Barak-8 is India's answer to Pakistan's Harpoon Anti-Ship Missile

[maxpayne]

Does PN posses any thing to counter anti ship missiles???

LY-60, FM-90

 

[Blue Marlin]

You are getting confused between navigational guidance with homing guidance!!
Google it and read...!

google fish.....

 

[maxpayne]

250km range

Really? How?

CM400AKG Hypersonic Aircraft Carrier Killer.....speed Mach-4+

Barak-8 .....Mach-2......Easy Math.

Sir why are u comparing their speeds? They are not designated to chase anti-ship missiles, rather they hit heads-on!!

 

[Blue Marlin]

The target/device has to transmit data over a medium to another system, so that it can be tracked. Goafen and Baidu can talk what ever they want, but they cannot track a moving object. Goafen can only locate the object at a given point of time and Baidu will give the coordinates. As a ship is a moving target, in minutes the target will be off coordinates and that's it. Baidu cannot do anything and these system cannot track any further.

thats whats the baidu is for, to track the track realtime. the gaofeg is only meant to primary identifying the target. your talking about using satelite imagery and them passing on to the baidu and then on to whomever and the missile will be sent way. which is right to the point that the gps will be providing realtime location. thats what its there for.

if for what ever reason there is not change of realtime tracking then using an image library and the lkl will be enough to engage the target. also if the target is moving, which is obvious it wont be moving fast 30 knots average. now the reaction time, approximate speed, and lkl will be computed for the missile to look for the target at a high enough altitude so it cover the maximum possible distance traveled, and then engage it. thats how older asbm's work, now its all real time as it more efficient and your guarantied a direct hit. and there more space in the warhead as there less computers there.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

A successful missile test on Thursday, in the Mediterranean Sea off the Israeli port of Haifa, is potentially a giant capability leap for Indian and Israeli warships.

Developed jointly by both countries, Israelis refer to the new missile system as the Barak 8, while Indians call it the Long Range Surface to Air Missile (LR-SAM). It protects warships from the weapon that their captains most fear: anti-ship missiles, launched from submarines, ships or aircraft up to 150 kilometres away.

A modern, anti-ship missile like the Harpoon II, which costs less than $2 million, can scuttle a warship worth several hundred million dollars.

The Indian Navy's answer to this is the LR-SAM, which has been described as "an anti-aircraft, anti-missile missile". Its origins lie in the Kargil crisis of 1999, when the navy realised its vulnerability to the Harpoon anti-ship missiles that America had supplied to the otherwise outgunned Pakistan Navy.

To counter the Harpoon, New Delhi approached Tel Aviv for an emergency procurement of its newly developed Barak missiles, which could shoot down incoming Harpoons at a range of ten kilometres.

While impressed with the Barak, the admirals wanted longer-range protection, given the navy's "blue water" ambitions of controlling wide swathes of ocean. Operating as a part of a widely dispersed flotilla, a capital warship (destroyer, frigate or corvette) needed to not just protect itself but to also create a protective "air defence bubble" for smaller accompanying warships.

In January 2006, New Delhi and Tel Aviv agreed to develop a longer-range Barak that could counter anti-ship missiles of the future. New Delhi allocated Rs 2,606 crore to this project, which would enhance engagement ranges seven-fold, to 70 kilometres. Enemy fighter aircraft, which presented significantly larger targets than anti-ship missiles, could be detected and destroyed at longer ranges.

It was agreed that India's Defence R&D Organisation (DRDO) would develop the missile's solid-fuel, two-pulse propulsion motors - 30 per cent of the work share-, while Israel Aerospace Industries would build the rest of the LR-SAM.

Of this, Rs 1,700 crore were for three LR-SAM systems for the new Kolkata-class destroyers that India was building. Meanwhile, Israel planned to fit three systems on its Sa'ar 5 corvettes, its biggest and most advanced warships.

It was one of these corvettes, the Israeli Naval Ship Lahav, which conducted the test on Thursday. This was the first time the LR-SAM was tested on a warship, fully deployed in "combat configuration". The anti-ship missile was simulated by a "pilotless target aircraft" that was racing towards the ship at 500-550 kilometres per hour. This is slower than the Harpoon anti-ship missile which travels at about 865 kmph, and barely half the 1,150 kmph speed of the Exocet anti-ship missile.

A senior defence ministry official described the test to Business Standard. As the pilotless target aircraft flew toward the Lahav, the corvette's MF-STAR radar, the heart of the LR-SAM system, quickly detected it. The MF-STAR (multi-function surveillance, tracking and acquisition radar) can detect targets up to 200 kilometres away, but the actual range at which this test was conducted remains secret.


How it unfolded ::

Strategic affairs website DefenseNews quoted an Israeli official telling reporters that the target was acquired "at a range of more than 20 kilometres but less than 120 kilometres."

Automatically, the MF-STAR began tracking the target, displaying in real time its distance, altitude, direction and velocity on a multi-function display in the ship's operations room - on the LR-SAM's command system.

Meanwhile, an interceptor missile, housed in a canister in the warship, began its pre-launch checks. Within seconds, the LR-SAM's command system had computed engagement scenarios and calculated the impact point, where the outgoing missile would meet and destroy the incoming aircraft - a bullet hitting a bullet.

At the designated nanosecond, the interceptor missile roared out of its canister, engulfing the Lahav's deck in a ball of fire. Quickly gaining supersonic speed, it levelled out and streaked towards the incoming missile, guided by continuous target updates transmitted by the MF-STAR over a data link.

Seven kilometres short of the target, a seeker on-board the missile switched on; now the missile was itself locked onto the target, tracking its manoeuvres. The dual-pulse motor fired again, accelerating the missile that was, by now, merely "coasting". This increased velocity allowed the missile to manoeuvre sharply, keeping up with the target's evasive zigzags - termed "target dynamics".

As the interceptor arrived a few metres from the target, a proximity fuse detonated its 23-kilo high-explosive warhead. This aims to destroy the target or damage it enough to prevent it reaching the mother warship. In Thursday's test, the Israelis claim the proximity fuse was irrelevant, since the interceptor missile directly hit the simulated target. "It was metal on metal," says an Israeli source.

"All the subsystems of the missile performed as predicted and achieved the desired goal of hitting the incoming target," an Indian defence ministry statement corroborated on Friday.


The next step ::

The ministry says the next test will involve the LR-SAM being fired from INS Kolkata. After it is validated in at least three tests, the LR-SAM will be deployed in all the three Kolkata-class destroyers (Project 15-A); four Project 15-B destroyers being constructed in Mazagon Docks; and seven frigates that will soon begin construction in Mazagon and Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers, Kolkata. The LR-SAM will also be installed on INS Vikrant, the indigenous aircraft carrier being built in Kochi.

The Israeli navy, meanwhile, will install the Barak 8 on all three of its Sa'ar 5 corvettes, and four new Sa'ar 6 corvettes that are being built in Germany.

Senior DRDO sources describe working with the Israelis in developing the LR-SAM as "a lesson in professionalism and capable project management". The LR-SAM, which was to be operationalised in October 2012, is running three years late, but DRDO admits this is because of Indian delays in developing the dual-pulse motors, which required developing an entirely new propellant.

Meanwhile, the Indian Air Force, which faces a dire shortfall of capable missile systems to defend Indian airspace, is plugging this gap, courtesy the LR-SAM. In March 2009, it signed a Rs 10,075-crore contract with DRDO for a ground-based version called the Medium Range Surface to Air Missile (MR-SAM).

The contract is for 18 fire units (each equipped with 24 missiles) to be delivered by October 2016. Each fire unit includes radar, three missile launchers, and a command system. "There is 90 per cent commonality between the LR-SAM and the MR-SAM. We are on track to conduct the first full MR-SAM test in the first half of 2016," says a senior DRDO official.

With development of this new generation missile almost complete, the production chain has begun to roll. The missiles are being integrated at state-owned Bharat Dynamics. Several private sector companies, such as Godrej & Boyce and SEC, are parts of the production chain.

"We are doing concurrent production, and have placed orders for sub-systems. A large part of the LR-SAM will be built in India, bringing down costs and increasing our capabilities," says a DRDO official.

This missile production chain is assured of orders for at least the next two to three decades. A missile has a limited shelf life of seven to nine years and, as they complete their service lives and are consumed in training, replacement orders are guaranteed.


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Pakistan is unpredictable and always have a way through an obstacle.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Pakistan is unpredictable and always have a way through an obstacle.

Uu sab to Theek hai.. yaara...but "way thrugh" kaha chala gya tha 1971 n 1999 me..
Bhaiya... its 2015.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Barak-8 speed is Mach 2 whereas CM-400AKG speed is Mach 4

im skeptical on the speed. for a sam mach 2 is pathetic. i though it was in the region of mach 4-5.5. also the cm-400 is classed as hypersonic asm meaning it's terminal speed is mach 5+ or mach 5.5 to be publicly specific

mamoo what you are suggesting is this

what it infact about missile interception is this

ok thats the only time when you can troll, when its funny.

 

[Basel]

Highly unlikely that Pakistan would field an AWACS close to an Indian SAG[Surface Action Group].
Any Indian SAG would have air cover from a Carrier fleet.

No nation brings its AWACS so close to a flotilla if the flotilla has air cover.

Pakistan would have to depend on launching missiles at their maximum detection range(not launch range).

I don't know why the article is making such a big deal - India had Barak SAM system as a point defense system for close to a decade now. Harpoon's et all (subsonic Cruise and Anti-ship missiles) are pretty much covered.

These Barak 8's are for fleet air defense which would be required in a high seas combat scenario. Where the ship protects not just itself but also the entire fleet behind it. And when there are multiple ships with Barak 8 located in the same theater, it forms a potent air screening barrier for a CBG to conduct ops.

Criticism - the Barak 8 has a range of 100kms. The cutting edge of active engagement is now closer to 120-150 kms for AAW.

Pakistan will field AWACS to track IN if you don't believe check out how it was deployed recently in Sea Spark 2015.

Barak 1 is sufficient for all the above. barak 8 is a Differnt game.
Its for Barhmos Itself !

Btw, WTF is "High" Supersonic ? lol

Indians think only they have stuff that works and best. LOL

Its means near hypersonic.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Indians think only they have stuff that works and best. LOL

Its means near hypersonic.

Well, Infact Karachi harbour in 1971 Proved that IN : Works and is THE BEST.
That was WITHOUT Brahmos and Barak 8.

First Build a Destroyer. Then Talk.

 

[Agent_47]

CM400AKG Hypersonic Aircraft Carrier Killer.....speed Mach-4+

Barak-8 .....Mach-2......Easy Math.

CM400AKG is supersonic only in terminal stage.
Nothing special about it, soviets in 60's used the same tech.
Russian and west phased out these type of missiles.
Russian - Kh-22, Kh-15 Mach 4 and 5 respectively.
US - AGM-69

Outdated and Obsolete. Well done by chinese marketing team.

 

[Mrc]

Well how do US plan to track targets for tomahawks new anti ship role at 1500 km?? Using satellites and AWACS
Same can be applied here can v not??

 

[DavidSling]

I'm hoping to see a Barak 8 vs Brahmos test in the near future

 

[Windjammer]

Sir why are u comparing their speeds? They are not designated to chase anti-ship missiles, rather they hit heads-on!!

My dear don't fall for the stupid Indian theory, we are not exactly talking about land or stationary targets where fire is directed East to West and vice versa and it's not as if only the missile carrier will be the target.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Given the small RCS of incoming low flying cruise missiles, anti aircraft missiles are only good as the detecting radar systems. Honestly, I count CIWS and quick reaction short range SAMs as a real counter of cruise missiles.

CIWS is probably the best. No bull shit system.

CM400AKG Hypersonic Aircraft Carrier Killer.....speed Mach-4+

Barak-8 .....Mach-2......Easy Math.

Barak won't chase the missile, so...

incoming missle= 6 mach interception with addition of both velocity.

Besides, what of the bolts holding your missiles on the plane fall off....

 

[Basel]

Really? How?


Sir why are u comparing their speeds? They are not designated to chase anti-ship missiles, rather they hit heads-on!!

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Well, Infact Karachi harbour in 1971 Proved that IN : Works and is THE BEST.
That was WITHOUT Brahmos and Barak 8.

First Build a Destroyer. Then Talk.

Don't troll by brining history, it only will fuel trolling.