Bangladesh sacrifices UNSC candidacy to support Japan

[Jay12345]

That isn't "1" ethnicity but several ethnicities .. From all part of india.... And make about 8% of our population.

Exactly this

 

[ExtraOdinary]

I am correct... punjabis make up the majority of Pakistan 45 percent where as Ethnical Urdu speaking population only make up 8 percent.

Correct, but do tell me how many expatriates/immigrants from both India and Pak interact in the Punjabi language

 

[Jay12345]

Correct, but do tell me how many expatriates/immigrants from both India and Pak interact in the Punjabi language

So if I'm correct why'd you say I wasn't initially. Not good to backtrack

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I am correct... punjabis make up the majority of Pakistan 45 percent. Don't know what your talking about.

Percentage of population who are ethnically Urdu is only 8 percent

In Pakistan .. You are a punjabi based upon your domicile... Can you even imagine a Marathi chief minister in indian punjab? Nope..

Unlike India .. We have ppl from all other provinces living in Punjab .. Southern Punjab is dominated by Baluch and Pakhtuns (who have been living there dice centuries)..

Several Pashtuns n Baluch have been the CM's & Governors of Punjab ..



Potohar has Pashtuns n hindkou and pothohari speaking Pakhtuns .. Who have been living there since centuries ...

And so on.

Correct, but do tell me how many expatriates/immigrants from both India and Pak interact in the Punjabi language

Most Pak Britishs in UK are from Azad Kashmir .. Specially Mirpur region ..

 

[ExtraOdinary]

So if I'm correct why'd you say I wasn't initially. Not good to backtrack

And go back to my original statement/s, read it again and tell me what factual inaccuracies you find in it, and then tell me what did I backtrack on

In Pakistan .. You are a punjabi based upon your domicile... Can you even imagine a Marathi chief minister in indian punjab? Nope..

Unlike India .. We have ppl from all other provinces living in Punjab .. Southern Punjab is dominated by Baluch and Pakhtuns (who have been living there dice centuries)..

Several Pashtuns n Baluch have been the CM's & Governors of Punjab ..



Potohar has Pashtuns n hindkou and pothohari speaking Pakhtuns .. Who have been living there since centuries ...

And so on.



Most Pak Britishs in UK are from Azad Kashmir .. Specially Mirpur region ..

I know . Natives of the Potohar plateau, British govt incentivised immigration in 60's and 70's for people displaced by the Mangla dam.

 

[Jay12345]

And go back to my original statement/s, read it again and tell me what factual inaccuracies you find in it, and then tell me what did I backtrack on


I know . Natives of the Potohar plateau, British govt incentivised immigration in 60's and 70's for people displaced by the Mangla dam.

Ok... I said majority of Pakistanis are punjabis ethnically. You popped out like a superhero saying I'm wrong and there's another major ethnicity Implying Urdu . I showed you the figures regarding ethnically punjabis and Urdu speakers 45vs 8. . After that you said I'm correct punjabis are the majority.
That's called backtracking my friend to first say I'm wrong then to say I'm right after figures are provided

 

[Jay12345]

BTW, going offtopic (as if it would make a difference), this is BD national airlines:

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Ok... I said majority of Pakistanis are punjabis ethnically. You popped out like a superhero saying I'm wrong and there's another major ethnicity Implying Urdu . I showed you the figures regarding ethnically punjabis and Urdu speakers 45vs 8. . After that you said I'm correct punjabis are the majority.
That's called backtracking my friend

No dear, in post #61 you say:
"Majority of overlap between Indians and Pakistanis are Punjabis". Now let us do some calculations:

8% of Pakistani population are the Urdu/Hindustani language speakers= 14.4 million
45% of Pakistani population is Punjabi= 81 million
Population of Punjabis in India= 27.9 million
Population of Hindi/Hindustani language in India= 350-400 million (Bihar, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Haryana and Delhi)

Now tell me which one is the major overlap

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

And go back to my original statement/s, read it again and tell me what factual inaccuracies you find in it, and then tell me what did I backtrack on


I know . Natives of the Potohar plateau, British govt incentivised immigration in 60's and 70's for people displaced by the Mangla dam.

Mirpur is in AJK not in Potohar ..

No dear, in post #61 you say:
"Majority of overlap between Indians and Pakistanis are Punjabis". Now let us do some calculations:

8% of Pakistani population are the Urdu/Hindustani language speakers= 14.4 million
45% of Pakistani population is Punjabi= 81 million
Population of Punjabis in India= 27.9 million
Population of Hindi/Hindustani language in India= 350-400 million (Bihar, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Haryana and Delhi)

Now tell me which one is the major overlap

In Pakistan a person living in Punjab = Punjabi.. Don't you get it..?

 

[ExtraOdinary]

Mirpur is in AJK not in Potohar ..

And when did I dispute that. One is an administrative unit, the other is a geographical representation

In Pakistan a person living in Punjab = Punjabi.. Don't you get it..?

Again, when did I dispute that , do you even bother to read the background of the conversation?

 

[Jay12345]

No dear, in post #61 you say:
"Majority of overlap between Indians and Pakistanis are Punjabis". Now let us do some calculations:

8% of Pakistani population are the Urdu/Hindustani language speakers= 14.4 million
45% of Pakistani population is Punjabi= 81 million
Population of Punjabis in India= 27.9 million
Population of Hindi/Hindustani language in India= 350-400 million (Bihar, Uttarakhand, Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh, Haryana and Delhi)

Now tell me which one is the major overlap

There is a difference between Urdu and Hindi my friend, they are two separate languages don't know why your trying to lump it together as Hindustani just to make your argument hold. Not anywhere did I mention Hindustani only Urdu.

Now lets do some maths

8% population of Pakistan ethnically Urdu speakers= 14.4 million

5% population of India ethnically Urdu speakers= 51 million


Total combined= 65.4m



45% of population of Pakistan ethnically punjabi speakers= 81m

Population of punjabis in India= 27.9 million

Total combined= 108.9million

Now you tell me what's bigger 109m or 65mil

Now tell me which one is the overlap

 

[Ragnar]

Dedicated to the Bangladeshi sacrifice-

 

[ExtraOdinary]

There is a difference between Urdu and Hindi my friend, they are two separate languages don't know why your trying to lump it together as Hindustani just to make your argument hold. Not anywhere did I mention Hindustani only Urdu.

Now lets do some maths

8% population of Pakistan ethnically Urdu speakers= 14.4 million

5% population of India ethnically Urdu speakers= 51 million


Total combined= 65.4m



45% of population of Pakistan ethnically punjabi speakers= 81m

Population of punjabis in India= 27.9 million

Total combined= 108.9million

Now you tell me what's bigger 109m or 65mil

Now tell me which one is the overlap

Nope. It is widely agreed that Urdu/Hindi or more neutrally called the Hindustani language is mutually intelligible and for all intents and purposes is the same language. The only major diff is the script, but then we do not write to interact with others, we speak! So my argument still stands

 

[Jay12345]

Nope. It is widely agreed that Urdu/Hindi or more neutrally called the Hindustani language is mutually intelligible and for all intents and purposes is the same language. The only major diff is the script, but then we do not write to interact with others, we speak! So my argument still stands

Mate Hindustani is not a recognised language in either India or Pakistan. Your argument does not stand. Both Indian and Pakistani gov along with the rest of the world consider them separate languages for 'all intents and purposes'

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Ok... I said majority of Pakistanis are punjabis ethnically. You popped out like a superhero saying I'm wrong and there's another major ethnicity Implying Urdu . I showed you the figures regarding ethnically punjabis and Urdu speakers 45vs 8. . After that you said I'm correct punjabis are the majority.
That's called backtracking my friend to first say I'm wrong then to say I'm right after figures are provided

Southern Punjab makes 60+% of tht "so called punjabi" population ..n not of South Punjab is ethnically not punjabi... Even the PDF members from S.P are ethnically not punjabi.. Although they do speak "serieki"..


In short Pak Punjab is like a melting pot of ethnocties..



Most of the Pakistanis in the Middle East are punjabis or Pakhtuns .. Plus Baluch (mostly in Oman. --where they make 35+% of the Omani population)...

I doubt they "hang on" with Indians ... Except for indian punjabis ..with whom they share some culture or language.. By overall they mostly keep with themselves ...