Besides Kashmir, What else are the reason of animosity between India and Pakistan?

[Indus Pakistan]

Non. Pakistan rolls over and ipso facto becomes part of India.

 

[Rollno21]

Oh well, I will argue its same for us as well. Kashmiris are not exactly extremely happy with us as well.

Show me anywhere in India where they say govt has done enough for them and they are happy about it.

All the kashmiries need is well paid jobs like rest of India,and you won't get those jobs unless you allow companies to invest and run business.you cannot run the whole state on tourist economy and top of that which gets effected due to some supporting terrorists

kashmir belongs to Kashmiris and they will not leave their ancestral homes its their choice either they want to be with us or an independent state you being non Kashmiri should be no one to ask them leave their homes you have no say in this matter

Some of you claim your ancestors to be the Invaders ,did they bring their land along with them

 

[Riea]

Oh well, I will argue its same for us as well. Kashmiris are not exactly extremely happy with us as well.


Then you should bomb the entire Nigeria or most of Africa? Rather why do you care then?

I said ugly not black!

 

[911]

It will solve nothing because the enmity now is deep rooted. Pakistan always will be used as puppet by other countries in trying attain parity vis-a-vis India. The only two possible ways two nations may stop fighting are either there is complete understanding between the two nations (don't see it for at least next 100 years) or if India totally dominates Pakistan with brute force (which is also less likely since would be a mistake if Pakistan starts the war, and India can't retaliate to cowardly non state terror attacks).

 

[Shajida Khan]

Show me anywhere in India where they say govt has done enough for them and they are happy about it.

All the kashmiries need is well paid jobs like rest of India,and you won't get those jobs unless you allow companies to invest and run business.you cannot run the whole state on tourist economy and top of that which gets effected due to some supporting terrorists

Okay, I was downplaying or understating 'anger' with using the phrase 'not happy' for sarcasm. Kashmiri are pretty angry with us to be fair. And its not 'angry' as in 'you don't freaking do anything for us on time!' but 'You are freaken killing our youth! Leave us alone! You dogs!' angry.

 

[BATMAN]

If Kashmir is resolved

They will ask for Delhi and Agra.

This fight is not really about Kashmir , it is about some medieval sense of entitlement over South Asia and its about “ toys for the boys”

Kashmir is disputed territory.... this is why there's no marked border.

 

[XDescendantX]

Indians are backstabbing instigators & have no honor. Pakistanis weren't just cheated Kashmir but other Muslim majority provinces which didn't border Pakistan so they had no choice but to be annexed by the backstabbers.

The backstabbers practiced a non-violence stance when the British were the ruling class but did a complete 180 when Partition took place. Thus also proving them to be fake & snakes who only bite when they have an overwhelming dominance.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Some of you claim your ancestors to be the Invaders ,did they bring their land along with them

watch this Video and tell me how are Kashmiris are different from rest of Indian

 

[Rollno21]

Okay, I was downplaying or understating 'anger' with using the phrase 'not happy' for sarcasm. Kashmiri are pretty angry with us to be fair. And its not 'angry' as in 'you don't freaking do anything for us on time!' but 'You are freaken killing our youth! Leave us alone dogs!' angry.

Yes I know ,that can be changes over time like they where made to hate by outside influence.people can be integrated if there is no outside influence.

watch this Video and tell me how are Kashmiris are different from rest of Indian

I will watch it little later and respond

 

[Shajida Khan]

Folks, this thread is about a specific scenario. Not the justification about who gets Kashmir. Its a hypothetical scenario and most probably will not play out in reality. So lets stick to that premise and argue!

Premise
India free Kashmir (only valley not Jammu or Laddakh) peacefully without any war

Argument

1. What will be the issues for India and Pakistan to still be enemies?

2. Will they remain as much of an enemy as they are right now?

3. What do you think India Pakistan dynamics will look like say 10 years from that event. Assuming India makes no claims or any intervention with Kashmiris.

 

[Old School]

The animosity between Pakistan and India is complex and multifaceted. Kashmir is only a symptom but not the true cause.

 

[Sky lord]

Kashmir is disputed territory.... this is why there's no marked border.

No one is disagreeing with that here.

What I said was that if Kashmir is resolved, Pakistan will ask for Delhi and Agra on a plate.

This fight is not about Kashmir, it is about a sense of historical vengeance and regaining whT Pakistan feels is their rightful place in South Asia.

The animosity between Pakistan and India is complex and multifaceted. Kashmir is only a symptom but not the true cause.

Exactly

 

[BATMAN]

This fight is not about Kashmir, it is about a sense of historical vengeance and regaining whT Pakistan feels is their rightful place in South Asia.

In any case, Indian occupation of Kashmir is illegal and India stands accountable for killings of civilians.

 

[Shajida Khan]

The animosity between Pakistan and India is complex and multifaceted. Kashmir is only a symptom but not the true cause.

Elaborate or provide some article or something.

 

[Sky lord]

1. What will be the issues for India and Pakistan to still be enemies?

The issue will be that Pakistan will ask for other Muslim majority areas in India.

In any case, Indian occupation of India is illegal and should be accountable for killings of civilians.

Would you then agree that Pakistan should also be accountable for civilian deaths in Baluch?

NWF did not want to join Pakistan at partition - frontier Gandhi preferred India.

Bacha khans last words to Congress was” you have thrown us to the wolves”