Bangladesh:Gunfight at BDR headquarters

[Skies]

I would like to ask her a question that

"when she is going to bring to book all those who have killed the brave and intelligent, talented officers of Bangladesh Army during recent mutiny just because most of them were graduated from NDU Pakistan."

Is that meaning that the graduated officers from NDU Pakistan were targeted intentionally? Are you sure? If this is true then it was not any mutiny but a planned………………………………………………..

God knows how authentic the mutiny report by the govt is!

Can any one say how many were graduated from PK out of total killed officers?

 

[eastwatch]

No its not. You want to believe it is so, so you can justify being negative against India.

Please, atleast be logical and consider reality. The fundamental assumption of your hypothesis is that India would not want a militarily strong BD. This is already wrong. BD is already very weak militarily.

Yes, comparing to India, BD is weak in military strength. But, on the other hand BD is at least twenty times stronger than when it was called east Pakistan. BD does not need a war, it needs economic progress. But, a day will come when the leadership will seek a stronger military that is at par with its economic progress.

By the way, even if we are a weak country, India needs to mobilize at least 600,000 troops in our border to win a decisive battle. Can India do it in reality by vacating all other borders? I doubt it. So, your strength bears little value. At least, we will not be as beaten as India was beaten by China in 1962.

 

[Trichy]

Yes, comparing to India, BD is weak in military strength. But, on the other hand BD is at least twenty times stronger than when it was called east Pakistan. BD does not need a war, it needs economic progress. But, a day will come when the leadership will seek a stronger military that is at par with its economic progress.

By the way, even if we are a weak country, India needs to mobilize at least 600,000 troops in our border to win a decisive battle. Can India do it in reality by vacating all other borders? I doubt it. So, your strength bears little value. At least, we will not be as beaten as India was beaten by China in 1962.

seriously gud joke man

 

[eastwatch]

seriously gud joke man

Yes, I am happy to note your sense of joke. But, if you ask your military analysts about this joke, their answer will cause you more laugh. So, go ahead and ask them.

 

[Al-zakir]

Wed, Apr 7th, 2010 5:27 pm BdST

29 convicted in BDR Trial
Saiful Alam Babu

Panchagarh, Apr 7 (bdnews24.com) — A special BDR court on Wednesday has sentenced 13 riflesmen to 7 years of rigorous imprisonment for committing rebellion in Panchagarh.

In the first verdict involving charges linked to the BDR mutiny of Feb 25-26, 2009, the special court in Panchagarh, found all 29 accused in the case, guilty of rebellion 'beyond reasonable doubt' according to the court.

They were accused of rebellion in support of the massacre at the BDR Pilkhana headquarters on Feb 25 and 26 last year and of them 13 were sentenced to prison for the maximum period stipulated by the relevant act.

The remaining 16 were sentenced to rigorous imprisonment for different terms ranging from between six years and 4 months. Of them 1 was given a prison sentence for 6 years, 1 for 4 years, 6 for 3 years, 2 for 2 years, 5 for 13 months and 1 for 4 months.

The accused were also fined Tk 100 each.

Director general of the Bangladesh Rifles, Major General Moinul Islam presided over the court which sat at 4.20pm for giving the first verdict on mutiny.

The BDR chief claimed that that all of the accused were given legal support during the trial, which included allowing the accused to hire lawyers for advice during trial.

But their lawyers were not allowed to cross examine.

The convicted BDR men openly demonstrated their dissatisfaction about the verdict and the trial as they shouted their protest against the verdict.

The court set the verdict date on Tuesday after five days of proceedings spanning for about 18 hours and a half beginning on Feb 3.

The prison terms of the convicts are set to begin from the day of the verdict, said the court.

During the proceedings, the court heard charges against 29 BDR members on Feb 3 and 4.

Charges were framed on April 4. The court heard from witnesses the next day.

The BDR chief said the court took three issues under consideration — upholding rules and regulations of the border guards and internal discipline of a force deployed for the security of state.

The court also considered the confessions and pleas for clemency to expedite the trial.

He added that the evidence had proved the charges of mutiny against the accused and established their involvement.

The 29 were sent to prison under tight security after the verdict.

Lt Col Mahfuzur Rahman and Maj Didar Al Latif were on the judge's panel with the BDR chief.

Deputy attorney general Biswajit Roy assisted the court and advocate Mosharraf Hossain Kajol and Monjurul Alam assisted the prosecutor.

Mosarraf told the journalists that justice had been done.

BDR prosecutor Sirajul Haque told journalists that no one would dare become a rebel in future.

The accused are as follows:
Assistant corporal Manzur Hossain, lance corporal Siddiqur Rahman, private Gias Uddin, private Shafiqur Rahman, private Mahibur Rahman, private Mehadi Hasan, private Mehadi Hasan, private SM Shumon Ahmed, private Abdul Karim, Lance corporal Md Zakaria, private Monowar Hossain, Lance corporal Nuruzzaman and private Monir Hossain each got 7 years of jail sentence.

Lance Corporal Zahidul Islam was sentenced to six years in prison and private Waheduzzaman for four.

Private Abu Mohammad Nazer Chowdhury, private Balai Chandra Biswas, private Ahsanul Azam, private Masudul Karim, private Mostafizur Rahman and private Kamal Chandra Roy got three years.

Private Anamul Kabir and Lance Corporal Aktaruzzaman were given two years.

Private Lutfur Rahman, private Faruq Hossain, Sergent Rafiqul Islam, private Fasier Rahman and private Mozammel Haque for one year.

Private Mizanur Rahman was given a four-month sentence.

bdnews24.com/corr/mi/aam/ta/2046h

 

[Skies]

Cross post to avoid thread derailing:

Nobody wants to please India, but India has successfully initiated the BDR mutiny, we have to remember that. India wants to keep BD destabilized and wants to fish in the troubled water.

If any strong proof is not available about India was involved with BDR mutiny then give me some clues, so that if I can understand that India was really involved in that BDR-crime.

 

[sab]

Yes, I am happy to note your sense of joke. But, if you ask your military analysts about this joke, their answer will cause you more laugh. So, go ahead and ask them.

You are a joker indeed. Indo-China war of 1962 is not even considered war. Rather it is termed as border skirmishes. India could hardly mobilised around ten thousand soldiers. The clash was restricted in infantry level. Casualies in Indian side was around 3000. Yes it was a set back for India that is true. But there is no need to create a India- BD war scenario unnecessarily. Some of you have no other jobs other than spreading hatred against India, but we know BD is not consist of only 7-8 people like you.

 

[Kinetic]

Yes, comparing to India, BD is weak in military strength. But, on the other hand BD is at least twenty times stronger than when it was called east Pakistan. BD does not need a war, it needs economic progress. But, a day will come when the leadership will seek a stronger military that is at par with its economic progress.

By the way, even if we are a weak country, India needs to mobilize at least 600,000 troops in our border to win a decisive battle. Can India do it in reality by vacating all other borders? I doubt it. So, your strength bears little value. At least, we will not be as beaten as India was beaten by China in 1962.

Dreaming is good but day dreaming is very dangerous.

I don't think India will need to fight BD, but if there is a situation when some anti-India elements like BNP-Jamat extemists come to power and force India for a fight. Than it will take 24 hours to take over BD and we might be signing in another surrender paper in Dhaka. It is BD's luck that they are surrounded by India and no one will dare to attack them. One small portion of border you have with Myanmar but still so many problems!!

Bangladesh is no more east Pakistan we know, but BD is weaker than EP because Rajakars and Al Badrs are still very much active.

Also read the history first India-China war in 62 was not a full scale war no air fore or navy was involved. Don't try to take other's pride to hide your weakness. Ohhh sorry you don't have anything to pride.

Thanks God, most of the people in BD don't think like you, otherwise this shouldn't be good for them.

 

[Skies]

Evidence proves plots behind BDR rebellion in B'desh: Anisur Rahman

Agencies
Tags : bdr headquarters, mokaid mohamad ali, anisur rahman, rawshan firoz

Posted: Wed Oct 27 2010, 17:48 hrs
Dhaka:

Bangladesh authorities on Wednesday claimed that they had more evidence to prove that there was a plot behind the last year's bloody mutiny at the BDR headquarters here that left 74 people dead, mostly army officers.

"We now have more evidence proving a plot behind the mutiny," prosecutor Major Mokaid Mohamad Ali told a press briefing as the paramilitary border force exposed 42 more suspected rebels to trial in western frontier district of Jessore on rebellion charges.

Citing an example he said a week ahead of the mutiny BDR soldier Mohammad Khairul Islam had suddenly asked his superior Major Rawshan Firoz of the paramilitary force's Record Wing "Sir, what is the punishment of mutiny in BDR?"

"In reply Firoz said the mutineers" would face "death penalty" when the soldier said "No, sir, under the BDR Act the highest punishment is seven years of imprisonment". This proves there was a plan behind the (February 25-26, 2009) rebellion," Ali said.

The prosecutor said this yesterday when a paramilitary court here indicted 337 suspected BDR mutineers for their alleged role rebellion that saw the killing 74 people including 57 military officers serving on deputation in the border force.

Officials said nearly 2,000 soldiers were so far faced with trial in Dhaka and different frontier districts and more others were likely to be charged to be tried in phases in the 11 paramilitary courts in frontier districts.

Criminal Investigation Department (CID) of police in July this year formally charged 801 BDR soldiers and 23 civilians for the carnage as the massacre culprits to be exposed to the Speedy Trial Tribunal after months of investigations.

The suspects were charged with offences including attempt to murder, injuring the officers with dangerous weapons, holding officers and their families' hostage, looting the armoury, using firearms without authority and destroying evidence of murders by hiding bodies.

"The rebel soldiers mowed their officers down in cold blood, using some 2,500 weapons which they had looted from the BDR armoury," chief investigator of criminal investigation department (CID) Abdul Kahhar Akand said told newsmen after submitting the charge sheet.

But, former BDR chief Major General Mainul Islam, who took over the charge of the paramilitary force after the rebellion, earlier said their investigations did not suggest that the killings were "pre-planned" despite a plot behind the mutiny.

He added that during the BDR's own investigations it was found that the renegade soldiers were disorganised and when "the first gunfire was shot by a rebel soldier, another fellow renegade soldier cried out saying this was not supposed to be".

"Rather malicious rumours spread by a section of mutineers and some other over enthusiastic people caused the carnage, claiming lives of our 57 army officers,” said Islam, who now serves as the chief of general staff (CGS) of Bangladesh army as a lieutenant general.

Investigators earlier said that initially 40 to 50 BDR men started the mutiny while most of the paramilitary soldiers took up weapons "voluntarily or reluctantly" and carried out the killings, destructions and lootings.

A high-powered government investigation committee earlier had said the demands or grievances of the BDR soldiers, which were initially thought to have sparked the mutiny at the onset of the rebellion as claimed the masked soldiers before the media, were found to be unacceptable to the committee as reasons for staging the rebellion.

It said a certain quarter staged the mutiny using a sense of deprivation of the ordinary BDR soldiers but only a few BDR men knew about killing plot while several BDR soldiers who apparently opposed the massacre and several civilians and an army soldier were also killed during the mutiny beyond the 57 army officers.

The report, however, bluntly admitted the real causes and objectives of the gruesome incident could not be ascertained clearly and it requires further investigations".


S: Evidence proves plots behind BDR rebellion in B'desh: Anisur Rahman

 

[eastwatch]

Dreaming is good but day dreaming is very dangerous.

I don't think India will need to fight BD, but if there is a situation when some anti-India elements like BNP-Jamat extemists come to power and force India for a fight. Than it will take 24 hours to take over BD and we might be signing in another surrender paper in Dhaka.
Thanks God, most of the people in BD don't think like you, otherwise this shouldn't be good for them.

You are wrong in all your asseessments. Most of the BD people do not think a **** about India and its army. Most of the BD people will eagerly fight a guerrilla war against India, and any war imposed by India will not give you any tangible results in even 24 years. Forget about your 24 hr assessment.

Do you know how many months it will take for Indian army to mobilize around our border? You do not have a knowledge about this, so you are bragging of 24 hrs. Ignorance is a blessing for some people like you.

 

[InPhilTraitor]

You are wrong in all your asseessments. Most of the BD people do not think a **** about India and its army. Most of the BD people will eagerly fight a guerrilla war against India, and any war imposed by India will not give you any tangible results in even 24 years. Forget about your 24 hr assessment.

Do you know how many months it will take for Indian army to mobilize around our border? You do not have a knowledge about this, so you are bragging of 24 hrs. Ignorance is a blessing for some people like you.

Eastwatch, as always you are right. Bangladesh is Super Power. Just wondering, how much time will it take a squadron from Tezpur to visit Dhaka?

 

[eastwatch]

Eastwatch, as always you are right. Bangladesh is Super Power. Just wondering, how much time will it take a squadron from Tezpur to visit Dhaka?

Don't you see how a real Superpower USA along with many other mini Superpowerrs with more than 500,000 troops are fighting a war against only a tiny 93,000 Taliban troops in Afghanistan? So, what do you expect of us if you try a misadventure on our tiny land even with a big 3 million troops? Just a walk over? I bet, it will not happen the way you want. It will end the way we want. But, do you have the capacity to wage a war against us? Bangladesh is not an unarmed and unprotected Muslim ghetto in Ahmedabad of Gujrat, do not forget that.

 

[Skies]

BD is a super peaceful country who has no policy to destabilize it's neighbors. But if BD will walk in any other direction or any war with India, then India will split into pieces. Still seven sisters belong to India because BD is very gentle. Otherwise...................................

 

[justanobserver]

But if BD will walk in any other direction or any war with India, then India will split into pieces. Still seven sisters belong to India because BD is very gentle. Otherwise-----

Why why why!!!

It's almost as if you want to be a laughing stock ! And then you'll claim of Indians being bossy

 

[jha]

You are wrong in all your asseessments. Most of the BD people do not think a **** about India and its army. Most of the BD people will eagerly fight a guerrilla war against India, and any war imposed by India will not give you any tangible results in even 24 years. Forget about your 24 hr assessment.

Do you know how many months it will take for Indian army to mobilize around our border? You do not have a knowledge about this, so you are bragging of 24 hrs. Ignorance is a blessing for some people like you.

Considering the fact that Bangladesh borders West bengal..which is not far from Bihar and UP..So, i guess enough Army can be mobilized in 12-15 hours at max..