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I dont hate Nehru or his family.Well you must know
I really like Indira Gandhi even if she has some autocratic attitude I can rate her as the best PM India .She protected our country from lot of challenges.Jawarhlal Nehru best contribution is that he gave a stability to our nation as a democratic country.All that leaders including Rajiv Gandhi was always worked for our national even if they had some short comings.
They gave us a unity.But efficitivness of Congress partly vanished due to the death of Rajiv Gandhi.
One of worst mistake Congress did is that they prefer members from Nehru family more than any others.Inevitable result is that deztruction of the cadre system in Congress .Now you can see its result.
Except Shastri they dont give to any chance to any other leaders even if they had a lot of them.
Just after the death of the Rajiv Gandhi .Sitaram Kesari a good organizer and Congress man took the charge .But those who want the personal benefits from Congress enforce Sonia Gandhi to enter in to politics .
Just check the recent UPA rule.
Still I dont believe that Nehru family loot all that money .They dont need it .But there is some people in the inner circle of Congress needed that money.
But their another mistakeis that they continue all these even if they got sense of the changes of dynamics among Indians.


Congress is the party of Indian people not the private property of a family .They forgot these fundamental basics.
Earlier generations doesnt care this but present generations
youth is too sensitive to that.
In the name of secularism all other parties follow these same method.We saw the dramas of SP ,Congress for vote bank politics.No one is better not even BJP.
But they are the only one who proposes some creative about development.
Ensure development and education secularism will follow.
Secularism a noble word pronounced by Mahatma Gandhi now is degraded in to a lowest level for cheap votebank politics.
I dont believe all the stories propogated by Hindutvavadis.
But we know ancient Indian Kings always welcomef refugees and poor people of different religion in to our soil.
Like Zamorin/Samuthiri in Calicut who allow Arabs to settle
in our soil and gave them all facilities.That is also a secularism.
Our political parties mainly Congress dont stand for secularis m .If that was correct then our minorities could be a successful community a long time ago.Instead they are still
in poverty and illetracy.
Congress gave fertile soil for these fanatics .Shah Bano case is a best example.Loosening the security in Babri Masjid is also another example.
Sorry if you felt that was a personal attacks against Congress .But I dont meant it.

You got the whole thing wrong.

I didn't think it was a personal attack against the Nehru family. I thought that you weren't thinking things through on the post, and that you were using a stereotypical position.

Personally, the Nehru-Gandhi family is highly overrated. Motilal, Jawaharlal and Indira were very important for India, but after that, there is a void. That is not the point at all; calling them names is the point. Personalising a dislike is really not the answer, and adds nothing.

Then about secularism.

I think that the Congress was all wrong about how it dealt with the minorities. But that again is no reason to use jargon that conceals a religious antipathy to people of another religion. Disliking fake secularism is one thing. Using phrases like 'sickular' is something else.

Although whatever happened is regrettable, What were you expecting when missionaries resort to forcible conversions and insult other gods?

Are you saying that the Staines were conducting forcible conversions? Are you even aware of why they were killed?

You didn't answer my question about Christian extremists.

But I'll answer your question about what I was expecting when missionaries preach their religion, and try to persuade people to change to it, an activity that is entirely permissible under the Indian Constitution.

I don't expect murder. I don't expect children to be burnt alive.
 
Graham Staines had to suffer for the sins of all Christian Missionaries working in India. Natural Justice was served to him. His sons were collateral damage.

Nazis were renowned for employing the same tactics of collective punishment.
 
Are you saying that the Staines were conducting forcible conversions? Are you even aware of why they were killed?
Ofcourse yes. According to my knowledge, Graham Staines was killed for the very reason I pointed out. If not, please let me know.
 
Graham Staines had to suffer for the sins of all Christian Missionaries working in India. Natural Justice was served to him. His sons were collateral damage.

You are utterly disgusting.

There is no natural justice in a mob killing. That just reflects the natural antipathy of the Sangh Parivar, and Internet Hindus, to the justice system in general. You believe in mob rule, and call it natural justice.

And to call two innocents murdered knowing that they were in the van collateral damage is perverse.
 
There should not be any us and them in India....Terrorism has not separated any Hindu and Muslim people so it needs preparation from all Indian to counter this threat...
 
Like the collective punishment the messengers of peace delivered to us on 26/11?

From your comment it seems you are cut from the same cloth as those who you call messengers of peace.
 
Christian extremists? The ones that burnt alive a man and his two small sons sleeping in their van? Or was it the ones who attacked churches and chapels? How many Hindus got killed by Christian extremists? How many Christians got killed by Hindu extremists? Want to do the numbers? Or is changing the text forbidden by the Parivar?

And congratulations - with this crap, you are on the way to being a Home Minister of your state - real soon now.

Enjoy.

The good part or bad part of Hindu religion is that it does not encourage conversion from other religion to Hindusim...But other religion encourages the conversion from Hinduism to Christinality and other religion...Then social discontent will obviously rise...
 
Have you heard about Goan Inquisition where Hindus were skinned and boiled alive?
Ever heard the slogan "Nagalim for Christ" in Nagaland?
Ever heard them calling Hindus "Devil Worshippers"?
Ever heard about NLFT (Tripura) which has so far killed many HIndus who refused to convert to Christianity?

As far as that guy who got cooked alive is concerned, he deserved it. Natural Justice.

When was the Goan Inquisition? Do you have any idea?
What is extremist about Nagalim for Christ? How many Hindus in Nagaland died at the hands of Naga Christians because of being Hindu? And why are you quoting mythical stories cooked up by the Sangh Parivar?

What precisely did Graham Staines do to deserve being burnt alive? What is your idea of justice? What kind of a creep would come out in public with statements like this?
 
i am in...
i am not very secular.. . neither i want to be... we have suffered enough..not any more... millions and millions of our brothers have been ailaneted form our basic faith... time to bring them back in...
 
Ofcourse yes. According to my knowledge, Graham Staines was killed for the very reason I pointed out. If not, please let me know.

Not.

There was not a single charge of forcible conversion. Not even by the SanghParivar.

That charge exists only in your sick imagination.
 
When was the Goan Inquisition? Do you have any idea?
What is extremist about Nagalim for Christ? How many Hindus in Nagaland died at the hands of Naga Christians because of being Hindu? And why are you quoting mythical stories cooked up by the Sangh Parivar?

What precisely did Graham Staines do to deserve being burnt alive? What is your idea of justice? What kind of a creep would come out in public with statements like this?

Self Preservation is the natural right and in Graham Staines case people used their right.
How many Hindus died in Kashmir because they were Hindus? I guess NONE. That is what secular media reports. Similarly no Hindu died in Nagaland and Tripura.
 
Not.

There was not a single charge of forcible conversion. Not even by the SanghParivar.

That charge exists only in your sick imagination.
Before going personal, Could you please tell me the reason why Staines was killed?
 
The good part or bad part of Hindu religion is that it does not encourage conversion from other religion to Hindusim...But other religion encourages the conversion from Hinduism to Christinality and other religion...Then social discontent will obviously rise...

Why should social discontent rise if an individual changes his religion? What is social about this phenomenon? Which busybody makes it his business to feel offended about somebody else's private and personal decision?

Do you have any idea about what secularism means? And do you have any idea about what compelling someone to continue to pretend to loyalty to a faith system that she or he no longer believes in amounts to?
 
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