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We don't hire child soldiers.
It is not about hiring child soldiers or not. With population of > 50M (Myanmar) or 160M (BD), an army number of 0.5M could be easily recruited from youth of age 18~25 for both country. Moreover, it's not about army number but equipment number.
Mordern world is not like WWII, an medium country as Myanmar and BD can not block ships in deep sea because in mordern world those ships may be with flag of any country, and it could cause big issue and anger EU, US or China. While in coastal waters, it is covered and protected by fighters inland, so here the air force is much more important than navy, unless you have big submarine squadron.
 
Why are you so sure . . ?
While . .
. .only one out of six frigates has an obsolete HQ 7 SHORAD and 40 mm CIWS, and the rest have no SAM or CIWS.

. . only four out of six frigates have SSMs.

. . three out of six frigates are more than 30 years old.

. . two out of six frigates are almost 50 years old.
lol..lets talk about ur navy...ohh,wait... zero significant naval asset in ur inventory.....even our corvettes carry better firepower thn ur so called Stealth trawlers..
 
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Bangladesh Navy Special Forces SWADS.
Fully trained in South Korea, US and Turkey.
Equipment: All NATO standard weapons and equipment.


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BN SWADS boarding a warship during ex with US Navy.

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Missile armed version of the the Padma class coastal patrol craft equipped with more powerful Oto Melara 76mm main gun, RWS and Marte 2N anti-ship missile is coming.

The Bangladesh Navy is benefiting from acquisition of European warship components such as missile, guns and sensors.

Existing and future Padma class coastal patrol craft may be fitted/equipped with such sensors as per official proposal/planning of stakeholders.

Exclusive to Defseca.com #Defseca #BangladeshNavy #KhulnaShipyard #MadeInBangladesh

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So this is where they got the photo from, eh? Hope that is true.

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These 6+2 frigates will be far too powerful for Myanmar
As already explained the next-gen frigates will be overkill for Myanmar

What made you so sure that they will always remain like that? They have India, Israel, China, Russia and Korea as supplier. West maybe good source for superior sensors but China and Russia's weapon inventory is lot better. Their ship design are potent and tech are very close to West. And they can buy Brahmos, Barak etc from India. So it's not so hard for them to build a formidable fleet to counter our's. We kept mocking them and look how they bought JF-17, Su-30, submarine and LPD. They already have Kh-35 AShM. So don't feel so comfy, underestimate Myanmar and worry about India only.

I reckon this is how it will go too. But I don’t know how bd plans to go about this... if bd will have new 2500 ton designs to build too or not
Without going into one of my TLDR heavily illustrated long-a$$ posts, a 2500 ton light frigate (like the Bangabandhu) has its role to be very different than a heavy 4500 ton frigate. It has to do with patrol range, endurance, blue/brown water role, assistance to other countries, type of expeditionary role and these are just a few things without even touching the main differentiation factors of weapons and sensor fit-out.

@Michael Corleone remember once there was a group discussion about heavy corvette like Gowind, Sigma and Gremyashchiy-class corvette? I think @Arthur vai is talking about that. Cause the Chinese only have two frigates design, both exceed 2500 ton displacement and only one saw export success. Nowadays frigate displaces 3000+ and corvette weighs less than 3000 tons usually. Unless someone classify them as frigate.

These are some of the concepts the Bangladesh Navy may consider to meet its requirement for Large Patrol Craft II (Anti-Surface Warfare) Project in 2020.

All of the candidates have strong features that ensure they are considered in the short list.

They are all armed with 8 x Exocet anti-ship missiles, which have anti-ship and land attack capability at 180 km. The warships can be fully integrated with Bangladesh Armed Forces existing IFF and Tactical Data Link, Bangla-22.

These warships have a range of between 2,000 to 2,500 nautical miles with maximum speeds of over 27 knots.

They are fitted with their own Combat Information Centre (CIC) and the latest generation navigation radar systems, fire control radar systems, electro-optical targeting systems, remote weapons systems, mine laying capabilities and limited anti-air warfare capabilities.

Stealth is is one of the primary considerations of the project with emphasis laid out for low signature emitting systems, coatings and fittings.

The Bangladesh Navy is having the craft built fully indigenously at the Khulna Shipyard, which has delivered LPC I (Durjoy class) and Padma class (CPC) successfully.

The displacement, sensors and combat systems all indicate the craft as being more like corvettes than minor patrol craft.

Khulna Shipyard will mass produce a successful design with Transfer of Technology from Western countries.

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The last two don't qualify in displacement. But the third one looks good.

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Why are you so sure . . ?
While . .
. .only one out of six frigates has an obsolete HQ 7 SHORAD and 40 mm CIWS, and the rest have no SAM or CIWS.

. . only four out of six frigates have SSMs.

. . three out of six frigates are more than 30 years old.

. . two out of six frigates are almost 50 years old.

First of all calm down your tits. One hour my ***!! :lol: How did you came to such BS conclusion? :omghaha: That easy eh? :omghaha::cuckoo: It's true that our air force currently sucks but it's not like those 8 Migs and F-7s won't try to stop you from doing any misadventure in BoB. You gotta deal with them first. Neither our ships will wait in line in one place to get hit by JF-17. One frigate with FM-90 and four C-13B with FL-3000N are still enough to counter your cruise missile. They will have to face CIWS, naval gun, decoy launcher and ECM too.

Two more frigates with FM-90 are coming in December and two more under negotiation probably. Once the new generation frigate gets inducted your hunky punky will stop for a long time. And you forgot about other military wings and assets which will mobilize against should any provocation happen like you said.

Can‘t understand why BD spends so much on navy compared to land force and air force. I have recently done some summarize on military structure of different countries and found that BD has such a small land force and air force compared to its population.
eg. With similar military budget, Myanmar has as many as 5 armored division while BD has only 2 armored bridage. Myanmar has 6 squadrons of fighters while BD has only 2.5 squadrons.
Without enough fighters cover the heavens, ships , except submarine, can not even sail out of the port. And weak land force may make you lose your whole basement including port and airport. So generally a country will set up land force first, then air force and last navy, while BD is in the opposite direction.

Who said BD don't spend on army and air force? :what: Army has the most money and they are currently getting and working on lot more things. Three new division, New rifle production line, SMG, MANPAD, RPG, 1 regiment 155mm towed howitzer, 105mm towed and self-propelled howitzer, 120mm towed and self-propelled mortar, Type B, Type A GMLRS, 120 light tanks, 1 regiment amphibious tanks, MRAP vehicle, LCT, helicopter, transport aircraft, radar and so more. One armored division will be formed i think under FG 2030.

Air force is getting radar, helicopter, transport aircraft and trainer. If you check old threads you will see. Only MRCA, MR-SAM and frigate programs are delayed because of some technical and political reason as they are trying to diversify. But they are working on it, it's coming soon as BAF chief confirmed it and an official confirmed it today including attack helicopter.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...rement-of-high-end-military-equipment-from-us
 
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Good news!! KSY signed contract for two new LPC (not sure which one though) and will build new frigates besides CDDL.

2 more Durjoy Class. And a light frigate based on Shadhinota Class (Hope with ASW this time) in 1800-2000 ton class. Chinese recently showed a C13B variant with ASW.


Alhamdulilah!

Expected commission date is about 11/2022 if going as per recent history.

Curious as to what direction they went.
Right on the timeline bro. All to be commissioned by late 2022.

CDDL will build the next generation frigates.
NATO origin LPCs will most probably go to DEW.
KSY wants a pie in the frigate build hence the light frigate program goes to them.

good going.
 
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One armored division will be formed i think under FG 2030.
Well again it‘s your wish. Generally an armored division, if following Indian army’s structure, you need 3 armored briadges and 1 SPG briadge, which means 6 armored battalion, 3 mechanic battalion, 2 SPG battalion and 1 MLRS battalion, that is around 300 MBT, 150 IFV/APC, 36 SPG and 18 MLRS.
So 1. BD army has 270 MBT but distributed to 2 different division-11th division and 55th division, for each division has only less than 130 units; 2. the 120 light tanks is actually IFV, and can not fullfill the MBT roles 3. Nora B-52 is not suitable for division level of fire supplementary, and it is wheeled and can not follow tracked wheel MBT, but BD army has no tracked wheel SPG 4. No SPG motar for battalion.
What makes me surpise is, in Wiki it states that MM has only 279 MBT, but after done some reasearch, in their army structure, one of their armored division contain 88 units of MBT, which means Wiki has underestimate MM's MBT, which should be larger than 440 units.

Air force is getting radar, helicopter, transport aircraft and trainer.
All of those equipments can not survive in a war without enough fighters to cover the sky.
 
a light frigate based on Shadhinota Class (Hope with ASW this time) in 1800-2000 ton class.

How many types of frigate they are gonna build? :what: You just talked about 2500 tons frigate a while ago. They are talking about frigate project with CDDL. I think they are gonna build the six next frigate jointly with CDDL in their new yard.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...angladesh-navy-shipyard.629054/#post-11657419

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Chinese recently showed a C13B variant with ASW.

Can you post the photo here?

Air Force guy is shit
The difference in quality between BA, BN and their poor cousin BAF is so obvious.

Well, haven't watched this video yet but BAF official confirmed MRCA, MR-SAM and Apache helicopter purchase. Though BAF chief already confirmed it. Still have a feeling something happened in Dubai Airshow.

Diamond aircraft confirmed by Lt Col for Army Aviation. Army has nearly 200,000 personnel (obviously more), new MLRS regiment joining, 3 Corps confirmed as well.


He kept saying current govt. but current govt was from 2008
Mig 29 ultra advanced? Pfft

Same old shit in every armed forces day talk show in every year. And amount of oiling they do!! Jeez!! I hope USA just don't find out these oil mine. :lol:

Well again it‘s your wish. Generally an armored division, if following Indian army’s structure, you need 3 armored briadges and 1 SPG briadge, which means 6 armored battalion, 3 mechanic battalion, 2 SPG battalion and 1 MLRS battalion, that is around 300 MBT, 150 IFV/APC, 36 SPG and 18 MLRS.
So 1. BD army has 270 MBT but distributed to 2 different division-11th division and 55th division, for each division has only less than 130 units; 2. the 120 light tanks is actually IFV, and can not fullfill the MBT roles 3. Nora B-52 is not suitable for division level of fire supplementary, and it is wheeled and can not follow tracked wheel MBT, but BD army has no tracked wheel SPG 4. No SPG motar for battalion.
What makes me surpise is, in Wiki it states that MM has only 279 MBT, but after done some reasearch, in their army structure, one of their armored division contain 88 units of MBT, which means Wiki has underestimate MM's MBT, which should be larger than 440 units.

Army has more than 80 MLRS and 1000+ APC. Not all BD terrains are suited for heavy tanks. As i said more tanks, MRLS with longer range, SP mortar are coming and they have plans to buy IFV (probably 70 for now) and SPG (tracked/wheeled, both or one. Not sure). Whatever we need and lack will be full-filled eventually under FG 2030.

All of those equipments can not survive in a war without enough fighters to cover the sky.

Well you can not deploy your fighters effectively if you don't have full air surveillance coverage. BD already established ADIZ. Now they are plugging blind spots of BAF's high-level radars such as the RAT-31DL/Ms. The way they are going it looks like they are achieving full air surveillance and full trainer fleet with proper training capability first while working on MRCA , MR-SAM and self-sufficiency on MRO and manufacturing.

MRCA, MR-SAM and attack helicopter purchase is confirm but question is when they are gonna sign/announce the deal or fighter will come. Or did they already sign the deal?

http://www.caab.gov.bd/aip/sup/aipsup01-18.pdf
https://quwa.org/2019/10/30/bangladesh-orders-aesa-air-defence-radars-from-leonardo/
 
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Well again it‘s your wish. Generally an armored division, if following Indian army’s structure, you need 3 armored briadges and 1 SPG briadge, which means 6 armored battalion, 3 mechanic battalion, 2 SPG battalion and 1 MLRS battalion, that is around 300 MBT, 150 IFV/APC, 36 SPG and 18 MLRS.
So 1. BD army has 270 MBT but distributed to 2 different division-11th division and 55th division, for each division has only less than 130 units; 2. the 120 light tanks is actually IFV, and can not fullfill the MBT roles 3. Nora B-52 is not suitable for division level of fire supplementary, and it is wheeled and can not follow tracked wheel MBT, but BD army has no tracked wheel SPG 4. No SPG motar for battalion.
What makes me surpise is, in Wiki it states that MM has only 279 MBT, but after done some reasearch, in their army structure, one of their armored division contain 88 units of MBT, which means Wiki has underestimate MM's MBT, which should be larger than 440 units.

All of those equipments can not survive in a war without enough fighters to cover the sky.

Let's not pollute the thread with off topic discussion - this is a Navy thread, and 'sticky' as well. Your input is valuable and it is appreciated, but let's discuss in the right thread.
 
Good news!! KSY signed contract for two new LPC (not sure which one though) and will build new frigates besides CDDL.

so that tender just was a eye wash then??they have alrdy finalised the design and arranmnt..:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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