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1) I am repeating myself but it is to do with immature BVR technology in past wars. In the Bekaa valley, BVR was mature but was not used as the fighters were so close to each other anyway in the crowded Lebanese skies.

2) One BVR missile may have 50% chance of destroying the opposing plane while with 2 the success rate goes up to 80%. You need to make sure that you definitely shoot-down the other plane so no harm in using 2 out of your 6-8 BVR missiles that your plane carries.

3) BVR planes are still fitted with WVR missiles and guns as you need weapons when you are up close to dog-fight. BVR will not always win the fight for you 100% of the time but that does not mean it won't take out 80% of the enemy planes before you even see them.

4) Chances are most of the 12 planes would be shot down by BVR missiles before any of the survivors can get within WVR range.

1) The average BVR killing record so far is only 2.8% of the total firings. Who told you there was no BVR firings in the 1982 Bekaa valley air war? There were a total of 23 BVR missile fires that killed only one plane. The BVR killing is only 4.3% or one killing. Please read that war history before you come with denials.

2) So, one BVR missile may not have more than 2.8% or less chance of killing an enemy plane.

3) There are radar missiles, when fired at about 37 km distance or beyond are called BVR missiles. When fired and killed from within visual distance even by radar missiles it is no more called a BVR killing. It is called Within Visual Range (WVR) killing even if radar missiles were used.

4) No, not all the planes will be killed at BVR distance. The past war records show not even one plane will be killed by one BVR missile depending upon the situation. This is why the BVR killing rate is so low. The warring planes are not static bodies. They move at near Mach-1 speeds.

The radar of the enemy plane immediately gives warning signals to the pilot and he takes the plane away from the path of incoming BVR or WVR missiles. When the enemy plane is far off, say, at 40 km distance, the enemy pilot may even neglect the incoming BVR missile, because it will miss and only by luck it will hit. This is why the rate of killing is 2.8% or less.
 
Not true at all now as the technology is better than before.

F-22 virtually completely relies in bvr missiles to defeat opponents.

Anyway planes usually fire more than one bvr missile to increase chance of hit.

Really? How the fighter jets even do that?
 
Bangladesh Air Force Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum in Ukraine for Overhauling & Upgrading work .

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Date : 13-5-13

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All our MiGs will be upgraded into SMT standard ...



Link : Air Force | SkyPhotos.Ru



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- MHJ ...
 
The Migs are at Ukraine for their overhauling program. This overhaul does not include upgrade to SMT standard.

So, where the upgrading to SMT grade will take place. Is it in Bd or in Ukraine? and what is the time schedule, when the upgrading job will start?
 
i love this new colour.probably some dent paint job done too. old colour was blue basic this is green combat . i love this new camo suit . the mig looks pretty now :D
 
i love this new colour.probably some dent paint job done too. old colour was blue basic this is green combat . i love this new camo suit . the mig looks pretty now :D

I like your idea but I think this planes are without paintjobs on them, you can't see any logos on its body. Besides for best camouflage blue is better suited provided the jets themselves are efficient, the colour green are best for land vehicles.
 
1) The average BVR killing record so far is only 2.8% of the total firings. Who told you there was no BVR firings in the 1982 Bekaa valley air war? There were a total of 23 BVR missile fires that killed only one plane. The BVR killing is only 4.3% or one killing. Please read that war history before you come with denials.

2) So, one BVR missile may not have more than 2.8% or less chance of killing an enemy plane.

3) There are radar missiles, when fired at about 37 km distance or beyond are called BVR missiles. When fired and killed from within visual distance even by radar missiles it is no more called a BVR killing. It is called Within Visual Range (WVR) killing even if radar missiles were used.

4) No, not all the planes will be killed at BVR distance. The past war records show not even one plane will be killed by one BVR missile depending upon the situation. This is why the BVR killing rate is so low. The warring planes are not static bodies. They move at near Mach-1 speeds.

The radar of the enemy plane immediately gives warning signals to the pilot and he takes the plane away from the path of incoming BVR or WVR missiles. When the enemy plane is far off, say, at 40 km distance, the enemy pilot may even neglect the incoming BVR missile, because it will miss and only by luck it will hit. This is why the rate of killing is 2.8% or less.

I understand what you are implying.

Much of the newer BVR missiles are much more superior than the previous versions. As far as air-to-air missiles go, I recommend going through this very informative thread:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/air-warfare/19447-air-air-missiles-command-air.html

If you are implying the R-27 variants currently used on BAF MiG-29's; yeah, they are pretty much garbage.

Making a good BVR missile can be notoriously difficult.
 

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