Hey,
Let us look at a scenario
1. Gaofeng spots a target. For simplicity sake, assume it is a land based SAM, which has been deployed in a stationary position. The Gaofeng now spots this.
We both are on the same page here. Where we differ on is what happens next. You say, the Beido system tracks the target. I am saying, you are mixing two things here. One is the Beidou constellation of satellites and the second is the GIS system with the spatial data. The satellites of GPS systems only transmit a time stamp. The satellites cannot track the 'target' or a device which receives the data.
Hi
first of i am talking about sea based targets, not land based. this thread is about the barak 8 and the harpoon. but i shall answer it when relevant.a gps is moe than one satalite, as an actuall a single satalite is not even a gps satelite you need atleast 3. this is to trianglate the target which pin points your exact location. also can yuo prove the gaofeng only gives out a time stamp only and notreal time guidance.
Next let us say, what you says is correct.
1. The Gaefong knows where it is. Agreed on this. The Gaofeng knows where the target is. For this you will need the following:
a. What is the target. This would mean either a manual operator marking the target. Let us assume the manual operator marks the target. Once, the operator marks the target the satellite does not need to have the image maps. They are stored in a GIS database locally where the operator sits. So the situation you mentioned of images loaded on the satellite does not arise.
this is very linear and irrelevant. firstly i did mention a library of targets and also the satelite will only ensure its not going to identify a civilian target i.e. a cargoship. also one of its own ships. its worth pointing out that civilain ships have route plans, just like flight plans for aircraft. but for ships. it would just ensure that it ignors civilian ships and ensure they are civilian and not mascurading as civilian ships. and then know where its own ships are. it does sound quiet complicated, im not to good with words. but in the end, it is visully confirmed before action is taken
b. You mention the Gaofeng searching for something from a library of images. Possible. But, then the military does not automate target selection. But, here is a problem. The Gaofeng can be used only on water. Not on land. Due to multiple other variation possibilities. But let us go ahead and say the Gaofeng identifies a target. This is handed over to an officer for confirmation. He confirms the target.
Now, where we differ is what happens next.
the gaofang can be used for land targets. infact thats what its specifically made for. they are other more advanced satelites but this one is the most publically known so i though i may as well referance this instead of more sensative systems.
below is a image taken be gaofang-1
how do you know the chinese millitary does not automatically identify specific targets?
as you said moving on......
The Baidu keeps track. The question is how? The satellite only transmits timestamps. How will it keep track? Does the Baidu satellite have a receiver for receiving signals from a device? Does it have an imaging camera to keep track? How does it 'track' the target?
baidu is a gps satelite. now how does a gps satalite track where you are.lets say your in mumbia and you want to go to dehli and your gps is giving you directions. how does it know where you are. easy the reciever or the thing thats giving your directions. now that is not going to work, as the adversary is not going to have a gps reciever for you to use to sink them! duh i guess. so how does the satalite actually locate where you are. now that comes from the gaofang-1. that finds the target and gives its location to baidu and thenis process and it threat level is assessed and it confirmed via c&c and via library image and then its tracked by image and its current loaction. word out is that there is a satelite thats can do both identyfy and track already up!!! so that removes any comunication compleatly and removes your concerns.
I hope you understand the query we are having now. How does a satellite which only sends out a particular data, track a stationary or mobile device? It is logical for the Gaofeng to track the target and update real-time. Not Baidu.
well to aviod being abrupt i will say i will agree to disagree and move on.
regards
Barak-1 has very small range -less than 15 km..so detecting at lower ranges is not an issue because the missile can't attack beyond a certain range.Barak and harpoon are same generation weapons.PN has had harpoon for yaesr and IN has counted on barak to intercept it.The new generation Barak 8 is a step above this old 80s era missile which USN is now seeking to replace.
i am aware of the barak1 short range but dont you think it range is a weakness in its self. it means the threat is closers and the responce windown is exreamly small. the barak 8 does solve this by being long range but my first post already covers that.
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