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The AIME Conference in 1906, held at the Ahsan Manzil palace of the Dhaka Nawab Family, laid the foundation of the Muslim League (in Bangladesh).

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That was British occupied town of Dhaka not Bangladesh.
Bangladesh occurred when East Pakistani populace rebelled for their love of India and formed a new country in 1971.
 
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That was British occupied town of Dhaka not Bangladesh.
Bangladesh occurred when East Pakistani populace rebelled for their love of India and formed a new country in 1971.

Bangladesh was always the name of East Pakistan.

This is from East Pakistan period during 1970 Election.
The poster compares 'Bangladesh' with 'West Pakistan'.

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Bangladesh is alway the name of east Pakistan.

This is from east pakistan period.
The poster compares 'Bangladesh' with 'West Pakistan'

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Its just freedom of expression. well it was till sub nationalists hijacked a movement and rebelled against the State fulfilling the prophecy laid down by Mir Jafar and Mir Sadaq

9.03 crore. and we use the word "state" not "province".

India is a mob masquerading as a Nation.
 
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And Assam, Sikkim & other north-eastern states as well.... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yep. They all belong to greater Bangladesh. Bangladesh doesn’t mean country of Bangalis even though even with all those states Bengalis will he overwhelmingly majority. It means ‘country of rivers‘ officially. It can say be said unofficially country of Bangalis as the majority are Bengalis. But it doesn’t discriminates minorities.
 
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How can Bangladeshis create Pakistan?

Bangladesh occurred in 1971.
Pakistan was created by Allah in 1947.

Can you share the science behind this theory?

Low IQ wala pakistani.
Try getting this in your thick punjabi head.

Bangladeshis today, the bengalis created Pakistan. Without the Bengalis the idea and creation of two state would’ve never came about. Those Bengalis who created Pakistan and Bangladeshis.
 
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Low IQ wala pakistani.
Try getting this in your thick punjabi head.

Bangladeshis today, the bengalis created Pakistan. Without the Bengalis the idea and creation of two state would’ve never came about. Those Bengalis who created Pakistan and Bangladeshis.

But that is statistically and logically not possible.

Bangladesh is anti thesis to Pakistan
 
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They should rename it to Bongoli and legalize marijuana there
 
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But that is statistically and logically not possible.

Bangladesh is anti thesis to Pakistan
@Hasan89 meant the Muslims of Bengal before 1947. Was it not that they were at the forefront of Pakistan Movement when the Muslim Punjabis were sleeping at the feet of their Sikh Gurus. Check the result of the Provincial election of 1946. Except for Bengal, there was no other Muslim League govt in Quetta, Karachi, Lahore, and Peshawar or in any other Provinces of then India. Now, you have become the champion of Pakistan Movement, bloody idiots!!
 
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The AIME Conference in 1906, held at the Ahsan Manzil palace of the Dhaka Nawab Family, laid the foundation of the Muslim League (in Bangladesh).

All_India_Muslim_league_conference_1906_attendees_in_Dhaka.jpg
It was the Urdu speaking Nawab of Dhaka, Sir Salimullah (originally from Kashmir), who initiated it!!! Khaja Nazimuddin, from the same Nawab family, opposed Bengali to be a state language while being the PM of Pak!!! Almost all of them, coming from all parts of the British India, were wearing Ottoman style Fez caps in this picture (in honor of and allegiance to the Halife in Istanbul)!!! Pak was created on the basis of the Two Nation Theory (Muslims and non-Muslims are two different Nations)!!!! Muslims in the Bengal (currently BD) had apparently no problem with that!!! But, as soon as Pak was created they switched the mode to the Bengali nationalism based on ethnicity, language etc.!!!! Looks like all of their moves weren't based on ideology, but opportunity!!! And, one million Muhajirs, who migrated to the East Pak, were mercilessly and brutally maimed, raped, killed etc. - irrespective of kids, women, elderly - to make their point!!! Well, the opportunist and treacherous attitudes take one this far - now termed and treated like Termites by BJP/RSS, the ultimate Hindus....
 
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But that is statistically and logically not possible.

Bangladesh is anti thesis to Pakistan
Its a fact that Bangladeshi were the founder of Muslim League and on the for front in the Pakistani struggle 1940-1947, Don't always live in delusional mode and except the facts that Bangladeshi leader ship and people played vital role for creation of Pakistan @Retired Troll
 
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@Hasan89 meant the Muslims of Bengal before 1947. Was it not that they were at the forefront of Pakistan Movement when the Muslim Punjabis were sleeping at the feet of their Sikh Gurus. Check the result of the Provincial election of 1946. Except for Bengal, there was no other Muslim League govt in Quetta, Karachi, Lahore, and Peshawar or in any other Provinces of then India. Now, you have become the champion of Pakistan Movement, bloody idiots!!
Muslim League was in power in Bengal since 1937. The year when Indian subjects were given opportunity to elect their representative under the Government of India act. 1935. Initially AK Fazlul Haque presided over a govt. formed as a coalition between Muslim league and his own KPP. Later Mulsim league formed govt. in Bengal unilaterally and both HS Suhrawardy and Khawza Nazimuddin were Muslim league PM of Bengal before Pakistan was formed. Muslim League rule over Bengal(largest province and most numerous muslim population, containing well over 42 percent of all muslim in British Raj) gave the Muslim league the biggest legitimacy to claim the representative of Indian Muslims. In that time Muslim League was a minuscule party in Punjab. Without Bengal stronghold, British Raj and Congress would not even count Muslim League as a worthy Party to sit on a same table, forget about negotiating about Pakistan.
@Hakikat ve Hikmet @Retired Troll
 
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It was the Urdu speaking Nawab of Dhaka, Sir Salimullah (originally from Kashmir), who initiated it!!! Khaja Nazimuddin, from the same Nawab family, opposed Bengali to be a state language while being the PM of Pak!!! Almost all of them, coming from all parts of the British India, were wearing Ottoman style Fez caps in this picture (in honor of and allegiance to the Halife in Istanbul)!!!
Urdu was not historically not a very foreign language in Bengal but it was in your uneducated Punjab, Frontier, Sindh or Baluchistan. Stupid, false flagger Turkiwala, do not you even know which people started the Khilafat Movement in India? It was by the Muslims of Bengal and as a symbol of that Movement most of the educated Muslims of Bengal wore that Turkish cap those days that started in the 1910s. It was the symbol of aristocracy, so every Muslim noble men of Bengal and India wore it.

And what is there about the family background of Nawab Salimullah? Now, tell us the son of big a*s, who were those people starting from Bakhtier Khiliji (1200 AD) to the end of Nawab Sirajuddoulah (1757 AD)? They had all foreign blood. Many of their ancestors came to India/Bengal and settled here. They and their descendants naturally became Indian, Delhiwala or Bengali depending upon their place of domicile.

It was also the Turkic Bakhtiar Khilji. All of them and their thousands and thousands of retinues came and settled in Bengal, the land of plenty. They are us and not you, stupid. Learn history, idiot, before you again vomit your continuous ignorance.
 
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Bongo, Bangla and Bengal: A short guide to the confusing world of Bengali nomenclature
There’s much more to it than musical instruments.

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Mamata Banerjee
Aug 07, 2016 · 08:00 am
Shoaib Daniyal
If one needed to capture the Monty Python-esque absurdity of life in the state of West Bengal, the past few days would be a good place to start. On Tuesday, Mamata’s Banerjee’s government announced that it would change the name of West Bengal in order to move it up the alphabetical order.

West Bengal is one of the oldest states in the Indian Union and dates back to a time when Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu did not exist and Bihar and Assam were very different from their present boundaries.

So why was its name being changed? Absurdly, it was because Banerjee was annoyed that the name of her state forced her to speak last at Inter-State Council Meetings – hardly a sufficient reason to tamper with the identity of 90 million people.

But there’s more. It was announced that in English, the name would simply be “Bengal”, dropping the “west”. In Bengali, the name would either be “bangla” or “bongo” – the latter understandably, causing much amusement to non-Bengalis.

Babul Supriyo, a Union minister of state and a playback singer summed it up when he pointed out that the “name should not be bongo, that is a musical instrument”. This was an odd statement given that Supriyo, a Bengali from Bandel town, should have known that the current name of the state in Bengali is “Poschim Bongo”, West Bongo. One wonders what he thought that meant as he went through school – western percussion?

Etymology
Of course, Supriyo’s confusion is not entirely without reason: this land does have a rather long list of names and many of them have overlapping meanings.

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Let’s start with the oldest name: Bongo. It comes from Sanskrit. The historian Bijay Chandra Mazumdar said that “Vanga” is the Sanskrit name for a Dravidian or Munda-language speaking tribe which gave the region its first name: Bongo.

But hold on. How did Vanga become Bongo? Unfortunately, the Bengali language has no schwa – the vowel in words like “gum” or “drum” – or the consonent v/w. Most schwas gets converted to an “o” (similar to the vowel in gnaw) and the "v" in vanga got converted to a "b". Hence, Bongo.

But even in Bengali, Bongo isn’t the only name for the land. There’s also “Bangla” which confusingly, is also the name of the language. If you thought Bongo was funny, wait for the origin of Bangla: Bong-long. That’s the original name of the land, according to Mazumdar, in the language of the Bongo tribe. Today, Bangla is the everyday name of the region as opposed to Bongo, which is more formal, stuffy even. Think Britain versus Britannia.

From Persian to English
And what about Bengal? Well, as Persian-knowing Turks started to invade the subcontinent 12th century onwards, they used the term “Bangālā” to describe the eastern most lands their armies reached, no doubt taken from Bangla. In the 14th century, when the first independent Bengal Sultanate was established – free from Delhi’s control – the sultan took the title Shah-e-Bangālā, King of Bengal.

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In Persian, soon enough, the word Bangāl came to be used, term that would also enter the Hindi-Urdu language. As British colonists came into India in the 18th century, they first learnt Persian, the administrative and elite lingua franca of the subcontinent at the time.

Struggling to pronounce the Persian word Bangāl, they morphed it to Bengal, giving us the English-language name. (In much the same way, they also morphed the Persian/Urdu Kalkattā to Calcutta, the official name of the city till 2001).

That explains the etymology – but there’s still room for confusion.

“Bongo” is very often spelt “banga” (see, for example, the Paschim Banga Gramin Bank). Why, you ask?

That’s because Bengalis transliterate their language into Roman letters using not the Bengali sounds but the Sanskritic pronunciation. This is why West Bengal’s chief minister spells her name “Mamata” but actually pronounces it more like “Momotā”.

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Globe-gazing
Of course, all three words, Bongo, Bangla and Bengal, refer to a confusing set of land masses.

Earlier, Bengal was the word for the area occupied today roughly by Bengali-speaking people, which adds up to modern-day Bangladesh and West Bengal.

Since 1971, Bangladesh is a sovereign country neighbouring India, but till that year, it was commonly used as a synonym for Bengal – literally translating to “land of Bengal”.

In Aparajito (1956), Satyajit Ray’s second film in his celebrated Apu triology, for example, Apu’s headmaster tells him resignedly, “ours is a small village in a corner of Bangladesh”, meaning not the country (it did not exist then) but the Bengal region.

The first time the words “West Bengal” were used to define this region was in 1905, when the British partitioned Bengal into a Hindu-dominated western province and a Muslim- dominated east.

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Bengal was unified in 1911, only to be split again in 1947, with the western half going to India as West Bengal and the eastern half going to Pakistan as East Bengal. Till then, all three words – Bongo, Bangla and Bengal – referred to the entire region defined by the Bengali language. In 1971, when East Bengal attained independence from Pakistan, it took the name Bangladesh.

If West Bengal also drops the cardinal direction, it would lead to the curious situation of two land masses with synonyms as names.

Think about what would happen if Northern Ireland in United Kingdom were to just be called just Ireland, which, in turn have the country of “Ireland” (the Republic) to its south. That makes for a very confusing sentence – and state of affairs.

But then, with Chief Minister Banerjee deciding the identities of her people based on laughably puerile considerations like having to wait too long to speak at national events, maybe confusion is an expected outcome.

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@Hasan89 meant the Muslims of Bengal before 1947. Was it not that they were at the forefront of Pakistan Movement when the Muslim Punjabis were sleeping at the feet of their Sikh Gurus. Check the result of the Provincial election of 1946. Except for Bengal, there was no other Muslim League govt in Quetta, Karachi, Lahore, and Peshawar or in any other Provinces of then India. Now, you have become the champion of Pakistan Movement, bloody idiots!!

That's because Muslims of Western frontier weren't being marginalized and treated like Bengalis, so they didn't had to demand quotas, reservations etc. - Bengalis kept whining about it for decades without any success. But when we decided to part away, it took couple of years for us to get it. Bengalis saw opportunity in it for them and stick with Pakistan despite that word coined by a Punjabi (P A K i STAN) have no place for Bengali/Bangla/Bangladesh whatever.
 
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