Bangladesh targets 7.8% economic growth in new fiscal year

[N.Siddiqui]

If the traffic jam and rickshaw were taken care of, none of PK cities can match Dhaka today.

Actually it is the cycle Rickshaws and the people who pulls them makes the B'deshi's cities beautiful...peculiar to Bangladesh.

 

[Khan_21]

Well my mistake.....it is actually 46 km.....I was reading the length was given as 46730..didn't notice it was in meters. My bad.

Your roads are laughable. We already have 1100 KM of 6 lane expressways. Including one which is 4500 feet above sea level. There is no count of how much 4 lane we have though.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Where? Please name one operational hotel in Lahore under a global hospitality brand.

Don't cherry pick and stop shifting the goal posts...


It is like we saying Bangladesh doesn't have the Serena Chains of Hotels which Pakistan have...there are obvious reasons for it.

or like Pakistanis saying Avari Chain of international hotels which are present in Pakistan and which is not present in Bangladesh...so it suggests that they are not giving importance to B'desh...Childish, isn't it.


Holiday Inn is present in Lahore, Best Western is there...Serena intl's is opening shortly(bldg completed)

Avari Lahore was earlier Hilton Lahore, Pearl Continental Lahore(services group) bought up the Inter Continental Lahore...

 

[Species]

Don't cherry pick and stop shifting the goal posts...


It is like we saying Bangladesh doesn't have the Serena Chains of Hotels which Pakistan have...there are obvious reasons for it.

or like Pakistanis saying Avari Chain of international hotels which are present in Pakistan and which is not present in Bangladesh...so it suggests that they are not giving importance to B'desh...Childish, isn't it.

Now what the heck are you talking about?

Are you really able to understand even a word of my posts?

 

[Khan_21]

No, it can't be, because I don't have access to any empirical evidence if they really satisfy the criteria of a 5 star hotel or are based on the same standards that we follow. This is why I mentioned 'international chain hotel' to have a comparison based on close to uniform standards. We have our share of local hospitality brands but that would be pointless if I try to compare their hotels with other countries.

Feel free to post as many pics as you want, just don't tag me, don't want to waste my time anymore in this thread.



That reminded me of a classic Russel Peter gag.

No idea what mistake you are talking about, I was pretty clear with my post and made the claim after carefully going through the sources since it was not the first time I interacted with that troll Khan21 discussing same topic.

You failed to comprehend or refute my post, that's your fault.



Lol.

Cant make a decent place to live for its middle class so resorts to pointing at hotels at vacation spots.

Any foreign brand that comes to south asia comes to Pakistan first. Uber came here before it came to your country. Mcdonalds and KFC are here since 1997. We have all the luxury car brand dealerships AUDI , Jaguar , Porsche came here much before than BD(I doubt if you guys have any market for luxury cars).

 

[bête noire]

Don't cherry pick and stop shifting the goal posts...


It is like we saying Bangladesh doesn't have the Serena Chains of Hotels which Pakistan have...there are obvious reasons for it.

or like Pakistanis saying Avari Chain of international hotels which are present in Pakistan and which is not present in Bangladesh...so it suggests that they are not giving importance to B'desh...Childish, isn't it.

It IS surprising though. I didn't know not a single international hotel chains thought Lahore was important enough. Funnily enough, I never knew BD had so many in comparison to Pakistan before joining PDF and going through the troll khan's posts in other threads (not this one). I wonder why international hotel chains do not build their hotels in Pakistan? Most importantly, not a single one in Lahore. I honestly never thought that was possible!

Actually it is the cycle Rickshaws and the people who pulls them makes the B'deshi's cities beautiful...peculiar to Bangladesh.

One thing I like about them is that they are eco friendly. But every other things about them are cons for a capital city (or any city).

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Now what the heck are you talking about?

Are you really able to understand even a word of my posts?

The only difference in intl's Chains of hotels in Dacca and Lahore or say in B'desha and Pakistan is that there principals are different, the Pakistan range of 5 star hotels are owned by the local biz groups and they are international brands though lesser presence in the world as Hilton and Sheraton are behemoths.


It doesn't mean intl's brand of 5 star hotels are not present here.

A 5 star Hilton in Dacca and a 5 star Avari(earlier Hilton ) in Lahore have the same standards as 5 star ratings are given by intl's agencies. So your useless argument holds no water and not worth the salt. Earlier you have written that Lhr roads are empty knowing well the car sales in Pakistan is 10 times that of B'desh...so don't come up with idiotic blabbering time and again.

It IS surprising though. I didn't know not a single international hotel chains thought Lahore was important enough. Funnily enough, I never knew BD had so many in comparison to Pakistan before joining PDF and going through the troll khan's posts in other threads (not this one). I wonder why international hotel chains do not build their hotels in Pakistan? Most importantly, not a single one in Lahore. I honestly never thought that was possible!

Here it goes...replied umpteenth times. Reposting. Also check my last comment to Species.

I was about to point the same thing to Mr @Species but restrained myself, thought that would be useless?? Good that you did it...

So according to his @Species logic only American chain hotels like Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt so on and so forth are international and local Pakistani conglomerate running 5 star hotels like Avari's, Hashwnanis, Mansha's and add to this the Agha khanis are not international, even though the hotels have presence in other countries as well and all of them are 5 star as well.


Dumbest of logic and without any reason. Just like his comment about the empty roads in Lahore...didn't realized car sales in Pakistan is about 10 times compared to Bangladesh, this is a year to 2 year old figure...so much for the logic and thinking.

 

[Khan_21]

If the traffic jam and rickshaw were taken care of, none of PK cities can match Dhaka today.

How so ? Your cities are much dirtier than ours with really bad local governments that cant be bothered by cleaning up the cities. Do they have BRT's? Do they have better road infrastructure? Our Orange line train is almost complete. Do they have better universities? Even if you remove traffic and jams from your roads none of your cities come close.

The only difference in intl's Chains of hotels in Dacca and Lahore or say in B'desha and Pakistan is that there principals are different, the Pakistan range of 5 star hotels are owned by the local biz groups and they are international brands though lesser presence in the world as Hilton and Sheraton are behemoths.


It doesn't mean intl's brand of 5 star hotels are not present here.

A 5 star Hilton in Dacca and a 5 star Avari(earlier Hilton ) in Lahore have the same standards as 5 star ratings are given by intl's agencies. So your useless argument holds no water and not worth the salt. Earlier you have written that Lhr roads are empty knowing well the car sales in Pakistan is 10 times that of B'desh...so don't come up with idiotic blabbering time and again.




Here it goes...replied umpteenth times. Reposting. Also check my last comment to Species.

I was about to point the same thing to Mr @Species but restrained myself, thought that would be useless?? Good that you did it...

So according to his @Species logic only American chain hotels like Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt so on and so forth are international and local Pakistani conglomerate running 5 star hotels like Avari's, Hashwnanis, Mansha's and add to this the Agha khanis are not international, even though the hotels have presence in other countries as well and all of them are 5 star as well.


Dumbest of logic and without any reason. Just like his comment about the empty roads in Lahore...didn't realized car sales in Pakistan is about 10 times compared to Bangladesh, this is a year to 2 year old figure...so much for the logic and thinking.

I dont even know what is their annual car production. Must be low like any other index that involves production or consumption. They only are only capable of making t shirts and underwears and then exporting them throughout the world.

 

[Species]

Cant make a decent place to live for its middle class so resorts to pointing at hotels at vacation spots.

Any foreign brand that comes to south asia comes to Pakistan first. Uber came here before it came to your country. Mcdonalds and KFC are here since 1997. We have all the luxury car brand dealerships AUDI , Jaguar , Porsche came here much before than BD(I doubt if you guys have any market for luxury cars).

Take a look at the post of this kiddo above. @Mage @Homo Sapiens @UKBengali @Bilal9 @Ashik Mahmud @shourov323

Now imagine, a rickshaw-wala standing near you and claiming, "I own a large palace with a garage full of bugattis."

Tell me, which one seems funnier. I bet, the above post will beat the rickshaw-wala hands down.

 

[Khan_21]

Take a look at the post of this kiddo above. @Mage @Homo Sapiens @UKBengali @Bilal9 @Ashik Mahmud @shourov323

Now imagine, a rickshaw-wala standing near you and claiming, "I own a large palace with a garage full of bugattis."

Tell me, which one seems funnier. I bet, the above post will beat the rickshaw-wala hands down.

Seems better than living in a shady looking one bedroom apartment overlooking thousands of people wearing lungis.

 

[Species]

It IS surprising though. I didn't know not a single international hotel chains thought Lahore was important enough. Funnily enough, I never knew BD had so many in comparison to Pakistan before joining PDF and going through the troll khan's posts in other threads (not this one). I wonder why international hotel chains do not build their hotels in Pakistan? Most importantly, not a single one in Lahore. I honestly never thought that was possible!

Pakistan doesn't seem to be a prospective market for the global hospitality brands. Entire Pakistan has 4/5 operational hotels under global brands. Even if you follow the current growth and expansion of international hotel chains, Pakistan hardly comes into the radar. I guess security is the main issue for them apart from lack of demand.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

.Bangladesh is just 17% of the size of Pakistan so no hope for that long road even if it crisscrosses the country. A tiny puny country...with matching egos opposite of it.

Your habitable areas are not much bigger than Bangladesh.Deduct all those deserts, rugged mountains which has little or no value for settlement or economic activities, Pakistan will come to the Bangladesh size. Why do you think your 55 percent population is concentrated in Punjab which has less than 1/4th of Pakistan's surface area?

 

[Gibbs]

CGI-stronk!!!

"I HAVE YOU ON PERMA IGNORE OK?...HONEST!!!!!"...cept when I don't...coz butthurt.

@Gibbs @madokafc @Aung Zaya

2030 !!!! Extra Stronk !!!

 

[bête noire]

Your roads are laughable. We already have 1100 KM of 6 lane expressways. Including one which is 4500 feet above sea level. There is no count of how much 4 lane we have though.

I don't think anyone doubts PK is ahead in infrastructure nor is it surprising. We overtook PK in GDP per capita less than 1 year ago but PK was ahead of us for a long time. And most of that time PK was ahead, it had far better economy. So you had money to build the infra and build up wealth for long time culminating over time where a Pakistani have double wealth of what a Bangladeshi have. However, since we took over per capita and trends continue the way it is, which is highly likely, I believe BD will match Pakistani wealth in a decade and pass PK at incredible rate going forward.

However, what is not up for debate and paints a rather pathetic picture on Pakistan is other important indicators that shows how well the general populace of a country truly live. Pakistan has so much more wealth, better infrastructure and so on, on economic front for half a century and yet it sucks compared to BD on literacy rate, infant mortality rate, life expectancy, homicide, gender equality, fertility rate and literally every HDI parameters where Pakistan barely is in middle category. Why does Pakistan do so bad in this even though you have had more prosperity to counter these and easily do better than BD?

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Pakistan doesn't seem to be a prospective market for the global hospitality brands. Entire Pakistan has 4/5 operational hotels under global brands. Even if you follow the current growth and expansion of international hotel chains, Pakistan hardly comes into the radar. I guess security is the main issue for them.

Juvenile...the main reason is global hospitality chain comes up with their own terms and conditions, using the franchise name and they take almost all the profit...this is the main reason, Local(Pakistanis) bigwigs won't let this happen and won't enter into an agreement with a big global name just to get the prestige and no value and no money and profit.


Why does India have the Taj's, Oberoi, The Leela Palaces, the Lodhis as there are big business conglomerates to built, own and run them, In Bangladesh there aren't many it seems notwithstanding some RMG's Moguls and they are not interested in hospitality industry...for obvious reasons.


Similarly Pakistan have big conglomerates like Hashwanis(Marriott and Pearl Continental), Avaris, they are Parsis(Avari hotels), Mansha's(Nishat 5 star boutique hotels) they are new entrants. Aghan Khan(Serena hotels).

If Bangladesh has no local international Chain of hotels than don't blame it on Pakistan as there are few takers. It actually shows the strength of local big biz groups in Pakistan.