Bangladesh Sizes Up Typhoons for Fighter Requirement

[_NOBODY_]

I do not believe tranche 4 is going to cost twice as much as the latest F16, however do believe EFT can best block 70 in air-to-air scenario even with 3 or 4 times numerical disadvantage....

I am speaking strictly in terms of A2A. EFT can only best the F-16 if both sides have the same number of jets and pilots on both sides.

It is simply faster, can look down at the air theatre and release its weapons packages before F16 will know its there.... by the time F16 sees meteors coming at it EFT has left the theatre.

You do realise that EFT won't be launching Meteor at maximum effective range. The maximum effective range is only achievable if the launcher aircraft is flying at a high altitude and at speed without being affected by ECM. In a rear engagement against fleeing aircraft at high speed, the effective range would be greatly reduced to less than 15Nm. Both EFT and F-16 will be launching their BVR missiles(Meteor for EFT and AIM-120D for F-16) at a range of 80 miles or less.

 

[mb444]

I am speaking strictly in terms of A2A. EFT can only best the F-16 if both sides have the same number of jets and pilots on both sides.

You do realise that EFT won't be launching Meteor at maximum effective range. The maximum effective range is only achievable if the launcher aircraft is flying at a high altitude and at speed without being affected by ECM. In a rear engagement against fleeing aircraft at high speed, the effective range would be greatly reduced to less than 15Nm. Both EFT and F-16 will be launching their BVR missiles(Meteor for EFT and AIM-120D for F-16) at a range of 80 miles or less.

Your scenario is interesting and i see the logic in what you say. But EFT is still faster...a lot faster than F16 and potential IAF F16s would have significantly shorter loitering time over BD skies. I would contend that EFT would get better of F16 at a numerical disadvantage within BD scenario.

 

[_NOBODY_]

Your scenario is interesting and i see the logic in what you say. But EFT is still faster...a lot faster than F16 and potential IAF F16s would have significantly shorter loitering time over BD skies. I would contend that EFT would get better of F16 at a numerical disadvantage within BD scenario.

Luckily non of your enemies possess F-16s especially not the latest blocks. My comparison was originally for a Turkish member who wanted EFTs for TUAF. Also as far as I know AESA radar isn't operational in Typhoon, can anyone confirm if that is still the case?

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Also as far as I know AESA radar isn't operational in Typhoon, can anyone confirm if that is still the case?

Kuwaiti ones do

 

[_NOBODY_]

Kuwaiti ones do

Can you kindly provide some evidence for it?

 

[INS_Vikrant]

Its a very risky procurement with the British and Americans tied at the hip.
The British with their calculated wokeness might come to bite you in the a.., as BD is not a big market like china, where the British give lip service to human rights and business continues as usual.
Expect sanctions on the jets and spares at the most inconvenient time.

That's the main reason India chose Rafale over EFT, France has been a much reliable defense partner. Biggest example of that came during Nuclear Test in 98 they were the only major country other than Russia who didn't condemned or imposed sanctions on us.

 

[_NOBODY_]

That's the main reason India chose Rafale over EFT, France has been a much reliable defense partner. Biggest example of that came during Nuclear Test in 98 they were the only major country other than Russia who didn't condemned or imposed sanctions on us.

There are many other reasons as well such as the lack of a naval version of the EFT.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Good choice by bangladesh. It is very potent fighter. It has best safety record & low maintenance fighter. One of the best BVR fighter with top notch STOL performance.

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Can you kindly provide some evidence for it?

CAPTOR-E radar on EFT for Kuwait

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https://world.eurofighter.com/articles/eurofighter-for-kuwait#:~:text=Kuwait%E2%80%99s%20Eurofighter%20Typhoons%20will%20be%20the%20most%20advanced,technology%20when%20the%20aircraft%20will%20enter%20into%20service.

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Eurofighter Captor-E Radar - Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) nose radar for combat aircraft Eurofighter | HENSOLDT

TheEurofighter’s new generation Captor-E radar is based on AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) technology and will significantly enhance the capabilities and survivability of the Eurofighter.

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Eurofighter Typhoon | Captor-E AESA radar

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[mb444]

That's the main reason India chose Rafale over EFT, France has been a much reliable defense partner. Biggest example of that came during Nuclear Test in 98 they were the only major country other than Russia who didn't condemned or imposed sanctions on us.

You have hot borders with two nuclear neighbours. Rafale has better air to ground capacity than EFT that you need. It fitted your need for all round capacity not only air supremacy.

In BD scenario EFT is better as we need air supremacy fighers to enforce operational denial to IAF and MAF. BD is not going to attack either neighbours, it seeks to simply command its sovereign air space.

 

[_NOBODY_]

You have hot borders with two nuclear neighbours. Rafale has better air to ground capacity than EFT that you need. It fitted your need for all round capacity not only air supremacy.

In BD scenario EFT is better as we need air supremacy fighers to enforce operational denial to IAF and MAF. BD is not going to attack either neighbours, it seeks to simply command its sovereign air space.

Why would Bangladesh fight India? Is there any dispute that I am not aware of?

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

Good choice by bangladesh. It is very potent fighter. It has best safety record & low maintenance fighter. One of the best BVR fighter with top notch STOL performance.

nothing is confirmed. the chances of rafale are higher. See the recent Indonesian purchase

 

[mb444]

Why would Bangladesh fight India? Is there any dispute that I am not aware of?

It would not. My point is BAF aim is to achive air supremacy within its territory for which it needs fighter that specialises in air to air combat.

BD need for air to ground is comparatively a lesser need, as such EFT is a better jet for BAF.

BD does not have an aggressive posture but conceivably the only countries it will fight is india or burma. Thats just a geographic reality hence why i mentioned india.

 

[Bilal9]

That's the main reason India chose Rafale over EFT, France has been a much reliable defense partner. Biggest example of that came during Nuclear Test in 98 they were the only major country other than Russia who didn't condemned or imposed sanctions on us.

No - Rafale was chosen ONLY (and ONLY) because Macron (and generally the French) are heavily anti-Muslim. Modi knows who his anti-Muslim collaborators are. End of discussion.

Why would Bangladesh fight India? Is there any dispute that I am not aware of?

The stand is not offensive but defensive. And like always, one has to PREPARE for both eventualities, regardless of where the events turn.

A sea-lane blockage in Bay of Bengal by India is a definite possibility, for example, worst case scenario. We have to ensure that Indian Navy and Govt. realizes what is at stake if they try it.

 

[Super Falcon]

For air to air combat EF has edge over rafa