Bangladesh Navy

[Penguin]

I much prefer an option to facilitate an ASW helo than carries more SAM or cannon turret, in several countries their Naval forces are more keen to bring a naval helicopter in their ships because a naval helicopter is very useful to expand their horizon and can be used into much more mission such as Combat SAR, humanitarian mission, ASW operations, patrol mission and so on. Folgosi class is not that bad

MORE sam? No, A sam.
But I agree, minor units like this benefit more (in terms of effectiveness) from a heli than from a SAM.

 

[Nishan_101]

BN should acquire the same equipment as PN acquiring or building...

 

[damiendehorn]

BN should acquire the same equipment as PN acquiring or building...

Why? What has the PN got to do with the BN? Bangladesh just has to build its armed forces according to its own national and strategic requirements.

 

[BDforever]

 

[Bamboo Castle]

BN should acquire the same equipment as PN acquiring or building...

Why? PN acquired things based on their doctrine. They have on one side their all time enemy India and on the other side the gulf countries. What they did to counter two powerful sides. But we only have to think of Myanmar and India. We need our navy as accordance with our requirements.

 

[Alif]

Why? PN acquired things based on their doctrine. They have on one side their all time enemy India and on the other side the gulf countries. What they did to counter two powerful sides. But we only have to think of Myanmar and India. We need our navy as accordance with our requirements.

Im no armchair general/strategist, but as far as im aware Pak has no political/military tensions with any Gulf/ME states other then Israel. But maritime security of one's boundary is a whole different case. Our case on the other hand is a totally different scenario, surrounded on both sides that are hostile to our existence, recently India has an increasing lobbying influence on Myanmar, both these countries are trying to encroach in our waters, for that we need sea denial, then only way i see that possible is subs, navies fear what they cannot spot and imho neither India and Myanmar till date has a reliable asw capability. Nonetheless, them men in the concerned HQ do know more regarding these, and off course i dont deny that i could be wrong.

 

[gslv mk3]

I navies fear what they cannot spot and imho neither India and Myanmar till date has a reliable asw capability.

You are indeed wrong..You have no idea of what you are talking about.

 

[Nishan_101]

Im no armchair general/strategist, but as far as im aware Pak has no political/military tensions with any Gulf/ME states other then Israel. But maritime security of one's boundary is a whole different case. Our case on the other hand is a totally different scenario, surrounded on both sides that are hostile to our existence, recently India has an increasing lobbying influence on Myanmar, both these countries are trying to encroach in our waters, for that we need sea denial, then only way i see that possible is subs, navies fear what they cannot spot and imho neither India and Myanmar till date has a reliable asw capability. Nonetheless, them men in the concerned HQ do know more regarding these, and off course i dont deny that i could be wrong.

Will BD look to join in with Pak in coming times. I am a bit sure about Sri Lanka and Bhutan. As India always plays with these countries along with BD and Nepal. I am sure if they would join in Pakistan they will have a superb Navy, Air Force and Army... INSHA ALLAH.

 

[Alif]

You are indeed wrong..You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Would you care to elaborate and enlighten me?

 

[gslv mk3]

Would you care to elaborate and enlighten me?

ASW aircraft like Tu 142,P 8 i,ASW Corvettes

 

[Alif]

ASW aircraft like Tu 142,P 8 i,ASW Corvettes

yes Tu 142, very good platform, proved itself in the past, so did Orion P8 and its variants but with only 4 P8i currently in service you cant get anything significant out of it, ASW corvettes only 3 mordern Karmota in service, rest aging platforms with some of them getting recent additions but an 70's ambassador is still old no matter hod much upgrades u get it.
Now here are a few links for u to reconsider:

1.This shows the number of battle worthy subs at India's disposal(quoting this because, according to many best way to fight a sub is with a sub).

2. This goes on to show the unprofessionalism prevailing withing the IN and a series of unfortunate events out of negligence, if India has the 4th largest navy in the world, the level of unprofessionalism will undoubtedly make them the most unprofessional navy in the world.

3: A US navy servicemen had the following views after completing a training exercise with IN, in times of war it wont get the IN far if they are colliding with each other.

4. This shows the significance of subs in modern age regardless if the opposition has ASW capabilities. A South African lone sub sank a whole NATO fleet in an mock wartime training exercise, leaving the NATO commanders red faced.

On a concluding note, remember when a DPRK mini-sub sunk a ROKN corvette? ROKN has one of the best navies with experience, hardware/software, nonetheless one of the obsolete diesel mini subs did sunk a corvette.
Apologies, for i couldn't post the reflecting links in this post due to the number of days i've logged as a member and due to the minimum post requirements.

 

[Alif]

Will BD look to join in with Pak in coming times. I am a bit sure about Sri Lanka and Bhutan. As India always plays with these countries along with BD and Nepal. I am sure if they would join in Pakistan they will have a superb Navy, Air Force and Army... INSHA ALLAH.

Brother, about the joining part. If your implying to conditions pre 71, im sure that isnt possible, not even on our darkest days, we are content with what we have and are looking forward to what we are about to become. But if ur talking about the potential to grow past our history and work together in all aspect whether it be economical/defence or any other area, then yes, we would love to. In recent times, we have even hosted private delegates from Karachi and Islamabad in Dhaka, we would send the office bus to pick them from the lobby at 8 and find them waiting there for 15mins. Technicians are also good in terms of heavy machinery. All in all the event went without any glitches and we parted ways with good terms. Very disciplined people, the bunch i had met. In Sha Allah more are to follow in the coming days and years, one step at a time. Rome wasn't built overnight.

 

[gslv mk3]

yes Tu 142, very good platform, proved itself in the past, so did Orion P8 and its variants but with only 4 P8i currently in service you cant get anything significant out of it, ASW corvettes only 3 mordern Karmota in service,

I don't understand the logic behind the bolded part-P 8I is a very sophisticated anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft.And a total of 4 Kamortas would be there in addition to 8 6 Talwar class Frigates

1.This shows the number of battle worthy subs at India's disposal(quoting this because, according to many best way to fight a sub is with a sub).

We have to consider 9 upgraded Kilo class submarines & SSN Chakra.And number of subs are only going to increase,and AIP Scorpenes have to be considered in post 2016 scenario

2. This goes on to show the unprofessionalism prevailing withing the IN and a series of unfortunate events out of negligence, if India has the 4th largest navy in the world, the level of unprofessionalism will undoubtedly make them the most unprofessional navy in the world.

Much of them are blown up to gigantic dimensions by sensationalist media.

3: A US navy servicemen had the following views after completing a training exercise with IN, in times of war it wont get the IN far if they are colliding with each other.

I didn't get the link.

 

[Alif]

I don't understand the logic behind the bolded part-P 8I is a very sophisticated anti-submarine warfare (ASW) aircraft.And a total of 4 Kamortas would be there in addition to 8 6 Talwar class Frigates




We have to consider 9 upgraded Kilo class submarines & SSN Chakra.And number of subs are only going to increase,and AIP Scorpenes have to be considered in post 2016 scenario



Much of them are blown up to gigantic dimensions by sensationalist media.



I didn't get the link.

4 p8i's with each having 2200km of range at the moment, no doubt about having the sophisticated nature of the hardware but but if a fleet of them isnt added soon, during wartime they'd have to be deployed 24/7 along with the existing maritime patrol ACs and India has a huge maritime area to protect and crucial sea lines to maintain during wartime. And in case of any conflict between BD(which I dont predict much) India has to protect its maritime boundaries on more then one front. The additions are going to be a massive force multiplier in the future, though im uncertain about their induction date cause of unavoidable delays and bureaucratic tangles(not only in case of IND) for now IN is vulnerable. kilos are very good class of subs but till then IN is vulnerable. And about the link i did mention an apology note about not being able to post links due to the minimum posts requirements and number of days logged in as a member... u can search the web though. im sure u'll find it, on the archive of the Sunday Guardian titled "Indian navy ship nearly collided with US navy tanker"
And my initial post was based on the long run, since with inducting more subs, cause they are not only a multiplier but also a big danger to warships and sea lines and since India is also on on the process of inducting hunter subs we should not let them have the edge on this.

 

[gslv mk3]

4 p8i's with each having 2200km of range at the moment, no doubt about having the sophisticated nature of the hardware but but if a fleet of them isnt added soon, during wartime they'd have to be deployed 24/7 along with the existing maritime patrol ACs and India has a huge maritime area to protect and crucial sea lines to maintain during wartime. And in case of any conflict between BD(which I dont predict much) India has to protect its maritime boundaries on more then one front.

I think a war with BD would not be much of problem.

The additions are going to be a massive force multiplier in the future, though im uncertain about their induction date cause of unavoidable delays and bureaucratic tangles(not only in case of IND) for now IN is vulnerable. kilos are very good class of subs but till then IN is vulnerable.

9 Kilos are in service,and its AIP Scorpenes that would be inducted from 2016