For a country that can only afford a couple of dozen submarines over the next 30 years, it makes no sense to build submarines locally as the cost will blow up beyond imagination.
We need submarine in numbers to be able to break naval blockades, and this can only be achieved by getting them on discounts from large builders.
BN has no plan to BUILD submarines - the submarine base is not intended for that purpose. Whoever told you that has no clue about what he is talking about.
If you're talking about designing and building the whole new sub locally from scratch independently then yes, it's not a good idea but gotta start somewhere. ToT is way to build the capability and numbers. Not only discount, shipbuilders offer ToT if you can spend bit more than $1 billion for three subs. (Judging by the Indonesian deal). If MRCA/frigate fund gets approved then i don't see any problem with that. We could get Chang Bogo, Type-39A or maybe Turkish one from STM.
Countries like Sweden, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, Indonesia, Pakistan, Brazil etc have less than 12 conventional subs in service but they are building subs locally. I am surprised that you're saying, "BN has no plan to BUILD submarines" when BN is trying build everything locally and PM's statement about technology transfer. It's too early to say that as more dockyards-shipyard is on the pipeline. Besides BN always kept us in dark about sub project. BNS Sheikh Hasina will have MRO facility. Not necessarily have to build submarine there. Shipyards can do that.
A combination of Sea Eagles (supersonic) and ATMACA (~250km range) would be good.
Sea Eagles is retired.
BN should R&D and build midget subs no dramas.
No need for that. Plenty designs out there, we can just buy and build them here. Besides like i said above we don't have the capability yet.
If we can afford it in the distant future, we should also add nuclear submarines: just a handful of these will go a long way towards countering any naval blockades.
Not gonna happen in 50 years like you're expecting. Nuclear submarines is for long endurance. Nuclear missile is a difference case though. Since BN will only operate in BoB and possibly in the Arabian sea, an AIP sub can cover that range (approximately 6000 km. Jang Bogo-class has 20000-15000 km range). AIP sub is more silent than a nuclear one, combine the idea of Korean KSS-III and Swedish A-26 with that and you get a potent submarine with less maintenance cost than nuclear sub.
Gotta build our own nuclear warhead, ballistic missile and reactor before thinking about nuclear sub. Surely India and the west won't sit around and let us do that, specially when we are a Muslim country blessed with considerable amount of anal loving radical idiots. Something like Korean+Swedish sub combo is the solution for now.
Let's say some Type 23 Frigates do come from the RN.
The question is....What will be the ASM used by BN?
The Harpoons are old and the RN was looking for a replacement.
Also, I doubt BN would even get access, as I think some agreements need to be in place before any transfer of the Harpoon to Bangladesh.
So then which is it?
Exocet? In light of recent events.
Otomat? Since we already use it?
ATMACA?
Interesting topic IMO.
Have a look at below to get some background info:
Babcock International announced that it has been awarded a further year contract extension to continue in-service support to the Harpoon Missile System for the Royal Navy.
www.navalnews.com
Otomat's teseo launcher is too bulky. We didn't get ATMACA yet. Don't think we will buy exocet. ATMACA or C-802 seems a bit bigger in length and diameter than Harpoon. But the ship seems to have more space. ⤵ Anyway if nothing works we can fit C-704 like we did in Castle class corvette.
I think the best way to counter such arguments (or should I say daydreaming?) is to refer to papers published by Bangladesh Navy officers. It looks like BN officers have a more realistic view about their nation's capabilities & do not neccessarily agree with BD members here who want BN to build frigates & submarines.
It's evident that Bangladesh lack the infrastructure, R&D capabilities & backward-linkage industries to undertake major Naval projects.
Before trolling Bihari Billy you better check what your own people do. Every time we buy something your people start saying, "Why's BD's arming itself?", "Who's their enemy", "Why BD needs so much arm?" blah blah blah, And when they ran out of things to say then they brings out the classic old dialogue as last resort, "We liberated you from Pakistan. You should be grateful".
And when they get angry more intense stuff comes out of their mouth. One got his twitter account suspended because of that. And this is not only coming from Indians though.
I haven't read the article but looks like the article is about necessity of local shipbuilding and the officer is identifying current obstacles to build warship locally. The headline make it quite clear, "TRANSFORMATION FROM BUYER’S TO BUILDER’S NAVY: A STRATEGIC CHOICE FOR BANGLADESH". And plan to build warship locally won't gonna stop because of a paper published in 2019. Already one new shipyard and dry dock is coming for shipbuilding and three new docks will be built for MRO.
DEARSAN has created a corvette / OPV ship family by taking its YTKB (Tuzla Class) experience forward. For example, the Turkmenistan navy was built from scratch. Here the main warship became the C92 corvettes (Han class missile corvettes).
In this sense, Dearsan is one of the most important companies that attaches importance to cooperation with friendly and brotherly countries and accumulated an important working experience in this field. Just in this month, the Nigerian navy signed contracts for the construction of two Dearsan OPV-76 corvettes.
Dearsan may be the first company in TR's private sector to be able to produce large-tonnage warships with its own sources and organization, independent of SSB projects. It is one of the most important players in the Turkish shipbuilding industry, which is not well known in foreign defense circles, but has a very strong organization. If there had been no military coup in Sudan, Dearsan was planning ro establish huge shipyard investment there. Agreements on this were completed, but the process was interrupted. Maybe Bangladesh can attract this investment to its own country.
Edit:
What i meant was:
There are very few private shipyards in the world that have achieved this level of military production capability.
Ummm i was actually laughing because that blabbering idiot saw Tuzla class as an "ideal next steps beyond what our Padma class offers" while actually both boats are almost same in dimension, performance and firepower. Well, nothing's wrong with being proved right again about that Ramchagol's missing connection between his brain and mouth.
Many of western countries have whole system including proper education, music classroom to teach their people about music since school. We don't have that luxury. আসল জিনিসেরই খবর নাই আবার এইগুলা।
