Bhoja Air Flight crashes on final approach to Islamabad Airport.

[SHAMK9]

That was probably due to hitting electricity wires.

How come the plane was flying soo close to the ground? Or did a microburst caused it to loose altitude?

 

[Nothing]

Log yeh samagh ke ticket khared rahe thay booja airline ka ke PIA se adhi keemat par Islamabad pohanch jayenge. Aun ko kya pata tha ke apni maut ka ticket khared rahe thay!

Be sensitive tarzan ... it is not like swinging to bad tree and falling down..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Innalilahey wa inna ilehey rajeoon...

 

[VCheng]

How come the plane was flying soo close to the ground? Or did a microburst caused it to loose altitude?

Details are not known yet. A wind shear condition might be the culprit.

(Please note: As yet unconfirmed.)

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Station commd of hyderabad cantt Brig Akhtar javed? was also on the fateful airliner... massive loss of life... investigations my foot.. the owner of this airline "farooq(?) bhoja has been put on ECL... but i bet nothin will happen..

 

[blackops]

I doubt if lightening can get an airliner down

 

[Jango]

22 families were going to PMA for Passing Out Parade of their Sons

The plane is thought to have hit high-tension wires due to flying too low below the cloud base.

(as yet unconfirmed.)

Could be , if the plane did get caught in a downwind under a cloud as the preliminary data shows.

 

[Safriz]

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The plane was in Line with the Runway apparently....so it can be assumed that the pilots were alive and conscious,and had some sort of control on the plane.
The crash site is hardly 3 Km from Runway,so the plane must have been at very low altitude at that point and landing gear must be down.
TC report that the plane had lost contact about 40-50 minutes before Crash....
Parts of fuselage have been shown on the TV and they bear visible signs of a fire..
Two engines were shown on TV,and had no signs of fire although its hard to say by just seeing a few seconds of footage recorded in low light..But both engines are not Buried in the ground and did not make a crater,but were crumbled due to impact.....Still partially intact though.
The Flight data recorder was heavily dented but had no signs of fire,and had impact damage.

What can we assume from all these observations?

 

[Cent4]

It is highly unlikely that plane hit the wires, because that would not explain the small chunks of debris spread over 1 km area, and also after hitting the wires the plane would not have disintegrated
as it did.

 

[VCheng]

I doubt if lightening can get an airliner down

It was likely not lightning.

Too low of an altitude, either by choice, mistake or wind shear, followed by hitting high tension wires, is the likely culprit (as yet unconfirmed..)

............
Could be , if the plane did get caught in a downwind under a cloud as the preliminary data shows.

Sudden wind shear on final approach can be very hard to recover from.

 

[Jango]

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koral chowk rawalpindi - Google Maps

The plane was in Line with the Runway apparently....so it can be assumed that the pilots were alive and conscious,and had some sort of control on the plane.
The crash site is hardly 3 Km from Runway,so the plane must have been at very low altitude at that point and landing gear must be down.
TC report that the plane had lost contact about 40-50 minutes before Crash....
Parts of fuselage have been shown on the TV and they bear visible signs of a fire..
Two engines were shown on TV,and had no signs of fire although its hard to say by just seeing a few seconds of footage recorded in low light..But both engines are not Buried in the ground and did not make a crater,but were crumbled due to impact.....Still partially intact though.
The Flight data recorder was heavily dented but had no signs of fire,and had impact damage.

What can we assume from all these observations?

The Data recorder was broken from one side, and it was burned on one corner.

The engine still maintained the basic round shape, although it's fans were stuffed with mud. There is a picture of another forum with their watermark so can't post it here.

My thinking is that the plane got lightning, and then got caught in a downwind under a cloud.

Pilot took the risk, and did not abort landing to save fuel.

 

[longbrained]

There was a similar accident involving a B737 which crashed also on approach belonging to Turkey. The problem was the faulty altimeter reading by auto pilot which shut down the engines. Though no two accidents are alike but maybe something similar caused the aircraft to lose altitude in poor weather and hit high tension wires resulting in a big spark, fire and explosion downing the aircraft. Crew clearly were caught off guard since there was no mayday call. Here is the link to Turkish disaster: Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Jango]

It was likely not lightning.




Sudden wind shear on final approach can be very hard to recover from.

Windshear is something else I think. It is horizontal wind.

Downwind is basically when a plane passes below a cloud, a cumulonimbus cloud to be exact, high pressure from top forces the plane down, hence the large impact force.

 

[VCheng]

There was a similar accident involving a B737 which crashed also on approach belonging to Turkey. The problem was the faulty altimeter reading by auto pilot which shut down the engines. ............

Autopilot is not in use on final approach in those weather conditions.

 

[Devil Soul]

Timeline: Major air crashes in Pakistan
By AFP
Published: April 20, 2012
ISLAMABAD: A passenger plane with more than 100 people on board crashed while trying to land in bad weather near Islamabad on Friday, officials said.
Following is a chronology of major air crashes in Pakistan or involving Pakistani planes:
May 20, 1965: A Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) Boeing 707 crashes on its inaugural flight while attempting to land at Cairo airport, killing 124 people.
August 6, 1970: A PIA Fokker F27 turboprop aircraft crashes while attempting to take off from Islamabad in a thunderstorm, killing all 30 people on board.
December 8, 1972: A PIA Fokker F27 crashes in Rawalpindi, near Islamabad. All 26 people on board are killed.
November 26, 1979: A PIA Boeing 707 bringing home Pakistani Hajj pilgrims from Saudi Arabia crashes shortly after take-off from Jeddah airport, killing 156 people.
October 23, 1986: A PIA Fokker F27 crashes while coming in to land in Peshawar, killing 13 of the 54 people on board.
August 17, 1988: A US-made Hercules C-130 military aircraft crashes near Bahawalpur, killing military ruler General Mohammad Ziaul Haq and 30 others including Pakistani generals and the US ambassador.
August 25, 1989: A PIA Fokker carrying 54 people disappears after leaving Gilgit in northern Pakistan. The wreckage is never found.
September 28, 1992: A PIA Airbus A300 crashes into a cloud-covered hillside on approach to the Nepalese capital Kathmandu after the plane descended too early, killing 167 people.
February 19, 2003: An air force Fokker F27 crashes in fog-shrouded mountains near Kohat, killing air force chief Air Chief Marshal Mushaf Ali, his wife and 15 others.
February 24, 2003: A chartered Cessna 402-B carrying Afghan Mines and Industries Minister Juma Mohammad Mohammadi, four Afghan officials, a Chinese mining executive and two Pakistani crew crashes into the Arabian Sea near the southern city of Karachi.
July 10, 2006: A PIA Fokker F27 bound for Lahore crashes into a field and bursts into flames shortly after takeoff from Multan, killing 41 passengers and four crew.
July 28, 2010: An Airblue Airbus 321 operated by the private airline Airblue flying from Karachi crashes into hills outside Islamabad while preparing to land, killing all 152 people on board.
November 5, 2010: A twin-engine plane operated by Pakistani charter JS Air carrying staff from an Italian oil company crashes shortly after take-off in Karachi, killing all 21 people on board.
November 28, 2010: At least 12 people are killed when a Russian-made Ilyushin IL-76 cargo plane operated by Georgian airline Sunway crashes in a fireball seconds after taking off from Karachi.
April 20, 2012: A Bhoja Air Airbus 737 from Karachi comes down in bad weather near Islamabad. Officials say up to 130 people are on board and police say there is ‘no chance’ of survivors.