Best DG ISI of Pak?

[Last Hope]

Every Director General of ISI had to face different cases/situations with different internal and external influence/problems.
For example, Lt. General X was the DG ISI when military funding was in excess, international relations were at their peak and everyone bowed down towards Pakistan. And Lt. General Y was DG ISI in time or crisis, with threat from internal and external elements, a limited Defense budget and world pressure.

You cannot say that Lt General X was better than Lt General Y, because it was time in Lt. General Y's era that situation was worse. The fact could be that Lt. General Y was better at handling the things and taking control of situation with cool yet alert brain.

An example of Lt. General Y is Shuja Pasha and now Zaheer-ul-Islam will go through same.
Almost everyone was good at their work, but you could only rank them providing same conditions and judging their output and way they tackle the problems.

 

[MastanKhan]

For those who said Ahmed Shuja Pasha---tells me how illiterate you kids are to the matters of the world and pakistan----.


Two most disgusting soldiers in recent 10 years history of pakistan---Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha and General Kiyani---. Pakistan's image was smashed to smithereens during the course of Pasha's tenure---he had no clue how to fight he media war against the u s---.

No single nation has suffered that kind of political and image damage in the last 100 years of the mankinds history as has pakistan---because its top two generals were clueless as to how to fight the media war against their counter parts----Mullen and Pinetta.

And you people who are praises for these scumbags----what a tragedy---neither you have the vision to see---nor the common sense to determine and understand----if the nation was truly the 'MOTHER' how desolute and humiliated and degraded it would feel now. But then the understanding is for only those who have the feeling.

 

[SamranAli]

Hameed Gul,
Others i dont khow well.

 

[Baby Leone]

always the best one get the post of DG ISI soo dificult quest,

BTW i guess its Hamid Gul IMO

 

[laiqs@mi]

lolz read it what isi was before silent solder and after .


Fateh by Haroon ur Rasheed | Urdu Books, Free Download & Read Online Urdu PDF Books

thnx and thnx alot Imran bhai.
after reading each and every page of this book i pray for you to introduce me to the Hero. Sir Akhtar Abdur Rahman,
again thnx

 

[batmannow]

For those who said Ahmed Shuja Pasha---tells me how illiterate you kids are to the matters of the world and pakistan----.


Two most disgusting soldiers in recent 10 years history of pakistan---Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha and General Kiyani---. Pakistan's image was smashed to smithereens during the course of Pasha's tenure---he had no clue how to fight he media war against the u s---.

No single nation has suffered that kind of political and image damage in the last 100 years of the mankinds history as has pakistan---because its top two generals were clueless as to how to fight the media war against their counter parts----Mullen and Pinetta.

And you people who are praises for these scumbags----what a tragedy---neither you have the vision to see---nor the common sense to determine and understand----if the nation was truly the 'MOTHER' how desolute and humiliated and degraded it would feel now. But then the understanding is for only those who have the feeling.

Even though, your straightness & your dangerously bright thinking & knowlege is a very un-digestable wine of thought but you still remain un-defeted on PDF, its a great hounr for me to have you still on PDF!
You are dam, right!
Well, great to see you here.
I think even with all the support , he has in his days but he defended pakistan inetnly & externly well, & killed the 2nd strongest superpower of the world.
All time great, sir Gen Akhter Abdul Rehman.

 

[Bossman]

For those who said Ahmed Shuja Pasha---tells me how illiterate you kids are to the matters of the world and pakistan----.


Two most disgusting soldiers in recent 10 years history of pakistan---Gen Ahmed Shuja Pasha and General Kiyani---. Pakistan's image was smashed to smithereens during the course of Pasha's tenure---he had no clue how to fight he media war against the u s---.

No single nation has suffered that kind of political and image damage in the last 100 years of the mankinds history as has pakistan---because its top two generals were clueless as to how to fight the media war against their counter parts----Mullen and Pinetta.

And you people who are praises for these scumbags----what a tragedy---neither you have the vision to see---nor the common sense to determine and understand----if the nation was truly the 'MOTHER' how desolute and humiliated and degraded it would feel now. But then the understanding is for only those who have the feeling.

Why acceptance by the West such an important thing for you? Pakistan will have a very good standing with the US if we accept all their demand and compromise our national interests. There is no way any one can fight a media war with the West. If you think western media is an honest broker you are naive despite your experience and age. Media is a tool, among others, used by the West to achieve its goals. Our broken image is a badge of honor that we should be proud of as finally somebody had the balls to stand up to them. Like most of your other post on this forum, you putting down other members based on a very convulat, ill informed and biased view of things. You have no idea what Kiyani and Pasha were against and what they have acheived. Starting with assasination of BB and Zaradari becoming president, US had a plan, which included neutring of the Pakistan military and that plan has been foiled thanks to these two guys.

 

[MastanKhan]

Why acceptance by the West such an important thing for you? Pakistan will have a very good standing with the US if we accept all their demand and compromise our national interests. There is no way any one can fight a media war with the West. If you think western media is an honest broker you are naive despite your experience and age. Media is a tool, among others, used by the West to achieve its goals. Our broken image is a badge of honor that we should be proud of as finally somebody had the balls to stand up to them. Like most of your other post on this forum, you putting down other members based on a very convulat, ill informed and biased view of things. You have no idea what Kiyani and Pasha were against and what they have acheived. Starting with assasination of BB and Zaradari becoming president, US had a plan, which included neutring of the Pakistan military and that plan has been foiled thanks to these two guys.

Mister,

As always---you have no clue of what you are talking about----when the steam gets to the brains and the eyes see red---you simply cannot read or understand what is written in black and white.

Kiyani should have been on the foeriegn media with a smile on his face and talking about the failures of the u s millitary from day one---he should have talked about how the american generals failed in their analysis and application of this war---. With maps and photos Kiyani should have explained on the media how the u s millitary would move away troops from the other side of the border when pak millitary was carrying out strikes on its side.

All this with a smile on his face---easy going relaxed attitude---how the u s millitary coralled the taliban and the al qaeda and pushed all of t hem into pakistan rather than circling them---closing the border between pakistan and afg by the u s troops and taking out the al qaeda right then and there.

What were the ulterior motives of the u s millitary's heirarchy to push all the criminals into a poor and ill equipped country like pakistan---. All Kiyani and Pasha have done is let Mullen and Pinetta destroy the image of pakistan while hiding all their failures---.

These guys had the examples of Musharraf in front of them---regardless of what he has done---he always fights for pakistan tooth and nail in front of the media.

Zardari became president because the millitary became a chicken---a tiger does not forego his stripes and neither should have the pak millitary---they should have drawn the line when it came to Zardari.

Pakistani millitary failed even when the chinese engineers were being abducted by the criminals---pak millitary could not get the nation behind it even to protect the chinese engineers working in pakistan----.

Son---it is very evident that you have no learning ability----I don't blame you---because the fruit does not fall too far from the tree---. A broken image is never a badge of honor----but " A MARK OF SHAME"---maybe in your ignorance you mixed the markof shame with the badge of honor----.

Or maybe you might have been taught that the MARK OF SHAME is a badge of honor---now that you have been informed otherwise you are allowed to correct your point of view---.

I appreciate that you keep coming back for more---and it is okay----parents always want their children to learn more than them---. There is no shame to be spanked a time or two by your goodold dad. You know----it is your inner 'thing' that makes you come back again and again----. This image of a hot rock that you show yourself to be---some cold water and vinegar and it is shattered.

 

[Bossman]

Mister,

As always---you have no clue of what you are talking about----when the steam gets to the brains and the eyes see red---you simply cannot read or understand what is written in black and white.

Kiyani should have been on the foeriegn media with a smile on his face and talking about the failures of the u s millitary from day one---he should have talked about how the american generals failed in their analysis and application of this war---. With maps and photos Kiyani should have explained on the media how the u s millitary would move away troops from the other side of the border when pak millitary was carrying out strikes on its side.

All this with a smile on his face---easy going relaxed attitude---how the u s millitary coralled the taliban and the al qaeda and pushed all of t hem into pakistan rather than circling them---closing the border between pakistan and afg by the u s troops and taking out the al qaeda right then and there.

What were the ulterior motives of the u s millitary's heirarchy to push all the criminals into a poor and ill equipped country like pakistan---. All Kiyani and Pasha have done is let Mullen and Pinetta destroy the image of pakistan while hiding all their failures---.

These guys had the examples of Musharraf in front of them---regardless of what he has done---he always fights for pakistan tooth and nail in front of the media.

Zardari became president because the millitary became a chicken---a tiger does not forego his stripes and neither should have the pak millitary---they should have drawn the line when it came to Zardari.

Pakistani millitary failed even when the chinese engineers were being abducted by the criminals---pak millitary could not get the nation behind it even to protect the chinese engineers working in pakistan----.

Son---it is very evident that you have no learning ability----I don't blame you---because the fruit does not fall too far from the tree---. A broken image is never a badge of honor----but " A MARK OF SHAME"---maybe in your ignorance you mixed the markof shame with the badge of honor----.

Or maybe you might have been taught that the MARK OF SHAME is a badge of honor---now that you have been informed otherwise you are allowed to correct your point of view---.

I appreciate that you keep coming back for more---and it is okay----parents always want their children to learn more than them---. There is no shame to be spanked a time or two by your goodold dad. You know----it is your inner 'thing' that makes you come back again and again----. This image of a hot rock that you show yourself to be---some cold water and vinegar and it is shattered.

Who in the biased western media will give Kiyani or Pasha even a minute to bash US military and generals. Media is a western propagation tool not Pakistani tool. Please go and improve your knowledge and how the world works before you starting sermonising others. For a change read real books instead of spy thrillers to develop a world view.

As for Musharraf he got used and what Kiyani and Pasha have done is to undo the damage he had done.

For starter I would suggest you go read:

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky

 

[MastanKhan]

See---you assume again----when you talk back---they will come to listen---and when they come to listen---some of it will get back---this world is such a different place---media savy---cell phone---twitter---facebook kind of world---you don't need media to tell your side of story---you just get in front of your camera and post it---the world will find out----.

Kid I am telling you how the world works and again out of habbit you want to **** heads against the walls---your system has failed---your kind of thinking has failed---your approach and mindset has failed---. The things that you do---you keep doing them over and over and it is putting you in a deeper hole---you people are going thru life like senseless brainless maniacs---clueless of the consequences with no ability to learn .

 

[Bossman]

See---you assume again----when you talk back---they will come to listen---and when they come to listen---some of it will get back---this world is such a different place---media savy---cell phone---twitter---facebook kind of world---you don't need media to tell your side of story---you just get in front of your camera and post it---the world will find out----.

Kid I am telling you how the world works and again out of habbit you want to **** heads against the walls---your system has failed---your kind of thinking has failed---your approach and mindset has failed---. The things that you do---you keep doing them over and over and it is putting you in a deeper hole---you people are going thru life like senseless brainless maniacs---clueless of the consequences with no ability to learn .

Only kid on this block is you. Nothing has failed, the fun is just starting and it will be a hundered years before anyone really know the impact of the shift in balance of power that is just begin to take place. You are from the post WWII generation which believes that West is God and every thing it says and does it right. But look around around you there is a sea change happening all over. It has happened in Turkey, it happened in Egypt and it is begin to happen in Pakistan. People are becoming assertive and as a result leaders who pander to the west or their own selfish interest like Gadaffi and Assad at the cost of their own national interest and interest of people are slowly and but steadily being pushed aside. Kiyani and Pasha are smart enough to know how the wind is blowing and they want to be on the right side of history. You are too close minded to understand the change that is happening. You don't even understand the country you live in. Maybe its a house of cards, built on credit and its economic system could easily collapse as it nearly did in 2008.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Only kid on this block is you. Nothing has failed, the fun is just starting and it will be a hundered years before anyone really know the impact of the shift in balance of power that is just begin to take place. You are from the post WWII generation which believes that West is God and every thing it says and does it right. But look around around you there is a sea change happening all over. It has happened in Turkey, it happened in Egypt and it is begin to happen in Pakistan. People are becoming assertive and as a result leaders who pander to the west or their own selfish interest like Gadaffi and Assad at the cost of their own national interest and interest of people are slowly and but steadily being pushed aside. Kiyani and Pasha are smart enough to know how the wind is blowing and they want to be on the right side of history. You are too close minded to understand the change that is happening. You don't even understand the country you live in. Maybe its a house of cards, built on credit and its economic system could easily collapse as it nearly did in 2008.

I am tempted to jump in ... but I will let MK do the needful first

MK, your move kind Sir.

Only kid on this block is you. Nothing has failed, the fun is just starting and it will be a hundered years before anyone really know the impact of the shift in balance of power that is just begin to take place. You are from the post WWII generation which believes that West is God and every thing it says and does it right. But look around around you there is a sea change happening all over. It has happened in Turkey, it happened in Egypt and it is begin to happen in Pakistan. People are becoming assertive and as a result leaders who pander to the west or their own selfish interest like Gadaffi and Assad at the cost of their own national interest and interest of people are slowly and but steadily being pushed aside. Kiyani and Pasha are smart enough to know how the wind is blowing and they want to be on the right side of history. You are too close minded to understand the change that is happening. You don't even understand the country you live in. Maybe its a house of cards, built on credit and its economic system could easily collapse as it nearly did in 2008.

I am tempted to jump in ... but I will let MK do the needful first

MK, your move kind Sir.

 

[wiseman]

Lt Gen Hamid Gul is well known by the Pakistan people. Thanks to the media.

 

[batmannow]

Lt Gen Hamid Gul is well known by the Pakistan people. Thanks to the media.

selfish & allways a showman!

 

[PiyaraPakistan]

AoA all, My Fovourit is Gen Hameed Gul