Bangladesh will buy 5 warships from Britain.

[khansaheeb]

And this is how it starts.

a. Bangladesh ears FOREX
b. Bangladesh buys Warships
c. Forex returns back to Bank of England
d. Maintenance services provide a continued line of revenue.

We have made all the mistakes and are learning from them... hope bangladesh does better.

Pants and shirts for ships is a good deal.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Bangladesh is actually buying these warships to deploy against Burma..... This is not against India.....

has india approved this purchase?
i am surprised Bangladesh has to buy these ships against Burma.
does India have bad relations woth Burma?

 

[bluesky]

We have made all the mistakes and are learning from them... hope bangladesh does better.

We are a country that has started to manufacture nuts and bolts only recently by a great company called WALTON. So, in the case of procurement of warships and infrastructure building we are following Pakistani examples.

No doubt, BD will be facing the same problems a few years ahead that Pakistan is facing now. The disease is "borrow foreign money and build". BD is unable to manufacture sewing machines. All are imported goods. I am happy that at last, we are producing nuts, bolts and, screws.

Not that bad thinking the past dismal records.

Walton manufacturing world quality nuts, bolts, and screws
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Published: 02:54, 16 January 2018 Update: 15:18, 26 July 2020
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[waz]

Good buy, so what is it Type 26 or the Type 31?
The sanghis will be upset that their 'dharmic' brothers in Burma will be outgunned.

 

[bluesky]

There are plans afoot to build all required types of naval vessels locally. Until such capabilities are attained, imports must continue to maintain and improve operational readiness.

You probably think a warship is just a combination of steel cutting, welding, and painting. BD shipyards can certainly do these jobs.

But how about machines to operate or communicate? And how about manufacturing the following? Can BD produce them?

Anchors, Bunkers, Cranes, Engines, main and auxiliary Fire safety, Grounding, communication equipment, Hatch covers, Lifeboats, Marine boilers, Watertight doors, etc., etc. as well as guns, missiles, and radar equipment.

 

[Avicenna]

Good buy, so what is it Type 26 or the Type 31?
The sanghis will be upset that their 'dharmic' brothers in Burma will be outgunned.

I don't think anyone reliably knows the details.

Regardless of the actual platforms, the politics of it all is so interesting.

I wouldn't be surprised to see old Type 23 as a stopgap before any Type 31.

Also, is this the "indigenous" frigate project or in addition too?

A lot of questions.

But it provides excellent food for thought for this thread.

 

[Destranator]

You probably think a warship is just a combination of steel cutting, welding, and painting. BD shipyards can certainly do these jobs.

But how about machines to operate or communicate? And how about manufacturing the following? Can BD produce them?

Anchors, Bunkers, Cranes, Engines, main and auxiliary Fire safety, Grounding, communication equipment, Hatch covers, Lifeboats, Marine boilers, Watertight doors, etc., etc. as well as guns, missiles, and radar equipment.

It would be great to be able to build all that but let's take baby steps first and build some frigate hulls - for a country that lacks industrial sophistication, building hulls alone is a big achievement as it would bring down unit and maintenance costs and speed up delivery significantly.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

I wouldn't be surprised to see old Type 23 as a stopgap before any Type 31.

Also, is this the "indigenous" frigate project or in addition too?

Yes maybe Type-23 to replace some of the older frigates + type-31 or maybe this is a deal for other types of vessels ?

i would have wanted an Italo-French design but you have live within your means i guess.

 

[Avicenna]

Bangladesh to buy 5 naval ships from UK

Bangladesh will buy five naval ships from the UK to modernise the armed forces as part of the Forces Goal 2030 as the country aspires to become a developed nation by 2041.

www.thedailystar.net

Interesting.

Bangladesh to buy 5 naval ships from UK
Says foreign minister

Sun Nov 7, 2021 12:00 AM

Bangladesh will buy five naval ships from the UK to modernise the armed forces as part of the Forces Goal 2030 as the country aspires to become a developed nation by 2041.
"We have decided in principle to buy five naval ships. The objectives of this purchase is to monitor and protect our huge sea frontiers from others who enter our territories for fishing or other purposes," Foreign Minister AK Abdul Momen told this correspondent from London yesterday.

The issue was discussed at a bilateral meeting between Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina and her UK counterpart Boris Johnson on the sidelines of COP26 in Glasgow on Wednesday.
The British premier proposed selling other defence equipment, including aircraft, said Momen.

"The negotiation went on for a long time. This time, we agreed in principle to buy five naval ships. Three of those will be imported from the UK and the two others will be built in our dockyard in Chattogram."
The minister said the final deal on the procurement is yet to be signed. "Our Ministry of Defence will be working on it. We will surely buy the ships at a competitive price."
The development comes at a time when the Indo-Pacific region is drawing more global attention.

There is already the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, known as the QUAD, a strategic dialogue between the United States, India, Japan and Australia, which analysts say is aimed at countering China.
Moreover, Australia, the United Kingdom and the United States announced on September 15 a security pact called AUKUS for the Indo-Pacific region. Under the pact, the US and the UK will help Australia acquire nuclear-powered submarines.
Momen said Bangladesh and the UK have a solid relationship which is growing day by day -- be it in the areas of development, trade and politics.

Earlier on October 14, Type 23 frigate HMS Kent of the UK's Carrier Strike Group deployment (CSG21) sailed to the naval base in Chattogram marking the celebration of Bangladesh's Golden Jubilee of independence and highlighting the historic bilateral defence connections and people-to-people relationship between the UK and Bangladesh.

HMS Kent engaged in a series of events with the Bangladesh Navy and the local administration in Chattogram to maximise bilateral relations benefitting both countries' military, trade, and political alliances.
"This year, with the spirit of Brit Bangla Bondhon, the UK is demonstrating the depth and significance of UK-Bangla ties through its commitment to engage more with Bangladesh as a partner of sustainable peace and growth," the UK High Commission in Dhaka said in a statement on October 18.

British High Commissioner Robert Chatterton Dickson said the welcoming of the frigate builds on a long history of defence cooperation that the UK is extremely proud of.
"We are committed to deepening our cooperation as a key part of the enduring relationship between our two countries."
According to the statement, a significant number of Bangladesh Navy personnel have trained alongside the Royal Navy in the UK, including at the Royal College of Defence Studies.

 

[khansaheeb]

Don't worry, you'll get your top of the line trainer very soon !
By the way does anybody know what is expected cost for each of these warships to be built by UK ?

Cost isn't important it is the commissions that matter to Bangladeshi officials.

 

[Avicenna]

Cost isn't important it is the commissions that matter to Bangladeshi officials.

Bangladeshi officials aren't alone in that regard wouldn't you say?

From the public available info, it appears that AT LEAST 2 will be new builds and will be done in Bangladesh.

So most likely at least 2 Type 031.

Also there was this:

MBDA Keen To Supply Air Defence Missiles To Bangladesh Armed Forces

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defence.pk

This gonna be good.

As @UKBengali said, hopefully its CAMM-ER.

 

[bluesky]

It would be great to be able to build all that but let's take baby steps first and build some frigate hulls - for a country that lacks industrial sophistication, building hulls alone is a big achievement as it would bring down unit and maintenance costs and speed up delivery significantly.

Yah!!! Baby-stepping has been already continuing for a few decades. So, how many centuries do you think it will take when BD people would be producing all the needed components?

Thanks to WALTON at last it is a company that is now producing nuts, bolts, and screws!! So, for now, this is our level of production of technology goods.

 

[Destranator]

Yah!!! Baby-stepping has been already continuing for a few decades. So, how many centuries do you think it will take when BD people would be producing all the needed components?

Thanks to WALTON at last it is a company that is now producing nuts, bolts, and screws!! So, for now, this is our level of production of technology goods.

Look we both agree that BD lacks industrialisation. We just do not need to bring it up in every thread.

 

[khansaheeb]

Will Bangladesh be adding it's own anti-sub electronics and ECM ? Zions in UK certainly wont want to upset their Nazi Indian friends to give Bangladesh Navy any teeth.

Type 26


Type 31:-

 

[Genghis khan1]

Look we both agree that BD lacks industrialisation. We just do not need to bring it up in every thread.

Issue with most S.Asian countries isn’t just industrialization, it is infact lack of R&D. R&D requires constant flow of money into Higher level education and research institute. It’s hard to justify such spend when the first potential market (country armed forces or local businesses itself) jump to buy the exported toy instead of forcing local R&D and industry to catch up to established companies players in field.

China is a good example, 30 year ago they were building barely marginal stuff. Today, they are leading the world in research and development.