Bangladesh to hounour Indira Gandhi for her support in 1971 war

[HariSeldon]

well i didnt know the army had lost all 1971 documents. please provide a neutral link to back up the claim.

we didnt need a pretext to arm and train mukthi bahini. we could have shut our borders and still continued arming the mukthi bahini. remember this was 1970s. everyone knew Pakistan was our enemy and whether we had a pretext to arm Mukthi Bahini or not, wouldn't have made a difference. The refugee problem was a reason for direct intervention, not a reason for arming Mukthi Bahini


And after that, we could have just sat back and watched Pakistanis tear each other apart. we could have let it just drag on. And let East Pakistan pull all of pakistan down. that would have been the most effective and efficient way to hurt Pakistan, if that was our sole aim.

Instead we spend our money and sacrificed our soldiers to intervene, so that more innocents don't die. and in the process we actually did Pakistan a favour. we ended their civil war. if we had decided to wait a year before stepping in, it would have caused way more damage to both sides, and less damage to us (since Pak military would have been weaker).

Well all the trouble was in E. PK only. W.PK was insultated. So even if those conditions were to drag on for year, chances were that PA will get upper hand against Mukti Bahini. Also, world powers might have intervened in the mean time. There was talk going on to depute UN ppl on IN-E.PK border area as PK was complaining abt cross border ops by IA.

 

[INS]

1) Indira Gandhi was reponsible for directing RAW to fund, train and arm CHT insurgency. As a result thousanda of Bangladeshi and army lost their life.

2) Indira Gandhi is the one who directed indian navy to occupy Bangladeshi Island of south Talpatti.

3) Indira Gandhi is know to have directed assasination of Bangladesh president Ziaur Rahman.

Now, Awami stooges honoring Indira Gandhi will further expose their support for Indira Gandhi's action against Bangladesh and Bangladeshis. And its proves beyond saying Awami regime is dedicated to be indian stooge.

but i think Bangladesh become free because of Indian support otherwise thousand of Bangladeshi killed every day by ................

 

[toppys]

but i think Bangladesh become free because of Indian support otherwise thousand of Bangladeshi killed every day by ................

we escaped from facing threat of war on two fronts by creation of bangladesh. Bangladeshis won their independence with the least bloodshed. We both benefited from this deal. Otherwise defeating a professional army is not an easy task nor facing war on two fronts.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

well i didnt know the army had lost all 1971 documents. please provide a neutral link to back up the claim.

we didnt need a pretext to arm and train mukthi bahini. we could have shut our borders and still continued arming the mukthi bahini. remember this was 1970s. everyone knew Pakistan was our enemy and whether we had a pretext to arm Mukthi Bahini or not, wouldn't have made a difference. The refugee problem was a reason for direct intervention, not a reason for arming Mukthi Bahini


And after that, we could have just sat back and watched Pakistanis tear each other apart. we could have let it just drag on. And let East Pakistan pull all of pakistan down. that would have been the most effective and efficient way to hurt Pakistan, if that was our sole aim.

Instead we spend our money and sacrificed our soldiers to intervene, so that more innocents don't die. and in the process we actually did Pakistan a favour. we ended their civil war. if we had decided to wait a year before stepping in, it would have caused way more damage to both sides, and less damage to us (since Pak military would have been weaker).

India destroys records of 1971 war

India destroys records of 1971 war

Actually India was sponsoring the East Pakistan secessionist movement from the 1960's. It started its covert operations against East Pakistan around 1963. You Indians don't even know your own history.

 

[toppys]

India destroys records of 1971 war

India destroys records of 1971 war

Actually India was sponsoring the East Pakistan secessionist movement from the 1960's. It started its covert operations against East Pakistan around 1963. You Indians don't even know your own history.

That may be attributed to heavy sleeping in history class

 

[mjnaushad]

What she did in 1971 is called cross border terrorism modern vocabulary. Its like someone hounour Ajmal Kasaab.

 

[toppys]

What she did in 1971 is called cross border terrorism modern vocabulary. Its like someone hounour Ajmal Kasaab.

comparison should have been with sardari. Only if he had a clue...

 

[Guynextdoor]

India destroys records of 1971 war

India destroys records of 1971 war

Actually India was sponsoring the East Pakistan secessionist movement from the 1960's. It started its covert operations against East Pakistan around 1963. You Indians don't even know your own history.

We'll do whatever we want with our war records. What's your business in this?

 

[HariSeldon]

India destroys records of 1971 war

India destroys records of 1971 war

Actually India was sponsoring the East Pakistan secessionist movement from the 1960's. It started its covert operations against East Pakistan around 1963. You Indians don't even know your own history.

And which IN agency was doing this? And that to under LBS?
And while we were able to to ops in E.PK we had no clue abt ops gibraltor and grandslam. Now thats streching it too far.

What next, IN rigged election in PK in favour of Bangbandhu. IN was behind the conspiracy to deny what BB deserved?

 

[HariSeldon]

What she did in 1971 is called cross border terrorism modern vocabulary. Its like someone hounour Ajmal Kasaab.

Only if you can turn blind eye to what your leader like YK and PA did to E. PK in '71. Defending them is like defending Khmer Rouge.

 

[Guynextdoor]

No actually the refugees were a pretext and a means to train,arm and infiltrate East Pakistan. Why do you think your army has lost all the 1971 war documents. You Indians have a lot to hide.

Easy for you to shoot your mouth off. It wasn't your money on the line isn't it?
(As far as taking care of the refugees are concerned). We stepped in to create Bangladesh for one paramount reason...it was cheaper. It also proved to be stable, long term solutions- the new state so created largely minded it's own business and has generally never really created issues for the international community as a whole (not just india). On the whole a decent neighbor to have (despite pesky conspiracy theorists like you)

 

[Al-zakir]

Why not declare BD as slave territory of Bharat? Get this **** over with.

 

[KingOfGods]

Why not declare BD as slave territory of Bharat? Get this **** over with.

Calm down brother. That's not our intention. It never did, never does, and never will be..........We all Indian respect Bangladsh as sovereign country; but as you love your country, we also do. So no bashing plz.

 

[su-47]

Well all the trouble was in E. PK only. W.PK was insultated. So even if those conditions were to drag on for year, chances were that PA will get upper hand against Mukti Bahini. Also, world powers might have intervened in the mean time. There was talk going on to depute UN ppl on IN-E.PK border area as PK was complaining abt cross border ops by IA.

any civil war will cost dearly, and thats a fact. if we just let it drag on, W.P might have gained the upper hand, but they would have suffered a lot more. It would have cost them a lot to transport men and materials to E.P to conduct military operations. Also, once the number of body bags returning to W.P increases, there would have been widespread public opposition to the war.

Also, international intervention was nowhere in sight. W.P was butchering Bangladeshis for a considerable time without anyone doing anything.

The point is, if hurting Pak was the ONLY aim we had in mind, we didnt have to do anything, except arm and train Mukthi Bahini. we could have just kept it going till either side won. Its because of our humanity that we let in refugees and we actively interfered and martyred our soldiers.

India destroys records of 1971 war

India destroys records of 1971 war

Actually India was sponsoring the East Pakistan secessionist movement from the 1960's. It started its covert operations against East Pakistan around 1963. You Indians don't even know your own history.

ok, i didnt know abotu the army destroying the docs. but even then, it doesnt prove that Bangladesh surrendered its sovereignity to India. It just proves India did not want to get the secrets of training Mukthi Bahini out. The reason is ambiguous. We can only assume.

so now you are saying that east pakistan wanted independence due to indian influence, not due to west pakistan's apathy towards the East after cyclone Bhola or the massacres carried out by the West Pakistan army? seems like you are someone who didn't support the independence movement. if thats the case, there is no way either of us can reach an agreement or mutual understanding with this debate.

 

[Guynextdoor]

You will not like it if start using same kind of flowery language for your leaders..and we just might start at the beginning!!

And May I add 'martial' leaders like Ayub Khan, Yahaya Khan, Zulfikar Ali Bhutoo (Some of them even had mustaches). They really had their people fooled didn't they?

And how long did it take for IG to finish them 8 days. Just imagine that...starts today and by the end of next week it's over. Hell that must burn.