Bangladesh Navy

[Destranator]

I accept your logic fully but would say endurance is irrelevant from the perspective that do not believe any conflict will last beyond the endurance of diesel subs.

Our saving grace is the most crowded sea lanes in the planet. Any such conflict will immediately engage world powers.

Conflict near Andaman is still fairly localised so should not impact the global merchant routes enough for world powers to care too much or react quickly enough to save BD. I don't think Sri Lanka kicking and screaming would have any impact while Indonesia is friendly to India.
On the other hand, the mere thought of nuclear submarines sneaking up from behind would motivate India to avoid conflict at all costs in the first place.

 

[mb444]

Conflict near Andaman is still fairly localised so should not impact the global merchant routes enough for world powers to care too much or quickly enough. I don't think Sri Lanka kicking and screaming would have any impact while Indonesia is friendly to India.
On the other hand, the mere threat of nuclear submarines sneaking up from behind would motivate India to avoid conflict at all costs.

Not against nuclear submarines but BD can not afford it and is just a pipedream.

India BD wont go to war cause democracies however imperfect do not go to war against each other. I have to be honest do not see any scenarios other than hindutva idiots abandoning democracy can such a thing happen. And should it happen india would face off against pakistan and china before BD faces the music. It would make sense that they will pick on the weakest opponent which would be BD. But situation would progressively deteriorate, in this i would contend that world power would be fully engaged to arrest slide into actual conflict.

I disagree that conflict would be localised and ignored. India can not prosecute a war against BD without weakening its other borders.

Just as Myanmar may exploit the situation so would the Chinese and PK. They wont do it for our benefit. India can not afford a war with BD, there is really no end game here.

Bottom line for me neither BD or India has anything to gain by a war and has everything to loose.

In the same way i do not see any possibility of an actual conflict between India and Pakistan either.

Only potential conflict maybe china india albeit remote and india will come off worse. They did nothing against china simply taking over their territory. China apprantly occupies 38k sq km of indian territory and claims further 90k in AP.

 

[SMX 3.0]

Bangladesh has two Mings (much older than this). I hope we can build Agosta 90Bs (or equivalents) someday...

What happened to other priorities like education, health, hygiene? Bangladesh does piss poor in all these areas.

What level of economic development will Bangladesh get by spending money on subs and other naval assets?

Chest beating, propaganda, and BBS fakery won't help increase Bangladesh's GDP.

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I could have just stated that but hey, I am not @Bilal9.

I think the best way to counter such arguments (or should I say daydreaming?) is to refer to papers published by Bangladesh Navy officers. It looks like BN officers have a more realistic view about their nation's capabilities & do not neccessarily agree with BD members here who want BN to build frigates & submarines.

The source is Mirpur Papers, the research journal published by Defense Services Command & Staff College, Mirpur Cantt, Dhaka.

Commander K M Nazrul Islam, psc, BN (E), TRANSFORMATION FROM BUYER’S TO BUILDER’S NAVY: A STRATEGIC CHOICE FOR BANGLADESH, Mirpur Papers, Volume 25, Issue 29, September 2019

The paper lists a number of problems relating to warship building in Bangladesh.

It's evident that Bangladesh lack the infrastructure, R&D capabilities & backward-linkage industries to undertake major Naval projects.

Please do note that this was authored by a serving BN Commander & published by Bangladesh Military Staff College's very own research journal. No amount of personal attacks, whining or wailing will help counter these arguments.

 

[VikingRaider]

What happened to other priorities like education, health, hygiene?

Why don't you oil your own machine? It's our internal matter and that's not your concern! You better think about your own country India!

Besides, don't talk about hygiene. We don't defecate on street!

What level of economic development will Bangladesh get by spending money on subs and other naval assets?

There is a saying and that is , "Maintaing independence is harder than achieving it".

Military power are necessary to remain sovereign, and also it's very important to safeguard your economy. So please don't play cheap and obsolete techniques.

Try again using new tricks!

Chest beating, propaganda, and BBS fakery won't help increase Bangladesh's GDP.

Again that's not your concern. If you feel that you are doing better , maybe you should overlook such things and focus on increasing Indian GDP. No one is requesting your advise in order to increase Bangladesh GDP!

 

[SMX 3.0]

Why don't you oil your own machine? It's our internal matter and that's not your concern! You better think about your own country India

Again that's not your concern. If you feel that you are doing better , maybe you should overlook such things and focus on increasing Indian GDP. No one is requesting your advise how to increase Bangladesh GDP!

OK, Bangladeshi.

I have nothing more to tell you.

 

[X-ray Papa]

What happened to other priorities like education, health, hygiene? Bangladesh does piss poor in all these areas.

What level of economic development will Bangladesh get by spending money on subs and other naval assets?

Chest beating, propaganda, and BBS fakery won't help increase Bangladesh's GDP.

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I could have just stated that but hey, I am not @Bilal9.

I think the best way to counter such arguments (or should I say daydreaming?) is to refer to papers published by Bangladesh Navy officers. It looks like BN officers have a more realistic view about their nation's capabilities & do not neccessarily agree with BD members here who want BN to build frigates & submarines.

The source is Mirpur Papers, the research journal published by Defense Services Command & Staff College, Mirpur Cantt, Dhaka.

Commander K M Nazrul Islam, psc, BN (E), TRANSFORMATION FROM BUYER’S TO BUILDER’S NAVY: A STRATEGIC CHOICE FOR BANGLADESH, Mirpur Papers, Volume 25, Issue 29, September 2019

The paper lists a number of problems relating to warship building in Bangladesh.

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It's evident that Bangladesh lack the infrastructure, R&D capabilities & backward-linkage industries to undertake major Naval projects.

Please do note that this was authored by a serving BN Commander & published by Bangladesh Military Staff College's very own research journal. No amount of personal attacks, whining or wailing will help counter these arguments.

@waz @LeGenD Please Banned this panjeet, she has been derailing every thread in this section.

 

[Bilal9]

These sanghis have the gall to come in here and troll on our naval thread (I'd say reportable and ban-worthy offence) while their own Navy is a joke. Bring in batteries from this country, mini naval reactors from that country - cobble together a piece-of-$hit garbage-for-show and then forget to close the hatches before diving.

Someone Left a Hatch Open and Crippled India’s $2.9 Billion Submarine

Water damage put the submarine out of action for ten months.

www.popularmechanics.com

Instead of worrying about topping China they should worry about solving basic health and hygiene issues.

OK, Bangladeshi.

I have nothing more to tell you.

You are wasting too much time here, go catch up on all the Muslim hater articles in the Sanghi newsfeed, will make you sleep better.

For us though - pure entertainment.

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[VikingRaider]

OK, Bangladeshi.

I have nothing more to tell you.

Oh so you are just a copycat? Can't do anything by yourself?

Ok then listen , Indians pretend to be super power , so others can ask such question as challenge.

Bangladeshi people are only saying that we are developing, not pretending to become super power.

It's really hilarious that a country is pretending to be a super power and try to dominate it's neighborhood , but even can't feed their own hungry mouths!

So if you can come out from your super power delusion , no Bangladeshi will ever ask you such questions!

 

[SMX 3.0]

As I said before this was authored by a serving BN Commander & published by Bangladesh Military Staff College's very own research journal.

No amount of personal attacks, whining or wailing will help counter these arguments.

These sanghis have the gall to come in here and troll on our naval thread (I'd say reportable and ban-worthy offence) while their own Navy is a joke

Really?? I don't think so. Wait, even you doesn't think so.

Navy (in spite of the jokes we make) is probably the more powerful of all three armed services in India. Our Navy (sad fact) is nothing in front of Indian Naval experience and arsenal. Never underestimate your enemies.

Why make a fool out of yourself Billy-boy?

You know the reality.

Bring in batteries from this country, mini naval reactors from that country - cobble together a piece-of-$hit garbage

Please build basic shipbuilding infrastructure before opening your mouth and spewing crap.

You're the same fool who claimed that the Arihant is a copy of Akula... That says a lot about you...

As for Indians, we build 8000 tonne destroyers & SSBNs. We build both civilian and naval reactors on our own, much unlike your two patent an year swamp.

I will start praising your country when your unindustrialized swamp of nation can build a single component of a nuclear reactor.

 

[Muhammad Saftain Anjum]

Oye tu is thread mein b a gia

As I said before this was authored by a serving BN Commander & published by Bangladesh Military Staff College's very own research journal.

No amount of personal attacks, whining or wailing will help counter these arguments.



Really?? I don't think so. Wait, even you doesn't think so.



Why make a fool out of yourself Billy-boy?

You know the reality.



Please build basic shipbuilding infrastructure before opening your mouth and spewing crap.

You're the same fool who claimed that the Arihant is a copy of Akula... That says a lot about you...

As for Indians, we build 8000 tonne destroyers & SSBNs.

I will start praising your country when your unindustrialized swamp of nation can build a single component of a nuclear reactor.

 

[Bilal9]

Oye tu is thread mein b a gia

Sanghi fakery and propaganda has to be spread far and wide.

Really becoming a nuisance. Reported to the mods.

 

[SMX 3.0]

Indian fakery and propaganda has to be spread far and wide.

Really becoming a nuisance. Reported to the mods.

So quoting your Navy officers on your shipbuilding capability is propaganda & fakery? I wonder who is the authority on such matters, a serving BN officer or an internet troll like you.

We all have seen you posting whataboutist off topic BS in Indian military related threads. Stop pontificating while being a sorry excuse of a human being, Billy boy.

 

[Bilal9]

Guys can we all stop replying to these silly trolls , just block them all and they can’t really do much about it since no one will reply to them.

I "ignored" this girly man a long time ago.

 

[Bilal9]

Sincere Thanks to mod Bhais to take care of the nuisance...I will tone my posts down as well. Getting too reactionary these days....

 

[The Ronin]

Guys I was looking at Turkey's latest addition Tuzla Class Patrol boats and they seem to be ideal next steps beyond what our Padma class offers as far as modern, nimble handling and more of a practical design. I think we can strike a deal with the Turkish yards that built these beauties. We already use Turkish remote controlled 30 mm guns in our Padma class, so we already have naval defence contacts/connections in Turkey.

Tuzla Class is a bit bigger and heavier (400 tons, Padma class is 350 tons). But the design is far more modern and we could get ToT from Turkey rather easily I'm sure. I don't know if there are new Chinese designs for patrol boats of this size/displacement. The Tuzla class looks very similar to Austal's Patrol 40/60 designs. Or maybe similar stuff from Damen, Fassmer and Lurssen

two are already in the water and will be handed over to BN in December.

I hope we can build Agosta 90Bs (or equivalents) someday

When you open your mouth without using your brain and bit research.