Bhutan, Nepal, Japan, Australia... India's China policy in view now?

[Cyberian]

What a joke of an article. At least the author (and his fans) should first of all check what is the size of India-China bilateral trade in comparison to India-Japan and India-Australia bilateral trade.

Some people just don't have anything better to do other than write fairy tales such as: Legends of India: The Container of China.

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what were americans and british doing in south asia during 1971 war ???

soviets were called in only after u realized that us and british military intervention was necessary against india as u guys were losing

What happened to the Soviet Union by the way. We don't hear much about them after their 1971 mistake.

 

[dray]

today's india is in reality more powerful, if not equal to, than china, at least, militarily. economically india is weaker than china, everyone knows it but militarily india is stronger. i believe that if indian border guards open fire at chinese when they try to dismantle border posts, chinese won't retaliate. once indian border posts open fire, border problem will be solved and the indian people should encourage the border guards to open fire. once that is done, chinese will start respecting indian border posts.

We have enough to counter all our probable threats, and that's enough. As for attacking other countries first, we shouldn't do that, that doesn't fit well with our global image.

 

[Viper0011.]

Answers for your doubts is still in your post itself .If Pakistan is that much strong than Japan or Australia then how can you ignore the caliber India that cut our neighbours in to half?
Food for thoughts dude..

You have to understand the war fighting mentality within the Australians, Japs or the Pakistanis here. Pakistani military, for better or worse has always been in combat (majority of their history) against someone, whether it be India, Russia, Talibans or through the UN. The military is battle hardened to its core.

Add the religious flavor (both in Israel and Pakistan's case and their existence). The fear and the threat factor is gone. Now perceive Australia and Japan in this situation. Do you think they will ever go against the Chinese (irrespective of their relations with India)??? Hell No!!! If the US lead a war then they'll participate it but even that for a while. Not long term and definitely not when there are thousands of body bags coming home.

Next, the "cut in two" and "what could we do" stuff, is a pre 1998 conversation. In the current scenario, war between India and Pakistan will mean one thing and one thing only, 75% destruction of Pakistan and about 30-40% of India (Most industrial and economic related geography) and sadly, over 200 million people will parish.
So PLEASE, change your mentality with time. Things have changed since 1998 and a conflict in this region will become a nuclear flashpoint between India and Pakistan. China will in fact benefit from it. Next, in a conflict with China, unless the Chinese did something to involve the US, I don't think the world powers will jump in directly as it would start the WWIII. At this point, I don't think anyone in the world is in favor of a WWIII.
What would be nice is if this "grandiosity" of military power can be turned into a "Economic Competition". That way, you are still winning against other with economy based alliances. Everyone benefits, people get a better lifestyle, markets become more competitive and no one get hurt !

 

[SrNair]

You have to understand the war fighting mentality within the Australians, Japs or the Pakistanis here. Pakistani military, for better or worse has always been in combat (majority of their history) against someone, whether it be India, Russia, Talibans or through the UN. The military is battle hardened to its core.

Add the religious flavor (both in Israel and Pakistan's case and their existence). The fear and the threat factor is gone. Now perceive Australia and Japan in this situation. Do you think they will ever go against the Chinese (irrespective of their relations with India)??? Hell No!!! If the US lead a war then they'll participate it but even that for a while. Not long term and definitely not when there are thousands of body bags coming home.

Next, the "cut in two" and "what could we do" stuff, is a pre 1998 conversation. In the current scenario, war between India and Pakistan will mean one thing and one thing only, 75% destruction of Pakistan and about 30-40% of India (Most industrial and economic related geography) and sadly, over 200 million people will parish.
So PLEASE, change your mentality with time. Things have changed since 1998 and a conflict in this region will become a nuclear flashpoint between India and Pakistan. China will in fact benefit from it. Next, in a conflict with China, unless the Chinese did something to involve the US, I don't think the world powers will jump in directly as it would start the WWIII. At this point, I don't think anyone in the world is in favor of a WWIII.
What would be nice is if this "grandiosity" of military power can be turned into a "Economic Competition". That way, you are still winning against other with economy based alliances. Everyone benefits, people get a better lifestyle, markets become more competitive and no one get hurt !

I dont think so , Our forces are also enough battle hardened through counter insurgency .Militants of best category in J&K,average in NE area.

About nuclear threat.I might agree with you if the case was before 2005.Now we have a full fledged BMD program.Unless you have an effective MIRV I dont think your nation can counter our ABM system.So your current math of 30%-40% would again reduce to below 10%.Then your only one and effective weapons is your CM.We already began hectic R&D effort to counter it .Our latest version of Akash missile is for that.
But we have an INS Arihant and its following nuke submarines .One Arihant class can carry 12 K15 or 4 K4
with MIRV .That is enough for levelling more than 90% of Pakistan.

I am not a warmonger or not intent to boasting.
We also like peace.For that peace you need large economy ,
that is why we show patience even if there is a lot of provocation from Pakistan including 26/11.
Once you got a huge economy and deeprooting influence around the world with that economy.We can maintain peace without any bloodshed.

War is a last option.And we dont like that choice .

 

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^^ some interesting stories here.

 

[Viper0011.]

I dont think so , Our forces are also enough battle hardened through counter insurgency .Militants of best category in J&K,average in NE area.

About nuclear threat.I might agree with you if the case was before 2005.Now we have a full fledged BMD program.Unless you have an effective MIRV I dont think your nation can counter our ABM system.

That is enough for levelling more than 90% of Pakistan. I am not a warmonger or not intent to boasting. We also like peace. War is a last option.And we dont like that choice .

I don't think you read my post very well. Like your own countrymen high under the influence of the military buying spree when over 400 million of people in India don't have proper bedding to sleep on, you also managed to act like the majority of the rest on here.

If you "re-read" my post, the comparison wasn't with India. It was essentially with India's alliance with Australia, Japanese and others. And the OP was using the terms similar to what I used that Pakistani forces, although less modern than Japan and Australia's tech, are MORE professional and battle proven enemy than both combined due to history.

You still don't have ANY real fact based argument to that. But you managed to just come back with irrational bull crap to prove something that I don't understand and neither do other readers (unless they are from India and want to hear Indian supremacy without a reason).


In ONE sentence you threatened to level 90% of the Pakistan and in the VERY next sentence you said you are not a war monger and you want peace. People wanting peace don't use the Nuclear terms and "our stuff is enough to level 90% of Pakistan" and all.

Last but not least, my country is represented my flags. Its stupid to call others Pakistani if their post doesn't agree with your propaganda. I hear the same bull crap from the Pakistani side too. Nothing new.
But, you referred to "my country" more than a few times. I don't like to sound grandiose and all.....the day you guys EVER mess with the US military, that may be the last time you'll see both your AC's floating and half the mighty SU-30's flying and THAT's the reality about my country!!!

 

[acid rain]

I don't think you read my post very well. Like your own countrymen high under the influence of the military buying spree when over 400 million of people in India don't have proper bedding to sleep on, you also managed to act like the majority of the rest on here.

If you "re-read" my post, the comparison wasn't with India. It was essentially with India's alliance with Australia, Japanese and others. And the OP was using the terms similar to what I used that Pakistani forces, although less modern than Japan and Australia's tech, are MORE professional and battle proven enemy than both combined due to history.

You still don't have ANY real fact based argument to that. But you managed to just come back with irrational bull crap to prove something that I don't understand and neither do other readers (unless they are from India and want to hear Indian supremacy without a reason).


In ONE sentence you threatened to level 90% of the Pakistan and in the VERY next sentence you said you are not a war monger and you want peace. People wanting peace don't use the Nuclear terms and "our stuff is enough to level 90% of Pakistan" and all.

Last but not least, my country is represented my flags. Its stupid to call others Pakistani if their post doesn't agree with your propaganda. I hear the same bull crap from the Pakistani side too. Nothing new.
But, you referred to "my country" more than a few times. I don't like to sound grandiose and all.....the day you guys EVER mess with the US military, that may be the last time you'll see both your AC's floating and half the mighty SU-30's flying and THAT's the reality about my country!!!

lol, the "real" do not threaten India, the fake one's do. Did he mention anything about the US here? so cut the bullshit.

Back to "your" mighty Pakistani army and nukes....this alliance if one would call it is a geopolitical move thats in the making from the last five years or so. Admittedly, its against China out of compulsion owing to China's aggressive moves in the SCS, its weird moves at the LAC, its string of pearls and its ongoing tensions with Japan regarding the no fly zone over the diavu? island and its frequent run ins with all the navies surrounding the SCS also including the USN and the JMDSF plus its run ins with Indian border guards in India's north. But for known reasons such union will be denied by both India and Australia. Aussies are an important component of the US's pivot to the East and they are heavily aligning themselves with India too.

The partners here - namely the US, Japan and Australia are very serious about it, while India is treating it as a business and defense modernizing opportunity. This is mainly because India has other interests with China both in SCO and in BRICS and both are at advance stages.

What the US, Japan and Australia feel is their security association is incomplete without the presence of India in the grouping, while we arent committing to it wholeheartedly owing to China assuring us that it wants to settle all disputes with us on a bilateral level. Until that happens, we will keep all options open.

There is nothing for Pakistan to do other than keep fuelling its jihadis and bother about Afghanistan and its own internal eff up.

 

[Viper0011.]

The partners here - namely the US, Japan and Australia are very serious about it, while India is treating it as a business and defense modernizing opportunity.
What the US, Japan and Australia feel is their security association is incomplete without the presence of India in the grouping

Oh the grandiosity about India.
Do you think that you are the ONLY ones with brain in your body? The rest of the countries, specifically, the US has lost its brain power for some reason? A country that has been ruling the world and playing strategy, literally has lost it and "you, the mighty India" are using us as a business opportunity???? Here's the reality, sorry, it is ABOUT to bite:

1) We and others look at India as a market, someone who'll buy our weapons and will modernize its military. Resulting in us (The Americans, the Australians and others) , will use you as a "cheaper and readily available" rent a military force to be used for OUR purposes. Call this the NEXT phase of job outsourcing, we are outsourcing military jobs to you in this case, while we still rule the world.
So, yea, this is the reality, you guys buy our weapons and give us some of the $$ back even with the TOT or not. Next, you guys be used for military issues. You want to show your little macho muscles with your small 600 jet force, we have issues for you where using you is much cheaper than moving a CBG 1000 miles away (just like the IT jobs situation). And it'll give your military a chance to show some muscles and get paid.

2) The US and Japan and Australia don't feel shi*t. They want to sell you stuff and that's the bottom line. The US at WILL can literally go into any country and do what its supposed to do. When it comes to a military solution, we know how to manage it, this is 2014. A FULL Century since the WWI. So a hundred years of military conflicts and strategy.

Remember, the love affair started with India having a billion people. It'll remain the case till your economy is saturated. Then you'll become like Germany, we'll go say hi and all probably have Naval facilities. But it won't be a "strategic relationship" beyond interests. At the end, we would we've made the money, you got paid for your military services and now you are a "friendly" semi modern country.

The American think tanks (irrespective of what you read in the media), ALREADY know that under ANY situation, India is NOT to be trusted. There is NO WAY you guys will get into a fight that was originally started between the US and the Chinese. You'll chicken out.

The US Military always has and always will ensure the safety and the security of its people and its national interests. It never has and will never need "partners" to go into a direct conflict. As a part of the NATO and other agreements, we'll always honor it.

But to protect our interests, we go alone as needed and don't put others in charge of our interests. Always remember this post next time you write these grandiose posts like "the Americans don't think our security is complete until India joins the group", WTF. Our donated jobs and money is barking at us lol

 

[SrNair]

I don't think you read my post very well. Like your own countrymen high under the influence of the military buying spree when over 400 million of people in India don't have proper bedding to sleep on, you also managed to act like the majority of the rest on here.

If you "re-read" my post, the comparison wasn't with India. It was essentially with India's alliance with Australia, Japanese and others. And the OP was using the terms similar to what I used that Pakistani forces, although less modern than Japan and Australia's tech, are MORE professional and battle proven enemy than both combined due to history.

You still don't have ANY real fact based argument to that. But you managed to just come back with irrational bull crap to prove something that I don't understand and neither do other readers (unless they are from India and want to hear Indian supremacy without a reason).


In ONE sentence you threatened to level 90% of the Pakistan and in the VERY next sentence you said you are not a war monger and you want peace. People wanting peace don't use the Nuclear terms and "our stuff is enough to level 90% of Pakistan" and all.

Last but not least, my country is represented my flags. Its stupid to call others Pakistani if their post doesn't agree with your propaganda. I hear the same bull crap from the Pakistani side too. Nothing new.
But, you referred to "my country" more than a few times. I don't like to sound grandiose and all.....the day you guys EVER mess with the US military, that may be the last time you'll see both your AC's floating and half the mighty SU-30's flying and THAT's the reality about my country!!!

Ohh a American Pakistani told us about our poverty.Our money ,our poverty we know how to handle it who are you to question us?
We always stayed on the side of pieces.It was our western neighbour start last for wars and they got what they want.

Who talk about US here?
Or you are trying to prove that you are an immigrant in America lol.
What I am talking about is that dont equate us with our western neighbour two are very much different.

 

[Viper0011.]

Ohh a American Pakistani told us about our poverty.Our money ,our poverty we know how to handle it who are you to question us?.

Here we go again. Can't argue with total lack of sense can I? Both of you people are out of common sense. If I write something against some's propaganda in Pakistan, they ban me calling me an Indian, if I write something that is true but doesn't match your propaganda, you call me Pakistani.

BUT, neither of you can com up with answers to what I write. "Intelligent Answers", not just getting back like a 14 year old girl like you did here.

 

[SrNair]

Oh the grandiosity about India.
Do you think that you are the ONLY ones with brain in your body? The rest of the countries, specifically, the US has lost its brain power for some reason? A country that has been ruling the world and playing strategy, literally has lost it and "you, the mighty India" are using us as a business opportunity???? Here's the reality, sorry, it is ABOUT to bite:

1) We and others look at India as a market, someone who'll buy our weapons and will modernize its military. Resulting in us (The Americans, the Australians and others) , will use you as a "cheaper and readily available" rent a military force to be used for OUR purposes. Call this the NEXT phase of job outsourcing, we are outsourcing military jobs to you in this case, while we still rule the world.
So, yea, this is the reality, you guys buy our weapons and give us some of the $$ back even with the TOT or not. Next, you guys be used for military issues. You want to show your little macho muscles with your small 600 jet force, we have issues for you where using you is much cheaper than moving a CBG 1000 miles away (just like the IT jobs situation). And it'll give your military a chance to show some muscles and get paid.

2) The US and Japan and Australia don't feel shi*t. They want to sell you stuff and that's the bottom line. The US at WILL can literally go into any country and do what its supposed to do. When it comes to a military solution, we know how to manage it, this is 2014. A FULL Century since the WWI. So a hundred years of military conflicts and strategy.

Remember, the love affair started with India having a billion people. It'll remain the case till your economy is saturated. Then you'll become like Germany, we'll go say hi and all probably have Naval facilities. But it won't be a "strategic relationship" beyond interests. At the end, we would we've made the money, you got paid for your military services and now you are a "friendly" semi modern country.

The American think tanks (irrespective of what you read in the media), ALREADY know that under ANY situation, India is NOT to be trusted. There is NO WAY you guys will get into a fight that was originally started between the US and the Chinese. You'll chicken out.

The US Military always has and always will ensure the safety and the security of its people and its national interests. It never has and will never need "partners" to go into a direct conflict. As a part of the NATO and other agreements, we'll always honor it.

But to protect our interests, we go alone as needed and don't put others in charge of our interests. Always remember this post next time you write these grandiose posts like "the Americans don't think our security is complete until India joins the group", WTF. Our donated jobs and money is barking at us lol

Lol.

Grandiosity of an immigrant.I have some doubt whether we are talking to National Security Adviser of Barack Obama.

Calm down and come back to earth from heaven
Now answer to your points .
1.US already requested us for our military support in Afghanistan several times.We rejected that.Now you should take two nations Japan and Australia from equation.Only US is in the equation because other nations are always eager for our relation.Til now the weapons of our arsenal from US are some transport aircraft and probably some helis in future.With that petty rate armaments US cant talk nothing against us
Australia dont have anything in their arms industry for exporting except Uranium lol.
Japan only have U2.while we are constructing our own ACC here.Or in brief your US cant purchase like they did in the case of our western neighbour. We are too huge for that.


2.What ever it is Japan or Australia cant substitute India at any case .Otherwise US dont need to send their 3 major secreataries within 3 months after the swearing of new govt.
US cant do anything against China without us.


So in sense your big talking is opposite to reality.
We are not Germany We are India .When Indian economy saturated it would several times higher than the US economy and at that time perhaps we have sufficient tech for us to feed our military technology .Your imagine about a US facilities is not more than day dream.
Like I said now US is not in a position to bargain us.

Here we go again. Can't argue with total lack of sense can I? Both of you people are out of common sense. If I write something against some's propaganda in Pakistan, they ban me calling me an Indian, if I write something that is true but doesn't match your propaganda, you call me Pakistani.

BUT, neither of you can com up with answers to what I write. "Intelligent Answers", not just getting back like a 14 year old girl like you did here.

Lol now you are insulted when we call that.Sorry that is not an offense.I dont think thete is mistake to call immigrant like that.

 

[Viper0011.]

Lol.

Grandiosity of an immigrant.I have some doubt whether we are talking to National Security Adviser of Barack Obama.

Calm down and come back to earth from heaven
Now answer to your points .
1.US already requested us for our military support in Afghanistan several times.We rejected that..

When you finish up with your third class mentality of trying to get personal, we'll talk. Otherwise, you should know that everyone's was an immigrant at some point to the US. I am an African brother so of course my family migrated here too long time ago. No one's telling you that you are talking to Barack Obama's adviser. I don't think I'd be here dealing with your lower level mentality of getting personal if I was that high up. Plus, I am a Republican so imagine that!

RIGHT. You guys rejected the "Request to help". Allow me to tell you the reality. Despite your efforts, the Afghans weren't comfortable due to ticking off the Pakistanis. So you end up building about 50 or so "cultural centers" where you train suicide bombers and terrorist to go attack Pakistan and are supporting violent separatist movements in Baluchistan and all.

"Cultural Centers" in the middle of no where in a society that exists on mountains and terrain without proper infrastructure and educational system. BUT, more than education and taking care of their own country, they need "Indian Cultural Centers" every few miles like a franchise pizza shop!! Talk to me more and more stuff will come out. I haven't hit the Shiv Sena, RSS involvement and Tajiskstani basis yet ...........

 

[Genesis]

today's india is in reality more powerful, if not equal to, than china, at least, militarily. economically india is weaker than china, everyone knows it but militarily india is stronger. i believe that if indian border guards open fire at chinese when they try to dismantle border posts, chinese won't retaliate. once indian border posts open fire, border problem will be solved and the indian people should encourage the border guards to open fire. once that is done, chinese will start respecting indian border posts.

Is this for real? Are you actually serious? Am I actually reading this right......

You have no dedicated attack helicopters in service, yea that one heli is not in service. We have Z-10 and 19 with them about 200 in total number and continue increasing.

Each military region have at least an army aviation regiment, and most have a brigade and more. There are talks of reducing the regions down to 5 from 7 and each to have 2 regiment of army aviation.

You have a order on going for light helicopters, we make Z-8s for fun, god knows how many of that light copter we have, in both attack and transport configurations.


In terms of uniforms, we have digital cameo with new cameo coming by 2017. In terms of body armor, we don't have it, except for all special forces, and a few battalions testing it for selection by the same time uniforms roll off. In terms of weapons, rifle sights are a common in China now, while not all have it, it's also not limited anymore.

Communication we have satellite phone, we also have Beidou, for navigation and other things.

In terms of army recon, we have hand launched drones, and vehicle launched drones to go with bigger air field launched drones.


For supply we have hundreds of Y-8 transport and infrastructure that would take you two decade to match in the region if we were to do nothing starting next year. Also did I mention helicopters.


For guns, we are a bit ahead with modern machine guns, anti material sniper rifle, scopes, dedicated grenade launcher, OICW making appearances in the marine corp in limited numbers, the 097 is up for sale in Canada that speaks to a level of confidence in our gun, and the type 03 is also a good weapon. Now this sector India is doing pretty good, I mean at this point in time, can't really fall behind too much, as long as you are a competent nation.

For anti tank, we got HJ-12, and HJ-9 and a few other launchers, to go with a few new weapons like ATF-10 ATGM launcher. Also our attack helicopters are a must on the battlefield for us.

In terms of troop moving platforms, we aren't even discussing them much anymore, too much to name, amphibious vehicles, modern APCs, multipurpose wheeled vehicles like American humvees, but not quite like it sits more people, and much much more, @cnleio has a ongoing thread called largest exercise or something that shows our accomplishments here.


In terms of tanks, the 96 proved itself in the tank competition, I'll show the video of the difference again if you must, and the new 99 is an information age weapon, with data link, high power engine, armor, and advanced fire control systems and much more. We also got light tanks, and a few other models. In terms of numbers, close to 1000 99s, and close to 3000 96s.

In terms of air defense, we got HQ series and in several different models, your S-300 if exist is too few, and your own missiles don't match the S-300, while our newer versions of Tunguska, and much upgraded Tor in HQ-17, are far superior to what you have and don't have.

Do we really have to do artillery? I mean that difference is just too huge.

In terms training, you can only be about what we were some years ago, the education level, the equipment level, in terms of satellites, imaging, spy, GPS, and more. Can't really make up a new strategy unless you got the hardware. Precision war is China's warfare of the 21st century. Don't think Americans started in the gulf war, and improved greatly in Iraqi and Enduring freedom, that it's now common, I can assure you it is not.


In terms of training, we got laser target systems on guns to allow more realistic training.


Now I more or less know what you have, you should know what you have, compare it yourself and see if you can still say that with a straight face.

Money talks in the military player, money talks.


I won't touch navy and air force, but if you like I could.

Now I don't claim to be 100% perfect, but all I listed here are in service and not on going. If you see something mistaken. Let me know.

 

[kalanirnay]

Oh the grandiosity about India.
Do you think that you are the ONLY ones with brain in your body? The rest of the countries, specifically, the US has lost its brain power for some reason? A country that has been ruling the world and playing strategy, literally has lost it and "you, the mighty India" are using us as a business opportunity???? Here's the reality, sorry, it is ABOUT to bite:

LOL. You should have quit while you were ahead. Here's the reality and I am not at all sorry its about to BITE.

1) We and others look at India as a market, someone who'll buy our weapons and will modernize its military. Resulting in us (The Americans, the Australians and others) , will use you as a "cheaper and readily available" rent a military force to be used for OUR purposes. Call this the NEXT phase of job outsourcing, we are outsourcing military jobs to you in this case, while we still rule the world.
So, yea, this is the reality, you guys buy our weapons and give us some of the $$ back even with the TOT or not. Next, you guys be used for military issues. You want to show your little macho muscles with your small 600 jet force, we have issues for you where using you is much cheaper than moving a CBG 1000 miles away (just like the IT jobs situation). And it'll give your military a chance to show some muscles and get paid.

We don't care how you look at India. .... you can look at us as aliens from Mars for all we care. Your illusions of grandeur is only in your head.

You are free to think that you can "use India" as a cheaper and readily available rent a military force Its not the first time and it certainly won't be the last time. Unfortunately none of what you think matters in the REAL world. Maybe you are mistaking India for pakistan

We brought your weapons as payment for the pleasure to watching the US eat its own hubris ....when US which built the NPT specifically to target India had to swallow its pride and has to go around it to grant Nuclear status to India

Yet when you in your usual delusion tried to sell us Nuke power plants we smacked you down and when you tried to sell us jets we smacked you down harder

You ruled (past tense) the world, the current world order is changing and EVERYBODY is busy trying to END your rule. Now chew on that ...and that plan seems to be working too. Your era is OVER. You are late for the party Aurangzeb.

2) The US and Japan and Australia don't feel shi*t. They want to sell you stuff and that's the bottom line. The US at WILL can literally go into any country and do what its supposed to do. When it comes to a military solution, we know how to manage it, this is 2014. A FULL Century since the WWI. So a hundred years of military conflicts and strategy.

Is that Why you are going into North Korea ? ..... chicken strategy ??

Remember, the love affair started with India having a billion people. It'll remain the case till your economy is saturated. Then you'll become like Germany, we'll go say hi and all probably have Naval facilities. But it won't be a "strategic relationship" beyond interests. At the end, we would we've made the money, you got paid for your military services and now you are a "friendly" semi modern country.

The American think tanks (irrespective of what you read in the media), ALREADY know that under ANY situation, India is NOT to be trusted. There is NO WAY you guys will get into a fight that was originally started between the US and the Chinese. You'll chicken out.

You need to stop worrying about India and star worrying abut the US. We are going to continue to be like India than germany. The way China continued to be china.

At the end we have become a defacto Nuclear power and nations are lining up to sell us Uranium while the US chokes and struggles trying to sell power plants to India.

India has NO INTEREST in having a strategic relationship with the US ...its the US which has been wooing India, not the other way around. I am glad the US knows that there is NO WAY India is going to interfere in a US China dispute. We are going to enjoy the show's from the side lines and then help you rebuild both countries

The US Military always has and always will ensure the safety and the security of its people and its national interests. It never has and will never need "partners" to go into a direct conflict. As a part of the NATO and other agreements, we'll always honor it.

Not true, hence the need for NATO

But to protect our interests, we go alone as needed and don't put others in charge of our interests. Always remember this post next time you write these grandiose posts like "the Americans don't think our security is complete until India joins the group", WTF. Our donated jobs and money is barking at us lol

Every body protects their own interests. There is nothing unique about the US in that regard

Now you can stop barking, its time for your namaz Aurangzeb nigga.

 

[Viper0011.]

We don't care how you look at India. .... you can look at us as aliens from Mars for all we care. Your illusions of grandeur is only in your head.

You are free to think that you can "use India" as a cheaper and readily available rent a military force Its not the first time and it certainly won't be the last time.

We brought your weapons as payment for the pleasure to watching the US eat its own hubris ....when US which built the NPT specifically to target India had to swallow its pride and has to go around it to grant Nuclear status to India

Now you can stop barking, its time for your namaz Aurangzeb nigga.

I don't look at India badly. It's people like you who make many people wonder what India as a nation is really made out of?

I don't have to think we can use India. We HAVE BEEN. And it'll be the case. You always need to align with a bigger power to show the world you hang out with the Big Bosses. It is wasn't for Israel and the US, the Chinese would take your lunch from your hand, sit and eat it in front of you and then take your lunch box away. Like they've done at the border with your mighty forces many times. All you could do, was to show a small video of 20 - 20 soldiers yelling at each other. No mention of hundreds of miles they took over and do take over at pleasure. First time in the history you are getting real advanced systems from the "big boys". So that's the reality no matter how you look at it.

And we didn't eat our words. We will build many reactors for you and will be paid for those services. Its called business interests and we are extremely good at that if you forgot. The jobs were outsourced to bring your economy up so we can actually get a big slice of it and we are, and will.

I should expect racist name calling from you of course. You can't get away from what's a part of your religion and culture. The race, cast level shows up in everyone of your and your other Indian cousins posts. Tells everyone how used to you guys are to treat others based on a pre-judged cast system that then puts other's intellect and capability in the same shi*tty cast. Only in India, two people looking the same, can be treated so differently. One like a king due to the higher class and the other one, like dirt due to the lower cast level. When will you guys come out of this cast based mess? Its 21st century? Every single post of yours shows that real inferiority (hidden behind the new online only superiority) complex.