to attack Taiwan but go to their holes hahaha.

 
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