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Bangladesh proposes procurement of high-end military equipment from US

Yes the f16 is a cheaper long term solution. Maintenance of your jets will be key of you are to keep them for 40 years starting from now. Myanmar would be easily dealt with. They have our JF-17s though :bunny:
I wonder how professional are the BAF these days. Do they still have that mukti streak in them? Sorry I couldn't help saying that :enjoy:

Its logistics arm is very professional who regularly participate in UN missions and have clear purpose.
Its mechanical dept similarly remain effective.

Its defensive arm however one assumes have degraded due to lack of hardware. What level of morale with the best will in the world can you maintain with half a sqd of migs and few sqds of f7 derivatives facing opponents who quantitatively and qualitatively outmatches BAF and continues to forge ahead whilst BAF has stood still for nearly 3 decades without any improvement in capacity.
 
Its logistics arm is very professional who regularly participate in UN missions and have clear purpose.
Its mechanical dept similarly remain effective.

Its defensive arm however one assumes have degraded due to lack of hardware. What level of morale with the best will in the world can you maintain with half a sqd of migs and few sqds of f7 derivatives facing opponents who quantitatively and qualitatively outmatches BAF and continues to forge ahead whilst BAF has stood still for nearly 3 decades without any improvement in capacity.
Hmm well I wouldn't like that situation either if it were my country.
 
IMO ... keep it simple and stick to the Super Bug if given the chance. Costlier? Sure, but no compromise on range and payload, and more affordable to operate (probably) than any Flanker. It'll do Pakistan a huge solid by diluting India's Rafale purchase (by forcing them to split across three fronts).
 
My humble suggestion, if BD looks ahead, they should set aside desire for any or all American equipment. Instead, they should talk to China or even the Russians and focus on building their indigenous capability in the same vein as Pakistan. What BD have, even Pakistan does not, and that is time and space without having to deal with an active threat. It means BD can single-mindedly focus on a joint venture followed on by indigenous development and take their time to do so without being rushed to buy a solution to cater to near threats.

I say this with quite a bit of clarity in my mind that if BD make the mistake of going to a western platform, they will no doubt be in the same quandary as Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, KSA, UAE with not only the threat of sanctions but actual sanctions being placed if their policies deviate and the way things are going, it is more and more likely that most Muslim majority countries will not see eye to eye with the West on many issues. So sanctions are just a matter of time because western systems will ALWAYS be susceptible to sanctions.

Yes American systems offer the best bang for the dollar but they have to be flying to offer that bang. If they are parked for lack of spares due to sanctions, one might as well not even bother in the first place. Anyone who thinks that BD can maintain balanced ties with the West would be mistaken. Talk of Turkey, a NATO member, being sanctioned was unfathomable just a few years ago but the situation is for all to see.
 
once we sign any major deal USA is total control :) we have to do as they says .............
 
Bangladesh wants to buy combat fighters, Apache helicopters, missile systems from US

US officials in Dhaka say work in progress to ink two agreements to make the purchase happen

Bangladesh has proposed to the United States to purchase advanced military equipment including multi-role combat fighters, Apache attack helicopters and surface-to-air missile systems, according to US government officials.

Both countries are currently negotiating two agreements that are required by the US law for the purchase to go ahead that will expand the military cooperation between the countries, said the two officials, preferring anonymity, while talking to a select group of reporters at the US Embassy in Dhaka yesterday.

However, when contacted by Dhaka Tribune, Foreign Secretary Shahidul Haque declined to comment on the matter.

The foundational agreements are Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA) and General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA). Both are bilateral in nature.

ACSA refers to an agreement between the US coalition partners that allow US forces to exchange most common types of support, including food, fuel, transportation, ammunition, and equipment. The agreement does not, in any way, commit a country to any military action.

GSOMIA is a legally binding deal that will ensure that the US advanced equipment and its knowhow will be protected from others.

The officials, however, did not say how much it would cost Bangladesh to make the proposed purchase.

They said it was not possible to talk about the prices as long discussions regarding the agreements were pending.

The initial request from Bangladesh for more advanced equipment include attack helicopters, multi-role combat fighters aircraft, surface-to-air missile system and few other things that were made back in 2018, said one of the officials.

For instance, the official said that they offered Bangladesh Air Force (BAF) two types of attack helicopters and BAF opted for the AH-64 Apache helicopters. “Now, the air force is waiting for the approval of the civilian leadership.”

“We are supportive of it [Bangladesh’s proposal],” said the other official, expressing optimism to ink the deals soon to pave the way for the purchases.

But neither of the officials elaborated on the types of other advanced equipment Bangladesh wants to buy from the US.

Since these are high-end equipment from the US defence industry, the conclusion of the agreements was required to transfer the machinery, they said, and added that there were certain non-advanced equipments that can be purchased without such agreements.

All purchased advanced equipment from the US will come with a number of facilities that include servicing, maintenance, training and supply of spare parts.

One of the officials said that Bangladesh military has now come to a point to feel that it can now have advanced US equipment, and Washington is positive about it as cooperation between the militaries of two countries has been on the rise.

“Bangladesh has known about these agreements for quite some time,” the official said, but declined to comment on the status of the negotiations regarding the two agreements.

Both officials also noted that Bangladesh military has been using the US equipment sensibly, leading Washington to consider selling advanced equipment — which will help Dhaka achieve Forces Goal 2030, a long-term modernization program for Bangladesh’s armed forces.

About the timeframe to conclude the agreements, one official said that it takes one year to sign an ACSA while it takes as long as four years to ink a GSOMIA.

To a question on possible objection from China, the main supplier of arms to Bangladesh military, about the proposed purchases from the US, the official said that it was for Bangladesh to decide from where it would buy the arms.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...KKuJvKe8uPdPGYTDH5ne_FS-cKzc843mh-7E8iWdmSh2A

Wait hold on. F16 s to Bangladesh ?
Why? What does Bangladesh have to offer to the US that is worth F16s. Americans don't give f16s for no reason even if you have the money to pay for them.

Bangladesh, US in talks to sign two defence deals

The United States is ready to support Bangladesh Military Forces Goal 2030 as it seeks to modernise its military equipment.


For that, Bangladesh will need to sign two “foundational” defence deals - General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA) and Acquisition and Cross Servicing Agreement (ACSA).

Both governments and military forces are in talks now to conclude those deals, an official of the US administration with knowledge of that issue told bdnews24.com. The official is not authorised to talk to media about the matter.

A senior official at the Bangladesh foreign ministry also confirmed that talks have commenced to conclude those deals “necessary to buy modern equipment from the United States”.

The US-Bangladesh defence relationship is important to Washington, as evidenced by its continued support for US-Bangla military exercises hosted by Bangladesh.

Those include Pacific Angel (Summer 2019), Disaster Response Exercise and Exchange (DREE) (Oct 2019), Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) (Nov 19), COPE South (Feb 20), and Tiger Lightning (Mar 20).

Over the last year, both sides conducted multiple Joint Combined Exchanged Training (JCETs) events and Subject Matter Expert Exchanges focused on counter-terrorism issues.

Washington also provided $3.3 million to send 233 members of the Bangladesh military to attend military professionalisation courses in the US and the wider Indo-Pacific region over the last year.

The US also provided $5.3 million to cover the total cost of procurement and delivery of five 38-feet metal shark boats to support the maritime security objectives of the Bangladesh Navy.

The Bangladesh government introduced “Forces Goal 2030” in 2009 with an eye on massive expansion and modernisation of the Bangladesh Army, Navy, and Air Force.

It is aimed at building a three-dimensional force capable of conducting multi-platform warfare. The Forces Goal 2030 was later revised in 2017. It was the first plan to modernise the Bangladesh Armed Forces.

Under that plan, Bangladesh has bought different types of upgraded equipment including helicopters, unmanned aircraft, and anti-aircraft missiles, mostly from China.

“Everybody in the world knows we can provide the best quality modern equipment,” the US official said. “We greatly value the contribution of Bangladesh military officers who attend our military courses. We seek to support Bangladesh peacekeepers serving on UN missions.”

The official said they are currently working with the government of Bangladesh to conclude those foundational defence agreements (GSOMIA and ACSA), which are essential “to enabling a closer defence relationship, expanding opportunities for defense trade, information sharing, and military-to-military cooperation between our two countries”.

The official explained both the deals which are “nothing related to any strategies” or “containing China” as perceived by many.

GSOMIA

The GSOMIA is a foundational government-to-government bilateral agreement that will permit greater collaboration and sharing of classified military information in the form of intelligence and classified information US defence equipment.

GSOMIA is a reciprocal, legally-binding agreement that ensures governments understand and commit to protect classified military information at an equivalent level of security.

“It does not obligate or commit governments to share classified information or material, it only ensures equivalent protection of the information if shared,” the official said.

Washington has GSOMIA agreements with 76 partners across the globe, including several countries in South Asia.

GSOMIA serves to strengthen cooperation to advance shared interests of trusted partners. As the US-Bangladesh relationship continues to grow, GSOMIA is essential to enabling the cooperation we both seek.

“For Foreign Military Sales (FMS) or GSOMIA, our security authorities would work closely with your security authorities to develop a security plan and standard operating procedures to implement required security measures.”

ACSA

The purpose of the ACSA is to allow the US and partner nation forces to procure and pay for common types of logistical support, supplies, and services in a way that simplifies cooperation.

“ACSA agreements do not in any way commit a partner nation to military action nor do they authorise the stationing of ships, aircraft, or military personnel in foreign countries.”

“They only serve to simplify the procurement and payment of logistic support, supplies, and services between partner forces,” said the official.

The United States has an ACSA agreement with over 100 countries, including India and Sri Lanka.

As a mutual logistics support agreement, for example, an ACSA could facilitate the transfer of fuel from the Bangladesh military to visiting US naval ships participating in the annual Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) exercise.

“It could also improve the United States’ ability to respond to any potential humanitarian or natural disasters involving Bangladesh and facilitate the transfer of fuel from the US military to Bangladesh naval ships operating outside of their normal areas; thereby eliminating the need to contract with commercial vendors,” the official said to cite an example.

https://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/201...fonMBkUEZ_VHFpnQKDDO5VAKw1gtKBd1jAsDtYwfWcadc
 
US officials in Dhaka say work in progress to ink two agreements to make the purchase happen

Bangladesh has proposed to the United States to purchase advanced military equipment including multi-role combat fighters, Apache attack helicopters and surface-to-air missile systems, according to US government officials.

Both countries are currently negotiating two agreements that are required by the US law for the purchase to go ahead that will expand the military cooperation between the countries, said the two officials, preferring anonymity, while talking to a select group of reporters at the US Embassy in Dhaka yesterday.

However, when contacted by Dhaka Tribune, Foreign Secretary Shahidul Haque declined to comment on the matter.

The foundational agreements are Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA) and General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA). Both are bilateral in nature.

ACSA refers to an agreement between the US coalition partners that allow US forces to exchange most common types of support, including food, fuel, transportation, ammunition, and equipment. The agreement does not, in any way, commit a country to any military action.

GSOMIA is a legally binding deal that will ensure that the US advanced equipment and its knowhow will be protected from others.

The officials, however, did not say how much it would cost Bangladesh to make the proposed purchase.

They said it was not possible to talk about the prices as long discussions regarding the agreements were pending.

The initial request from Bangladesh for more advanced equipment include attack helicopters, multi-role combat fighters aircraft, surface-to-air missile system and few other things that were made back in 2018, said one of the officials.

For instance, the official said that they offered Bangladesh Air Force (BAF) two types of attack helicopters and BAF opted for the AH-64 Apache helicopters. “Now, the air force is waiting for the approval of the civilian leadership.”


“We are supportive of it [Bangladesh’s proposal],” said the other official, expressing optimism to ink the deals soon to pave the way for the purchases.

But neither of the officials elaborated on the types of other advanced equipment Bangladesh wants to buy from the US.

Since these are high-end equipment from the US defence industry, the conclusion of the agreements was required to transfer the machinery, they said, and added that there were certain non-advanced equipments that can be purchased without such agreements.

All purchased advanced equipment from the US will come with a number of facilities that include servicing, maintenance, training and supply of spare parts.

One of the officials said that Bangladesh military has now come to a point to feel that it can now have advanced US equipment, and Washington is positive about it as cooperation between the militaries of two countries has been on the rise.

“Bangladesh has known about these agreements for quite some time,” the official said, but declined to comment on the status of the negotiations regarding the two agreements.

Both officials also noted that Bangladesh military has been using the US equipment sensibly, leading Washington to consider selling advanced equipment — which will help Dhaka achieve Forces Goal 2030, a long-term modernization program for Bangladesh’s armed forces.

About the timeframe to conclude the agreements, one official said that it takes one year to sign an ACSA while it takes as long as four years to ink a GSOMIA.

To a question on possible objection from China, the main supplier of arms to Bangladesh military, about the proposed purchases from the US, the official said that it was for Bangladesh to decide from where it would buy the arms.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...KKuJvKe8uPdPGYTDH5ne_FS-cKzc843mh-7E8iWdmSh2A
 
It's a trap! It's a trap! Don't do it. I tell you, you will regret it.
 
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What a beauty!

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Published on 03:20 AM, October 18, 2019
US wants 2 defence deals with Bangladesh

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The forerunner of the present-day Bangladesh Army is the Bangladesh Forces of 1971. Photo: Wikimedia Commons

Diplomatic Correspondent
The US wants to sign two defence agreements with Bangladesh as the latter is seeking to buy advanced equipment from the US as part of its goal to modernise the military by 2030.

The agreements are General Security of Military Information Agreement (GSOMIA) and the Acquisition Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA).

US officials termed them “foundational agreements” meant to strengthen defence relationship between two countries.

The move comes as Bangladesh last year sought to buy advanced military equipment, said US officials during a media briefing in the city yesterday.

“We are currently working with the government of Bangladesh to conclude certain foundational defence agreements … these are essential to enabling a close relationship, expanding opportunities for defence trade, information sharing, and military-to-military cooperation between our two countries,” said a US official wishing not to be named.

According to the official, GSOMIA is a foundational government-to-government agreement that permits greater collaboration.

“It’s a reciprocal legally-binding agreement that ensures governments understand and commit to protecting classified military information,” said an official.

The GSOMIA does not obligate governments to share classified information or material. It ensures protection of the information shared by partner governments, the official said.

The US has GSOMIA agreements with 76 countries, including some countries in South Asia.

“As our relationship continues to grow with Bangladesh, GSOMIA is essential to enabling the cooperation we both seek,” the official added.

For foreign military sales or GSOMIA, US security authorities will work closely with Bangladesh’s security authorities to develop a plan and standard operating procedure to implement required measures for making sure classified information will be protected in Bangladesh.

“It’s two way. We also commit the same kind of protection of Bangladesh’s military information.”

Explaining the ACSA agreement, a US official said its purpose was to allow US and partner nations’ forces procure and pay for common types of supplies and services.

It could cover everything from food, water, clothing, transportation, training, petroleum, ammunition, maintenance to medical services.

For example, the US official said, if a US ship arrived at Chattogram and needed fuel, it could buy it from Bangladesh government and pay in cash. The US ship could also pay through similar amount in fuel to a Bangladeshi ship in other parts of the world.

“Its purpose is to make it easy for our militaries to have better cooperation. ... It’s to make things easy,” the official said.

It could facilitate transfer of fuel from Bangladesh military to visiting US ship participating in annual exercise. It could also improve US’s ability to respond to any potential humanitarian or natural disaster and facilitate the transfer of fuel from US military to Bangladeshi naval ships outside normal geographical area, an official added.

“The agreement does not in anyway commit a partner nation to military action nor does it authorise stationing of ships, aircraft or military personnel in foreign countries. It only serves to simplify procurement agreement, logistic support, supplies, and services between partner forces,” the official added.

For practical purposes, the US has ACSA agreement with over a hundred countries throughout the globe, including India and Sri Lanka.

Asked if the defence agreements were meant to promote Indo-Pacific Strategy (IPS) or counter China, the US official said it was not about IPS or countering China and that they were trying to respond to the requests from Bangladesh.

US and Bangladesh have military cooperation, including that for training of Bangladeshi peacekeepers, counter-terrorism exercises, disaster response, and exchange of trainings.

Last year, the US provided $5.3 million to cover the total cost of procurement and delivery of five Metal Shark boats to support the maritime security objectives of Bangladesh Navy.

The US also provided $3.3 million last year to send 233 members of the Bangladesh military to attend various military professionalisation courses within the US and the wider Indo-Pacific region, another US official said.

“We desire to support the Bangladesh Military Forces Goal 2030, as Bangladesh seeks to modernise its military equipment.”

https://www.thedailystar.net/frontpage/us-wants-2-defence-deals-bangladesh-1815466%3famp
 

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