Bangladesh permits India to withdraw water from Feni river

[Sine Nomine]

Can you define what is an anti-Pakistan mouthpiece? I am talking about what the PA troops did in BD. It is no secret and all the people in the world, except perhaps you, know about it. Do you think all these people are anti-Pakistan for knowing and telling the truth?

Everyone knows about Groos exaggeration,rest everyone knows what both sides have done.

By the way, with two flags of the Master Race why does it hurt you to know about the 1971 war?

Nothing hurts,except few days ago you gave water of river to Bharat without getting anything back,their agents murdering a young Bengali in a BD Uni and on top of that BD special force officials being abducted from BD and being returned back after beating.
This master race has done nothing except for never being humiliated like that everyday after so called independence.

 

[hoursintel]

A pure, patriot educated Military can give us back up from behind , and exactly they are giving so I believe

So pure! Such nurani! Masha-Allah much piety! Gimme a break. And you say I have agenda?

And political sweet mouthed words like "Hard working people" ooff. so cringe!!!!

BAL is surviving because people are tired of BNP-Jamati shenanigans. All my life I have seen them whine about care taker government. There are so many issues for people. But they are interested in getting their own political power nothing else. They don't talk about policies. No vision no mission. No message for the youth. People see BAL as lesser of the two evils.

You are hoping a military 'hero' would pop up? Who is he. Lets hear the names? And who are Bangladesh's enemy countries btw.

Can we talk about the system. The establishment. Education system. The high court. The laws! The deep state that never gets voted out instead enjoys benefits no matter which government is in power. I don't care if there is A party or B party. I don't talk about people. I talk about policies.

Gosh why am I even talking about this. So far from my first topic. Which is freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is good thing. Bangladeshis must learn to speak without coming to conclusion too fast about others and branding them fifth columnist, traitors, jew, mossad, cia, bnp-jamati yada yada.

 

[VikingRaider]

BAL is surviving because people are tired of BNP-Jamati shenanigans.

If this is the case, then why such crocodile tears for democracy? Since we found no alternative, we should remain. Silent about damn democracy that I abhor now!

That's why I say we should ignore any post from online trolls from other countries. I will let them bark and will keep supporting this Govt unless they cross all limits! Case closed.

 

[hoursintel]

If this is the case, then why such crocodile tears for democracy? Since we found no alternative, we should remain. Silent about damn democracy that I abhor now!

That's why I say we should ignore anty post from online trolls from other countries. I willet them bark and will keep supporting this Govt unless they cross all limits! Case closed.

Lets hear your solution.

 

[bluesky]

কিছু মানুষ আছে যারা হাইগ্যা শোচেনা কিন্তু মুইত্যা গলা পানিতে নাইমা গোসল করে। স্যারের অবস্থা একটু কাছাকাছি বইলাই মনে হইতাছে। ছোটোখাটো ব্যাপার লইয়া সমানে প্যানদাইতেছেন, বছর যে শ্যাষ হইয়া গেলো আর কত প্যাঁদায়বেন? বয়স কি ১৬-র নিচে এখনও?

 

[Michael Corleone]

India is so terrified of BD that it has built a 4,000 km long fence along the border. You are safe.

Lmao your mates here wouldn’t agree xD

 

[Sehnsucht]

@bluesky & @The Ronin ভাই।
থামেন।সংযত হন।মতের পার্থক্য হইতেই পারে।এর জন্য ভাষা খারাপ করার প্রয়োজন নাই।আমরা আমরাই তো।
এইখানে আমাদের গালিগালাজ করার লোকের অভাব নাই।কাজেই নিজেদের মধ্যে ঝগড়া বিবাদ না করাই ভালো।

 

[VikingRaider]

@bluesky & @The Ronin ভাই।
থামেন।সংযত হন।মতের পার্থক্য হইতেই পারে।এর জন্য ভাষা খারাপ করার প্রয়োজন নাই।আমরা আমরাই তো।
এইখানে আমাদের গালিগালাজ করার লোকের অভাব নাই।কাজেই নিজেদের মধ্যে ঝগড়া বিবাদ না করাই ভালো।

পুরাপুরি সহমত । প্লিজ ভাইয়েরা , আসেন ভিন্নমত কে শ্রদ্ধা করতে শিখি ।

 

[Species]

If this is the case, then why such crocodile tears for democracy? Since we found no alternative, we should remain. Silent about damn democracy that I abhor now!

That's why I say we should ignore any post from online trolls from other countries. I will let them bark and will keep supporting this Govt unless they cross all limits! Case closed.

What will be those limits?

 

[VikingRaider]

What will be those limits?

Look , Bangladesh have better relationship with China now . It's clear that Bangladesh is slowly getting out from Indian influence . I am against giving the water of feni river because I did no get teesta water .

But India was already taking huge amount of water illegally by breaking International law . So there shall be a possibility that in next few years Bangladesh can create pressure to get teesta treaty ! But First we need a stronger military to create pressure .

However it's just my analysis , I could be dead wrong. But this is what now we only can hope . So lets wait for the future since now we have no other things to do . I am just not pessimistic . let's not give up hopes .

 

[Species]

Look , Bangladesh have better relationship with China now . It's clear that Bangladesh is slowly getting out from Indian influence . I am against giving the water of feni river because I did no get teesta water .

But India was already taking huge amount of water illegally by breaking International law . So there shall be a possibility that in next few years Bangladesh can create pressure to get teesta treaty ! But First we need a stronger military to create pressure .

However it's just my analysis , I could be dead wrong. But this is what now we only can hope . So lets wait for the future since now we have no other things to do . I am just not pessimistic . let's not give up hopes .

You are either too naive or in a denial for whatever reasons I don't know.

"Bangladesh is slowly getting out from Indian influence" - How did you come to this conclusion? And how would you explain the agreement on surveillance radar in this context?

You have repeatedly expressed your discontent on democracy. Modi refrains from signing the Teesta treaty because the elected govt. in West Bengal is opposing it, while Hasina has just let India to withdraw water from Feni without even asking the people of her country. What's the difference between the two? Answer: Democracy.

Again, democracy is not all perfect and other forms of governments are not all evil. Yet it's better to have democracy than having an authoritarian govt. under an incapable leader.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Not a good idea - withdrawal
methods always end up with one party getting #+@#ed.

 

[VikingRaider]

And how would you explain the agreement on surveillance radar in this context?

Yes this is the only thing really made me too much confused . Even much more than water . It's a matter to be worried. I do not know what to say . Perhaps @Arthur can explain it better. Arthur your opinion is requested . Please say something in this case . And Thanks @Species to bring this topic .

You have repeatedly expressed your discontent on democracy.

Should not I be ? Actually what democracy gave us ? Corruption , mass murder , mass rape , acid violence to women , politicalization of every sector in Bangladesh ? political folks are becoming super rich and others are screwed up ? We saw the result of this democratic era from 1991 to 2008 ( actually till 2014 election ) .

What we have got ? Murder , strike , destruction and burning of vehicles and shops so that peoples can be destroyed economically , 15/16 hours load shedding a day in 2005-06 , rise of Bangla Bhai and shaikh Abdur Rahman? later in the name of restoration of democracy 2013-2015 chaos in Bangladesh ? Specially arson attack in 2014 and 2015 ?

And the same attacker party participated in 2018 December election and shamelessly joined in parliament , and one also requested plot from this so called illegal parliament?

Do you want me to adhere this democracy and it's leaders , who give some words in the morning and break it in the afternoon ?

What's the difference between the two? Answer: Democracy.

Yes we already tasted the democracy , Perhaps you did not . Besides India has a federal system and Bangladesh is unitary . It's also another reason that Modi can not go against Mamota. make Bangladesh as unitary democratic republic , Hasina will also be protested for her action . But whatever democracy will be in Bangladesh , who knows what is going to happen since we are morally corrupted ?

Yet it's better to have democracy than having an authoritarian govt. under an incapable leader.

I would say that it's better to support a military backed autocracy , rather than being smashed under the feet of a cult like democracy voted by heartless , worthless , pseudo-educated mass who are champion of screwing themselves because of their so called voting right that easily can be bought by few hundreds of takas and tea and biscuit , with a slogan that if someone will come to power , there will be the sound of conch in masjid instead of Azan .

When such peoples ( basically zombies ) becomes the standard of democracy , then it' better to abhor it .Opposite is chetona business and that is also extremely bad . Both sides have their own zombie supporters .

So it's better no eye washing democracy survive until we are ready for it . And also what is the point of Democracy if you have article 70 in constitution? this article already cancelled your democratic right ! What type of democracy it is , where an MP ( who was elected by the peoples of his area) can not vote against his own party ? So should it be called democracy ?

And also if caretaker govt is abolished , what is the problem ? After all 2008 election was under a caretaker govt , and this elected govt abolished caretaker govt , and that is actually not against our constitution ! Our constitution gave them the right to abolish it with super majority (2/3) ! So technically democracy had digged it's own grave !

 

[Species]

Yes this is the only thing really made me too much confused . Even much more than water . It's a matter to be worried. I do not know what to say . Perhaps @Arthur can explain it better. Arthur your opinion is requested . Please say something in this case . And Thanks @Species to bring this topic .


Should not I be ? Actually what democracy gave us ? Corruption , mass murder , mass rape , acid violence to women , politicalization of every sector in Bangladesh ? political folks are becoming super rich and others are screwed up ? We saw the result of this democratic era from 1991 to 2008 ( actually till 2014 election ) .

What we have got ? Murder , strike , destruction and burning of vehicles and shops so that peoples can be destroyed economically , 15/16 hours load shedding a day in 2005-06 , rise of Bangla Bhai and shaikh Abdur Rahman? later in the name of restoration of democracy 2013-2015 chaos in Bangladesh ? Specially arson attack in 2014 and 2015 ?

And the same attacker party participated in 2018 December election and shamelessly joined in parliament , and one also requested plot from this so called illegal parliament?

Do you want me to adhere this democracy and it's leaders , who give some words in the morning and break it in the afternoon ?


Yes we already tasted the democracy , Perhaps you did not . Besides India has a federal system and Bangladesh is unitary . It's also another reason that Modi can not go against Mamota. make Bangladesh as unitary democratic republic , Hasina will also be protested for her action . But whatever democracy will be in Bangladesh , who knows what is going to happen since we are morally corrupted ?


I would say that it's better to support a military backed autocracy , rather than being smashed under the feet of a cult like democracy voted by heartless , worthless , pseudo-educated mass who are champion of screwing themselves because of their so called voting right that easily can be bought by few hundreds of takas and tea and biscuit , with a slogan that if someone will come to power , there will be the sound of conch in masjid instead of Azan .

When such peoples ( basically zombies ) becomes the standard of democracy , then it' better to abhor it .Opposite is chetona business and that is also extremely bad . Both sides have their own zombie supporters .

So it's better no eye washing democracy survive until we are ready for it . And also what is the point of Democracy if you have article 70 in constitution? this article already cancelled your democratic right ! What type of democracy it is , where an MP ( who was elected by the peoples of his area) can not vote against his own party ? So should it be called democracy ?

And also if caretaker govt is abolished , what is the problem ? After all 2008 election was under a caretaker govt , and this elected govt abolished caretaker govt , and that is actually not against our constitution ! Our constitution gave them the right to abolish it with super majority (2/3) ! So technically democracy had digged it's own grave !

So your only argument against democracy is the activities of BNP? That's laughable.

Do you have any idea what was the situation of Chittagong when AL was in opposition? The chief sea-port of the country was regularly made crippled by the goons of Jubo league and Sramik League. Heck, during the peak of the 2006-2007 crisis the port was literally kept closed by these goons to serve their own party interest. Ironically, the Indian trolls in this forum often put forth the threat of blockading Chittagong port in a war against Bangladesh, quite an awkward similarity isn't it?

And can you give an example of a similar intelligence failure like that of BDR mutiny of 2009 in the history of Bangladesh?

The point is, BNP is bad doesn't mean AL is better. Democracy would keep them under checks and balances. Lack of democracy - wild dogs like BCL being unleashed on the people and anti-state agreements being signed without any regards for national interests.

Of course a dictatorship under people like Sheikh Mujib, Ziaur Rahman or even Ershad would be fine to me, however, they are all dead and the existing leaders are only good at petty village politics!

 

[VikingRaider]

So your only argument against democracy is the activities of BNP? That's laughable.

First choose an alternative and then laugh . I do not care who is in power . I just care about some basic needs and now peoples are getting .If BNP will return ,a civil war will outburst in Bangladesh.

Do you have any idea what was the situation of Chittagong when AL was in opposition? The chief sea-port of the country was regularly made crippled by the goons of Jubo league and Sramik League. Heck, during the peak of the 2006-2007 crisis the port was literally kept closed by these goons to serve their own party interest.

I am not saying that AL is firishta.

I just chose the lesser evil for now . However during Fakhruddin regime , both BNP and AL mobs were punished by military. However fakhruddin govt was the best govt IMHO.

I will speak for democracy , but let them make a better democratic atmosphere . I hope you can use your wisdom to know who are they .

In reality there were never any pure democracy in Bangladesh . All election were rigged in a certain degree . Perhaps 1996 election was only one that was free from rigging .

And can you give an example of a similar intelligence failure like that of BDR mutiny of 2009 in the history of Bangladesh?

Better ask the military . No civilian can answer it correctly . How many army matters are open in Bangladesh ? most are secrete.

The point is, BNP is bad doesn't mean AL is better.

This question was already answered .

Democracy would keep them under checks and balances.

Indeed , but the real democracy from west . Not such thing that was in Bangladesh .

Lack of democracy - wild dogs like BCL being unleashed on the people and anti-state agreements being signed without any regards for national interests.

Without democracy China is doing Much better . With democracy the life of Bangladeshi common folks were less than dog . Atleast extreme poverty had reduced And only hungry peoples know that democracy ( Bangladeshi version ) is not going to digest in their belly . And also 16/16 hours loadshedding is not very healthy . Besides the time of BNP there was also no freedom of speech , neither it is now . So freedom of speech concept is not relevant in Bangladesh . So all logic related to previous democracy actually never existed in Bangladesh , so by default such logic is cancelled .

I have no problem with AL until other parties can be stronger who will not act like BNP . If we desire democracy before we are ready , it will only bring back the past days of horror!

And present days BCL dogs are already tamed in a certain degree. Dogs of BCL are already fired , and the dogs who murdered Abrar are already detained . I can not remember such thing during BNP regime , where they are taking action against their own folks .

AL is doing so ( you see the consequence of Zubo league) . That's all .

@Species