Bangladesh - dawn of Islamism

[Centaur]

I m an indian now

I didn't read your long message thoroughly. As I know what your types will repeat in every msg . However you are not Indian, but one of those Indian dalal pseudo hindutva who pretend to be secular. Peoples like you still spoil BD social networks but nobody now care about you guys and mock guys like you, so you posted such picture in a Pakistani forum because they don't know how much you guys are neglected and virtually been beaten by oppositions.

Btw,even No Indian (unless he is direct R.S.S) can be such worse ( like their sycophants aka pseudo seculars of BD ( hindutva aka Indian dalal munafiq) in Bangladesh, IMO.

I have no taste to continue this discussion with a pseudo sanghi agent like you .
End of discussion .

 

[Neptune_]

I didn't read your long message thoroughly. As I know what your types will write again and again. However you are not Indian, but one of those Indian dalal pseudo hindutva who pretend to be secular. Peoples like you still spoil BD social networks but nobody now don't care about you guys and mock guys like you, so you posted such picture in a Pakistani forum because they don't know how much you guys are neglected and virtually been beaten by oppositions.

Didn't I know that that u wouldn't manage to make a logical response to my post? Ofcourse I knew it. Intellectually bankrupt imbecile folk like u r good at Barking and throwing tantrums only.


What do u think? Couldn't I respond to u in similar fashion? But should I bite a dog that's just bitten me? Ofcourse not. If I Do that then what's the difference between me and the dog?

U r just a dumbed down version of those fundamentalist tools who took it as their holy duty to hack atheist bloggers to death. Actually, instead of getting mad at u I m finding ur childish outburst rather amusing. I will again post similar image if I find it suitable for the situation. U keep on Barking cuz that's one of the very few things u lot r good at.

Btw,even No Indian (unless he is direct R.S.S) can be such worse ( like their sycophants aka pseudo seculars ( hindutva aka Indian dalal munafiq) in Bangladesh, IMO. I have no taste to continue this discussion with a pseudo sanghi agent like you .
End of discussion .

U sound like a class A hypocrite. Unlike hypocrite like u I condemn both RSS and Islamist at the same time.

RSS didn't hesitate to hack couple of poor Indian Muslims to death since the presence of beef in their bag hurt their religious sensitivity while Islamist scums in Bangladesh did the same to avejeet.

Problem is hypocrites like u dance around and tear ur vocal cord to show ur protest against RSS who attacked the poor Muslims but call hinduvita fake secular to those who condemns the attack on bloggers.

 

[Centaur]

Some BD RSS dogs are barking here , really feeling sick because I have allergies with barking of such hindutva boot licker BD street dogs.
So this sub sector of PDF became the place of barking BD sanghi dogs , who take the opportunity when someone decided not to reply directly to those R.S.S scum by replying there filthy posts.
Filthy dogs are spoiling atmosphere, this subforum is becoming garbage like their ( BD sanghi scum ) Facebook wall.
I even don't spit on them as my spit is not so nasty , it's after all generate from my mouth.
It looks the distasteful traitors are really paid by R.S.S.
Such creepy monsters those traitors are.

Sanghi off shoots of BD are even infecting a Pakistani forum like every BD sites.

Such munafiq only criticize their patron Lord sanghis when they are caught and lashed on their butt. Then pretend to be seculars.
This is the true face of those Islam hater BD filths who equate Islamic culture as source of all crimes and terrorism,but pretend that they are only blaming Islamic terrorism.
But when the dogs are unveiled, then pretend that they also criticize sanghis ; what nasty lier they are!

 

[Skies]

Let the majority of the people decide their way. And the only way is the continue the course of Free Election (in every 5 years).

If BNP comes, that not the end, they must also ensure fair election after 5 years. If BNP comes through a fair election (I mean through the power of people), the peace will remain until next 5 years. If fair election is given, the loser party will not be able to create any chaos, because people will not simply support them.

If BAL is elected again in fair election, then we will know that people has rejected BNP. Then BNP has to hide its face for next 5 years, and peace will be maintained.

I hope BNP comes through fair election and work for the development of the common people and reduce the income gap among citizens, not the GDP gap with any other country which ultimately will happen. But if BNP comes into power with the help of Army/foreign power e.g. India/USA, the problem will remain as BAL will be making issues which are good in.

So the next govt has to come through the fair election by the people, not any external force. However, I do not believe there will be any fair election and BAL will continue easily beating the *** of common people.

Also in case of fair election, BNP has to make sure that they do not spend their next 5 years of time in taking revenge on BAL. Doing so will simply continue the course of violence. But if BNP becomes intelligence, and considers doing only development (not revenge on BAL), the peace will sustain for next 20 years.

So onus is on BAL for decide the fate of BD. But BAL is simply remain BAL and no peace is possible for next 5 to 10 years but violence.

 

[313ghazi]

The light of Islam cannot be estinguished. Since 1971 the enemies of Islam have fought to finish Islam and Islamic identity in what we know today as Bangladesh. Today you have a country in servitude to India, where the government and the powerful liberal elite are legalising prositution, and the pious are persecuted. The persecution only brings them closer to their lord. In the end the people of Bangladesh will have to decide again if they are Bangla first or Muslim first.

 

[Centaur]

Let the majority of the people decide their way. And the only way is the continue the course of Free Election (in every 5 years).

If BNP comes, that not the end, they must also ensure fair election after 5 years. If BNP comes through a fair election (I mean through the power of people), the peace will remain until next 5 years. If fair election is given, the loser party will not be able to create any chaos, because people will not simply support them.

If BAL is elected again in fair election, then we will know that people has rejected BNP. Then BNP has to hide its face for next 5 years, and peace will be maintained.

I hope BNP comes through fair election and work for the development of the common people and reduce the income gap among citizens, not the GDP gap with any other country which ultimately will happen. But if BNP comes into power with the help of Army/foreign power e.g. India/USA, the problem will remain as BAL will be making issues which are good in.

So the next govt has to come through the fair election by the people, not any external force. However, I do not believe there will be any fair election and BAL will continue easily beating the *** of common people.

Also in case of fair election, BNP has to make sure that they do not spend their next 5 years of time in taking revenge on BAL. Doing so will simply continue the course of violence. But if BNP becomes intelligence, and considers doing only development (not revenge on BAL), the peace will sustain for next 20 years.

So onus is on BAL for decide the fate of BD. But BAL is simply remain BAL and no peace is possible for next 5 to 10 years but violence.

I think a third party can be better alternative as we saw both BNP and awami regime .
A 3rd party can boost our politics. In Pakistan we saw a strong 3rd party that is tehrik e insaf .
In BD we need such a party IMHO .

 

[Skies]

I think a third party can be better alternative as we saw both BNP and awami regime .
A 3rd party can boost our politics. In Pakistan we saw a strong 3rd party that is tehrik e insaf .
In BD we need such a party IMHO .

It is very surprising and amazing to see that Pakistan (internationally known as intolerant society) has great political freedom. Imran Khan is doing Jalsha on the streets with complete freedom and no barrier from their govt.

But in Bangladesh, there is no one who can come forward without aligning with BAL or BNP. He has to die in wrath of these two parties, especially BAL, BNP might be ok. Even Ershad and Jammat with its considerable fan followers had to be aligned with BNP/BAL.

Yunus tried but harassed. Actually, the people of Bangladesh will be not enough lucky to see any 3rd party in power.

 

[24 Hours]

Then you know nothing about present day Bangladesh. Bangladeshi hindutva is not established by majority Hindus, but majority boot lickers are from Muslims family I.e nadia Islam, and many more. Hindus are only few in women chapter and such blogs and also the Neo BJP in Bangladesh.
But many chetona aka Indian chamcha leftist paid thugs are actually hindutva and in BD hindutva cult most of yellow journalist are included.
I suggest you to follow Mr pinaki bhattacharya. You may not like him, Still you can find many stromg comparative status .
However I don't look for such guys ( cult) nowadays always.
So can't name you all, you can find by yourself if you search with impartial mind.

This fringes on conspiracy theories. Look at the Hindu Nationalist, they say similar things about liberals being Islamists etc. Same thing goes for European nationalists as well. What you're saying doesn't make you any different.

If someone criticize Islam I have no problem. I have prow with their style, they don't criticize, but they just bash with malignity, and that can't be a secular way of criticism.

I agree with this but when someone goes for the kill or threatens to kill, the only one that looks bad is the killer. When Rushdie wrote the Satanic Verses no one cared because that book was a huge step down from his previous works. Then when he was listed for execution by Khomeini and then he gets protected status. And his books gets unwarranted praise even if it's mediocre. Similar thing happened to Tasmila Nasrin, not an amazing writer but Islamists threatening her only boosted her reputation. That's just the way the world works.

Where in Bangladesh? You are kidding right? If there are plenty of criticism in BD about Hinduism too, Show me a single article where someone is bashing hindusim in the name of criticism.
On the other hand the blogs are full of anti Islamic haters , but it looks people like you love to ignore those.

Of course Islam being the dominant religion in BD will face far more criticism compared to Hinduism. That's a fact. Your link gave out a few mentions of Hindu practices of the caste system and sati.

 

[Centaur]

It is very surprising and amazing to see that Pakistan (internationally known as intolerant society) has great political freedom. Imran Khan is doing Jalsha on the streets with complete freedom and no barrier from their govt.

The straight forward answer is , pakistanis don't suffer from identity crisis that we do .
Here in BD we are taught to bash Islam , Muslim , mocking mumin and any Islamic tradition as radical Islam. In order to prove ourselves as liberal and indeed and mukti zuddher chetona dhari ( spirit aka cult of of 1971 ) ,we need to do such heinous act every single time ,in order to prove that we are credible and better ( perhaps best? ) Nation in the world .
So indeed such filthy inferiority complex made us totally spineless .
We proclaim ourselves Superior by this way but we can't stop hero worship so we vote for political mafia familiies despite their all filthy works and then proclaim ourselves as the most rational nation ; we are complete opposite in reality.
That's the reason other political parties know that they will never ever be elected by BD filths
If they don't make alliance with two big mafia family named BAL and BNP .
So in future if the family dynasty will end and they can choose new leader , then we might have some hope .
After all BNP is a continuation of Muslim league.
And also awami league is not the property of mujib family .
But back bone less BD folks keep their aligence two those mafia familiies , and the results is present days bangladesh polical condition.
After all if you don't try to help yourself , Allah the most merciful Lord will not help you .
Finally , pakistanis have spine , self respect , dignity , honor , self identity as Muslim nation , And we lack everything.
We are just barking dogs who shout much but in reality we are good for nothing and subservient and sycophants to others , whom we get opportunity we start licking them .
If some days we can grow some spine , surely we will have much better condition inshallah.

But in Bangladesh, there is no one who can come forward without aligning with BAL or BNP. He has to die in wrath of these two parties, especially BAL, BNP might be ok. Even Ershad and Jammat with its considerable fan followers had to be aligned with BNP/BAL.

Yunus tried but harassed. Actually, the people of Bangladesh will be not enough lucky to see any 3rd party in power.

@Skies that's why I blame common folks the most than political leaders . Now some BD sanghi or semi sanghis may start hammering me , because they are good at it alongside boot licking of master land.

Of course Islam being the dominant religion in BD will face far more criticism compared to Hinduism. That's a fact. Your link gave out a few mentions of Hindu practices of the caste system and sati.

Very common tricks that I have been hearing since ages .
Even if you are not claiming it as a part of trick, still your point is a complete fallacy .
Firstly Islam is predominant here so Islam must be critisized much more , it's a logical fallacy .
Islam is not limited to Muslim majority countries .
So consider the world as a global village and consider all religions as same .
And in bangladesh such things are not critisim , but pure bashing and spreading hate against Islam.
Distortion of Islamic teaching I can't show you all, here . Search the blog that's a good counter of mukto mona .
However in BD bashing Islam became a tool to get asylum .
If someone need to get EU asylum, simply start Islam bashing , creating fake propaganda , showing that they are insecured in Bangladesh.
And anti islamic anti bangladeshi NGOs help then getting political asylum.
Then they earn free money by spreading hate against Islam and muslims.

Rain bow ( gay matter ) belt on kaba Sharif , tea pot on quran Sharif , all times they were bashing the charecter of our holiest man holy prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his holy wives ( who are the mothers of Muslim ummah) , can't be a sign of freedom and free thinking.

Listen , Muhammadur Rasulullah sallalahu alaihi Salam is the person whom we love the most , he is more beloved and honorable to us than our parents .
So bashing his Holiness prophet (pbuh) with filthy lies ,isn't critisizing islam, but it's propaganda against islam and Muslims . If any muslim even critisize Muhammad ( pbuh) , they instantly become kafir , and those filths are not critisizing but they are actually degrade him with their utter lies . Search ,mukto Mona , istishon and dhormokey , you will learn .

And such blogs regularly defamed our holiest man .
This is not critisim , but direct war on Islam , and they have been doing that in a regular basis .
But for the activity of shodalap bloggers and true friends of victim muslim, Mr Pinaki Bhattachary, they ( haters ) are suppressed now , so maybe you don't see their current filthy face .
@Ashes

 

[bluesky]

I think a third party can be better alternative as we saw both BNP and awami regime .
A 3rd party can boost our politics. In Pakistan we saw a strong 3rd party that is tehrik e insaf .
In BD we need such a party IMHO .

Even if we need a new 3rd party, how will it be organized? I do not find any strong personalities in BD who can change the course of BD style of nasty politics to a better one. I hope, you are not suggesting Jamaat to be a new torch bearer.

BD needs progressing-minded leaders who would take the country into at least 20th century, if not 21st century. These people must know what to build and how to build new progressive institutions, based on which the economic life of the population will improve. I think, the present AL-led government is trying its best with not only lies and deception, but also with some jobs to push the country forward. However, this League is not a believer of fair election.

 

[Centaur]

Even if we need a new 3rd party, how will it be organized? I do not find any strong personalities in BD who can change the course of BD style of nasty politics to a better one. I hope, you are not suggesting Jamaat to be a new torch bearer.

I also don't know how is it possible. Surely I am not suggesting jamat Islam .
It can be BNP and awami league without those mafia familiies.
And 3rd party is also possible if whole jatiya party will merge with new allience.
What about the nagorik oikko porishod of mahmudur Rahman manna ? Can they and jatiya party made an alliance?
Not sure yet , but it could be possible although not sure .
What say you about this ? But seriously we need 3rd party or at least stop allied voting .
As because of alliance, BNP and awami league got 200+ seat and for this brute majority , they do whatever they wish .
And also I want the abolition of article 70 of our constitution.
If you can't vote against your party , can it really be called democracy?
Because of this article 70, parliamentary form became worse than presidential form.
@bluesky

 

[bluesky]

I also don't know how is it possible. Surely I am not suggesting jamat Islam .
It can be BNP and awami league without those mafia familiies.
And 3rd party is also possible if whole jatiya party will merge with new allience.
What about the nagorik oikko porishod of mahmudur Rahman manna ? Can they and jatiya party made an alliance?
Not sure yet , but it could be possible although not sure .
What say you about this ? But seriously we need 3rd party or at least stop allied voting .
As because of alliance, BNP and awami league got 200+ seat and for this brute majority , they do whatever they wish .
And also I want the abolition of 70th chapter of our constitution.
If you can't vote against your party , can it really be called democracy?
Because of this 70 th chapter , parliamentary form became worse than presidential form.

There was a time when leaders were created in the stadiums by the orating personalities. There is very little such opportunity now-a-days. However, some Mayors with their good deeds can also come forward. But, after the death of Dhaka Mayor (north or south?) I do not find any such personality. Is Manna of Nagorik Oikko Parishod in the limelight or will he be able to come to the front? Let us watch.

President Ershad is in parole. So, he and his Jatiyo Party will be unable to move forward and merge with other parties before the election is over. Anyway, I find all the evils of today are the outcome of the idiotic policy of Begum Zia. She expelled President B. Chowdhury and thus weakened her party. She lost all the credibility at that time and many others were the result of the sacking of the President.

Article 70 was included with the acceptance of BNP and AL after Ershad was ousted. With this chapter as a weapon, Begum Zia expelled the President of the country. How? In the BNP meeting of Parliament members, Begum Zia asked those present to raise their hands. She herself raised her hands and everybody had to follow her sign. It was all because of Article 70. I have read somewhere that someone has filed a suite with the Supreme Court to abrogate this clause.

 

[Centaur]

I have read somewhere that someone has filed a suite with the Supreme Court to abrogate this clause.

It was rejected by high court already. Still lets see , if we can be freed from this autocratic "article 70" in near future.
Or atleast I want some ( limited) executive power for president in near future.

 

[T-Rex]

Why r u consistently equating secular minded free thinkers with Bal politicians? BAL claims to be secular in their views but deep down their actions r still controlled by hardcore fundamentalists. if they were indeed secular they would not have bowed down to the pressure of Intolerant Islamists in every single time.

U want to have a sculpture of famous folk singer Lalon Shah in-front of the airport? Go take permission from the religious fundamentalists first. U want to build a statue in front of high court? U have to have the blessings of Babungiri for that o happen. This is Bangladesh. It portrays itself as a secular state to the rest of the world but its far from being a secular state.

At least you admit that AL is full of hypocrisy and dishonesty but that comes with suckularism, if you don't believe me check the history of PPP of Pakistan and Congress of india. You'll find the same record.

 

[24 Hours]

The light of Islam cannot be estinguished. Since 1971 the enemies of Islam have fought to finish Islam and Islamic identity in what we know today as Bangladesh. Today you have a country in servitude to India, where the government and the powerful liberal elite are legalising prositution, and the pious are persecuted. The persecution only brings them closer to their lord. In the end the people of Bangladesh will have to decide again if they are Bangla first or Muslim first.

Very common tricks that I have been hearing since ages .
Even if you are not claiming it as a part of trick, still your point is a complete fallacy .
Firstly Islam is predominant here so Islam must be critisized much more , it's a logical fallacy .

You misunderstand, Islam will be criticized more here by atheists because it is the predominant religion here. In America former Christians will criticize their former religion just as much.

And in bangladesh such things are not critisim , but pure bashing and spreading hate against Islam.
Distortion of Islamic teaching I can't show you all, here . Search the blog that's a good counter of mukto mona .
However in BD bashing Islam became a tool to get asylum .
If someone need to get EU asylum, simply start Islam bashing , creating fake propaganda , showing that they are insecured in Bangladesh.
And anti islamic anti bangladeshi NGOs help then getting political asylum.
Then they earn free money by spreading hate against Islam and muslims.

Again, this is a result of being threatened and killed by Islamists. Would Salman's Rushdie's book have any attention if Khomeini didn't issue that fatwa on him? Probably not. If you leave them alone they'll look like fools. If you go out and call for their deaths than you're only making yourself look bad.

Rain bow ( gay matter ) belt on kaba Sharif , tea pot on quran Sharif , all times they were bashing the charecter of our holiest man holy prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and his holy wives ( who are the mothers of Muslim ummah) , can't be a sign of freedom and free thinking.

Listen , Muhammadur Rasulullah sallalahu alaihi Salam is the person whom we love the most , he is more beloved and honorable to us than our parents .
So bashing his Holiness prophet (pbuh) with filthy lies ,isn't critisizing islam, but it's propaganda against islam and Muslims . If any muslim even critisize Muhammad ( pbuh) , they instantly become kafir , and those filths are not critisizing but they are actually degrade him with their utter lies . Search ,mukto Mona , istishon and dhormokey , you will learn .

And such blogs regularly defamed our holiest man .
This is not critisim , but direct war on Islam , and they have been doing that in a regular basis .
But for the activity of shodalap bloggers and true friends of victim muslim, Mr Pinaki Bhattachary, they ( haters ) are suppressed now , so maybe you don't see their current filthy face .
@Ashes

Anyone criticizing Islam already is a kafir, they left Islam long before that. Again, blasphemy is a victim-less crime. Going out to call for their deaths isn't going to make anyone's opinion on Islam any better. You're just adding fuel to the fire.