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Barbaric Gujrat Massacre - The Truth Behind The Story

The Gujarat massacre was organised by Indian fundamentalist Hindutva groups and this has been openly broadcasted on Indian News channels you can live in all ur dreams but the ghost of Gujarat will always haunt u till all the killed get justice.
Sectarian violence in pakistan has also taken thousands of lives in few years and even more in number. This is also openly broadcasted on PAKISTANI CHANNELS you can also live in u dreams but these things happen in every country. Point is we have to learn, not haunted, from these events to avoid any such incident in future.
 
Any surprises on the attempts to restart years old thread about incidents in India when $hit starts to hit the fan in Pakistan.. Diversion much?
 
'Narasimha Rao prayed when Babri was demolished' alleges new book

NEW DELHI: Yet another book has levelled an allegation against P V Narasimha Rao that he had connived at the demolition of Babri Masjid claiming that the late Prime Minister had sat in a ‘puja’ (prayers) when the ‘kar sevaks’ began pulling it down and rose only when it was over.

The charge relating to the demolition on December 6, 1992 has been made by eminent journalist Kuldip Nayar in his soon-to-be released autobiography “Beyond the Lines” being published by Roli Books.

“My information was that Rao had connived at the demolition. He sat at ‘puja’ when the ‘kar sevaks’ (volunteers) began pulling down the mosque and rose only when the last stone had been removed,” adding that, “Madhu Limaye (late socialist leader) later told me that during the ‘puja’, Rao’s aide whispered in his ears that the masjid had been demolished. Within seconds, the ‘puja’ was over”, he said in a chapter on “Narasimha Rao’s Government” in the book.

P V Ranga Rao, son of the late Prime Minister, however strongly dismissed the claim as “unbelievable and untenable”.
“It is unbelievable and untenable…There is no way my father would have done so. He was in anguish when the Babri structure was demolished, for he loved Muslims for years and was their ardent supporter. He told us many times that it should not have happened,”

Regretting that an eminent journalist like Nayar could write such tings, Ranga Rao said “vested interests” were trying to spew venom against his father, who is no more to defend himself.

Nayar said that when there were riots in the wake of the demolition, Rao invited some senior journalists to his house.
“He was at pains to explain to us how his government had made every arrangement to stop the demolition. Rao said he was betrayed by the Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Kalyan Singh”.

When asked how a small temple could have been erected overnight at the site when the Centre was at the helm of affairs having dismissed the Kalyan Singh government, Rao said he had attempted to send a contingent of CRPF by plane to Lucknow but they were unable to land because of bad weather.

Besides, Nayar said Rao did not explain the “inaction” of Central forces in Ayodhya, but assured him that the temple would not be there “for long”.

“Rao’s government will always be held responsible for the demolition of the Babri Masjid. The curious thing was that he was conscious of such an eventuality but did virtually nothing to avert it,” Nayar said.

The late former prime minister had once invited senior journalists to brief them with the efforts his government was making to reach a settlement. According to Nayar, when he asked him which stage they had reached, Rao replied “somewhere,” but “there was no serious edge to his voice”.

Nayar recalled that soon after, he witnessed the gathering of the storm with thousands of ‘kar sevaks’ descending upon Ayodhya and the RSS and the BJP leaders converging on the city.

Kalyan Singh, who was heading the BJP government in U P, made statements which indicated that he had no intention of protecting the Masjid, although the Supreme Court had ordered maintenance of status quo and his government had given an undertaking that it would do so.

The climax came when the Masjid was demolished to the last stone on that fateful day by thousands of ‘kar sevaks’, egged on by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) leadership.

“It was daylight murder of secularism,” Nayar writes.

He also says that the Congress cauldron was boiling, not because of the Masjid demolition, but because of internal conflicts. Sonia Gandhi never liked Narasimha Rao, particularly when he assumed leadership of both the Congress party and its government, Nayar says.

He adds that Sonia did not want to join issue with him, preferring to remain aloof from party matters. Even so, the infighting with the Congress and its shrinking space in the country bothered her. Many Congress leaders from the Centre and the states met her individually to appeal to her to lead the party. To them, she seemed the only person who represented the consensus in the party.

According to Nayar, her gravest concern was that communal forces representing the BJP were claiming the political space, “The only occasion I spoke to her, she came across as a committed secularist, who firmly believed that pluralism was the bedrock of Indian society”.

Nayar says he could gauge that she graduallyrealised that she would have to join politics if she wanted to fight against communalism and that the only instrument she had for this was the Congress.

‘Narasimha Rao prayed when Babri was demolished’ alleges new book – The Express Tribune
 
Truelly shocking! I'm angered, frustated but most of all disgusted by the fact that the ones responsible for the massacre haven't brought to justice yet, in fact they're being protected!

People are asking for Dawood and Kasab's blood when Mohdi is still considered a hero. They condemn Taliban's for beheading people but its ok when muslims are litterly cut into pieces, women and children raped in public! Hypocrites! :angree:
first of all my best wishes and sympathy for ones effected by the pathetic and barbaric act, and then want to tell every one that's the reason the quaid-e-azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah created our beloved country, he knew this thing would happen 50 years back

If I ever could do something, I would put these pigs in a open field against Pathans and Singhs. Then ask them to show how big of man they are. It's an absolute shame and discusting how they consider them selves MAN and above all humans. This a absolute copy of 1984 in 2002. :angry:
that would be good punishment for him, i will say even the small kids of pathans and singhs would be enough for these pigs :D
 
Some 300 Hindus and 800 Muslims died in riots in 2002 in Gujarat, and that is a shame. But there is no evidence that Modi was personally behind it - if there had been, the bitterly opposed Congress government at the Centre would have got him by now.

In any case, the number of Muslims being killed by Muslims in Pakistan is several orders of magnitude higher. Neo should be even more shocked, angered, disgusted and frustrated at that.

At least Narendra Modi is providing Muslims with 24 hour power (in all towns and villages), drinking water, broadband connectivity (even in villages), good roads, good education for Muslim girls, a better economic environment through higher agricultural productivity and industrial development, etc.

So, Muslims are living better in Gujarat than in Pakistan, and that is why many Muslims too are supporting the BJP.
that's not a fair deal, give them food to grow and then kill them most brutally, the question is not to compare them with the Pakistanis, compare them with the Hindu Indians, then see whats happening to them
 
first of all my best wishes and sympathy for ones effected by the pathetic and barbaric act, and then want to tell every one that's the reason the quaid-e-azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah created our beloved country, he knew this thing would happen 50 years back

that would be good punishment for him, i will say even the small kids of pathans and singhs would be enough for these pigs :D

bhai saab you are 11 years late.

that's not a fair deal, give them food to grow and then kill them most brutally, the question is not to compare them with the Pakistanis, compare them with the Hindu Indians, then see whats happening to them

what do you mean.. we gave muslims food and they burnt hindus in the train?
 
The Babar mosque was not demolished in one minute. There was ample time to protect this heritage. But, the Rao govt did not come forward to protect it. Indian Hindus have a medieval mind.

There was a major persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh right after the Babri mosque demolition, more than 200 Hindu temples were destroyed and Bangladeshi Hindus suffered terribly in the hands of Bangladeshi Muslims. Taslima Nasrin wrote her famous book "Lajja" on that heinous incident, and then she was banished from Bangladesh. So, what kind of mindset Bangladeshi Muslims have?
 
There was a major persecution of Hindus in Bangladesh right after the Babri mosque demolition, more than 200 Hindu temples were destroyed and Bangladeshi Hindus suffered terribly in the hands of Bangladeshi Muslims. Taslima Nasrin wrote her famous book "Lajja" on that heinous incident, and then she was banished from Bangladesh. So, what kind of mindset Bangladeshi Muslims have?

Unless people regard each others religion such incidents will keep taking place.
 
'Narasimha Rao prayed when Babri was demolished' alleges new book

NEW DELHI: Yet another book has levelled an allegation against P V Narasimha Rao that he had connived at the demolition of Babri Masjid claiming that the late Prime Minister had sat in a ‘puja’ (prayers) when the ‘kar sevaks’ began pulling it down and rose only when it was over.

The charge relating to the demolition on December 6, 1992 has been made by eminent journalist Kuldip Nayar in his soon-to-be released autobiography “Beyond the Lines” being published by Roli Books.

“My information was that Rao had connived at the demolition. He sat at ‘puja’ when the ‘kar sevaks’ (volunteers) began pulling down the mosque and rose only when the last stone had been removed,” adding that, “Madhu Limaye (late socialist leader) later told me that during the ‘puja’, Rao’s aide whispered in his ears that the masjid had been demolished. Within seconds, the ‘puja’ was over”, he said in a chapter on “Narasimha Rao’s Government” in the book.

P V Ranga Rao, son of the late Prime Minister, however strongly dismissed the claim as “unbelievable and untenable”.
“It is unbelievable and untenable…There is no way my father would have done so. He was in anguish when the Babri structure was demolished, for he loved Muslims for years and was their ardent supporter. He told us many times that it should not have happened,”

Regretting that an eminent journalist like Nayar could write such tings, Ranga Rao said “vested interests” were trying to spew venom against his father, who is no more to defend himself.

Nayar said that when there were riots in the wake of the demolition, Rao invited some senior journalists to his house.
“He was at pains to explain to us how his government had made every arrangement to stop the demolition. Rao said he was betrayed by the Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Kalyan Singh”.

When asked how a small temple could have been erected overnight at the site when the Centre was at the helm of affairs having dismissed the Kalyan Singh government, Rao said he had attempted to send a contingent of CRPF by plane to Lucknow but they were unable to land because of bad weather.

Besides, Nayar said Rao did not explain the “inaction” of Central forces in Ayodhya, but assured him that the temple would not be there “for long”.

“Rao’s government will always be held responsible for the demolition of the Babri Masjid. The curious thing was that he was conscious of such an eventuality but did virtually nothing to avert it,” Nayar said.

The late former prime minister had once invited senior journalists to brief them with the efforts his government was making to reach a settlement. According to Nayar, when he asked him which stage they had reached, Rao replied “somewhere,” but “there was no serious edge to his voice”.

Nayar recalled that soon after, he witnessed the gathering of the storm with thousands of ‘kar sevaks’ descending upon Ayodhya and the RSS and the BJP leaders converging on the city.

Kalyan Singh, who was heading the BJP government in U P, made statements which indicated that he had no intention of protecting the Masjid, although the Supreme Court had ordered maintenance of status quo and his government had given an undertaking that it would do so.

The climax came when the Masjid was demolished to the last stone on that fateful day by thousands of ‘kar sevaks’, egged on by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) leadership.

“It was daylight murder of secularism,” Nayar writes.

He also says that the Congress cauldron was boiling, not because of the Masjid demolition, but because of internal conflicts. Sonia Gandhi never liked Narasimha Rao, particularly when he assumed leadership of both the Congress party and its government, Nayar says.

He adds that Sonia did not want to join issue with him, preferring to remain aloof from party matters. Even so, the infighting with the Congress and its shrinking space in the country bothered her. Many Congress leaders from the Centre and the states met her individually to appeal to her to lead the party. To them, she seemed the only person who represented the consensus in the party.

According to Nayar, her gravest concern was that communal forces representing the BJP were claiming the political space, “The only occasion I spoke to her, she came across as a committed secularist, who firmly believed that pluralism was the bedrock of Indian society”.

Nayar says he could gauge that she graduallyrealised that she would have to join politics if she wanted to fight against communalism and that the only instrument she had for this was the Congress.

‘Narasimha Rao prayed when Babri was demolished’ alleges new book – The Express Tribune

He did the right thing.
 
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