Bangladesh Air Force

[UKBengali]

having few combat aircraft does not give you the ability to launch attacks on enemy air bases deep inside Myanmar
enough said

Ok if you say so.

 

[wiseone2]

Ok if you say so.

you said just otherwise

 

[Bilal9]

rather you should try to go around Bangladesh.....
try Bogra, Rajshahi, Khulna, Jessore, Faridpur, Narsingdi, Tangail, Mymensingh, Jamalpur, Comilla, Lakshmipur, Maizdi, Brahmanbaria, Habiganj, Gazipur, N-Ganj, Feni, Ishwardi, Saidpur, and whatever other place you would like to add to it.... look around and talk to people.... count the number of new buildings under construction and also their number of floors.... count the bags of cement and amount of rods they're using..... and also count the number of industries under construction as we speak....

my words are nothing.... see for yourself....

Too many false-flaggers in the Bangladesh section these days...trying to put down and discourage our upward trajectory for whatever reason. I'd say ignore these people.

 

[araberuni7]

This is why BAF should avoid shitty MiG-35.

Russia’s Phazotron-NIIR Corp. completed factory trials of its Zhuk-AE active electronically scanned array radar. “The radar is combat-ready,” says Yuri Gouskov, chief designer. A 600-mm.-dia. (24-in.) prototype with 680 transmit/receive (TR) modules has been tested on a MiG-35 since 2008. Fight tests verified its operating range against air and ground targets and in ground-mapping modes. The prototype has a detection range of 60-65 km. (37-40 mi.). The production variant has a detection of range of 130KM. http://aviationweek.com/awin/zhuk-aesa-radar-good-go

The ZHUK AE is the russians AESA and has been fitted to the MiG 35 prototype being offered to india as their new "low" capability fighter to complement their "high" capability SU 30MKI. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/a...-to-blame-for-mig-35-failure-in-mmrca-360364/

The Zhuk Radar is quite small and there would have to be cooling constraints in the smaller nosecone. Given these limitations and the imaturity of the system you could assume it would still be quite inferior to western and Russian radars in all peramiters. auairpower.net

The radar uses multiple four channel transceivers modules generating an output of 5watt per channel, installed on a liquid cooled base plate to dissipate the generated heat. If a specific transceiver is overheated, it will be switched off by the radar computer until it cools down.
http://defense-update.com/features/du-1-07/aesaradar_zhuk_AE.htm

 

[Michael Corleone]

PS - Russian aircraft radars are poor compared to EU/US but the Chinese have made huge strides as per J-11/J-10C and J-20. I would not be very surprised if the AESA inside the J-10C is somewhat similar in performance to Rafale and Typhoon's AESA radar

Has been reported to be better in every way compared to the latest f-16 block 70

 

[Avicenna]

You do know that only the SU-30SME has the range and payload to support the BN far out in the Bay of Bengal?
Again Typhoon is too expensive to buy and operate for an airforce like BD.

Let me try to explain what BAF needs and why:

1. Gripen E- Relatively cheap to buy and operate. Far superior than any MAF fighter apart from the Su-30SME but it should still be better than that with it's superior network centric warfare and Meteor ramjet AAM. It also comes from a source where it can be freely used against Myanmar.

2. SU-30SME - only realistic option to get a heavy fighter that can support BN far out in Bay of Bengal and carry heavy load deep into enemy territory.

3. J-10C - Best Chinese 4th generation fighter and potential to take on anything in the IAF arsenal. Can be freely used against India.

@Avicenna
@araberuni7

Do we know what the objectives and doctrine of the BAF is? Has it changed since the Rohingya crisis?

IMO, the politics of the matter have changed. How did the various players conduct themselves during a period of open antagonism to BD? Who were our friends? Who were or helped our enemies? And what was the situation inside the country? What was the thinking?

These are all questions that need to be thought about and addressed.

It really doesnt matter if BD buys a few Mig-35s or SU-35s or Gripens or J-10s.

What needs to be addressed is a coherent military and political strategy to safeguard the interests of Bangladesh.

Back to the BAF, I would think the objectives would be to:

1) Safeguard the airspace of the nation from intruders.
2) Provide assistance to BD ground forces.
3) Ensure protection of naval forces in BOB.
4) Abilitiy to conduct offensive operations in enemy territory.

The above is an EXTREMELY simplistic list of course.

Now the question is which platforms will be best suited to the jobs.

The other questions are which can BD afford? Which ones have advantageous political ramifications?
And which ones are politically even feasible.

For me I think a political shift needs to happen at this point. Given the supposedly improving economy, as well as the evident increased interest in European radars and short ranged SAMS, I would like for their to be a real examination of the Gripen. I think in terms of capability, its a world class platform. Its small, relatively cheap, and would absolutely upgrade the capabilties of the BAF.

I think its affordable. BD can surely afford 16 examples if it really wanted to. Hell even Botswana is supposedly considering the type to replace its CF-5s.

Couple a squadron of 16 Gripen E and 1-2 Eireye or successor platforms and BD has a legitemate capability.

Of course training and profiecency of the types' capabilities will be key.

Politically, it would align BD with the West. And perhaps BD would be seen more as a realistic market for future weapons sales. It would put BD on the path to more options going forward rather than the usual Russian and Chinese wares.

I think BAF has 1 Fulcrum squadron (1/2 strength) and 3 F-7MB, BG, BGI squadrons?

Lets just look at a replacement on a 1:1 basis for now.

16 Gripens and 48 other fighters ( Russian/Chinese ). That would be my approach.

Honestly, I don't have much faith in the leadership of the BAF or Bangladesh for that matter.

I have seen too many petty and simplistic "politics" amongst the Bengali uncles here in the states while growing up.

I can only imagine that this is the case on a governmental level in the country.

Its a shame.

Back to the BAF, realistically I see only some Mig-35s coming.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Do we know what the objectives and doctrine of the BAF is? Has it changed since the Rohingya crisis?

IMO, the politics of the matter have changed. How did the various players conduct themselves during a period of open antagonism to BD? Who were our friends? Who were or helped our enemies? And what was the situation inside the country? What was the thinking?

These are all questions that need to be thought about and addressed.

It really doesnt matter if BD buys a few Mig-35s or SU-35s or Gripens or J-10s.

What needs to be addressed is a coherent military and political strategy to safeguard the interests of Bangladesh.

Back to the BAF, I would think the objectives would be to:

1) Safeguard the airspace of the nation from intruders.
2) Provide assistance to BD ground forces.
3) Ensure protection of naval forces in BOB.
4) Abilitiy to conduct offensive operations in enemy territory.

The above is an EXTREMELY simplistic list of course.

Now the question is which platforms will be best suited to the jobs.

The other questions are which can BD afford? Which ones have advantageous political ramifications?
And which ones are politically even feasible.

For me I think a political shift needs to happen at this point. Given the supposedly improving economy, as well as the evident increased interest in European radars and short ranged SAMS, I would like for their to be a real examination of the Gripen. I think in terms of capability, its a world class platform. Its small, relatively cheap, and would absolutely upgrade the capabilties of the BAF.

I think its affordable. BD can surely afford 16 examples if it really wanted to. Hell even Botswana is supposedly considering the type to replace its CF-5s.

Couple a squadron of 16 Gripen E and 1-2 Eireye or successor platforms and BD has a legitemate capability.

Of course training and profiecency of the types' capabilities will be key.

Politically, it would alight BD with the West. And perhaps BD would be seen more as a realistic market for future weapons sales. It would put BD on the path to more options going forward rather than the usual Russian and Chinese wares.

I think BAF has 1 Fulcrum squadron (1/2 strength) and 3 F-7MB, BG, BGI squadrons?

Lets just look at a replacement on a 1:1 basis for now.

16 Gripens and 48 other fighters ( Russian/Chinese ). That would be my approach.

Honestly, I don't have much faith in the leadership of the BAF or Bangladesh for that matter.

I have seen too many petty and simplistic "politics" amongst the Bengali uncles here in the states while growing up.

I can only imagine that this is the case on a governmental level in the country.

Its a shame.

Back to the BAF, realistically I see only some Mig-35s coming.

Yes, realistically we can’t afford eurofighter in the long run, not at least if we want full operational readiness with highly trained pilots... and as we have been familiar with eastern systems, have most of the stuff we need that are compatible with eastern stuff, I don’t see us going fully western until much later, like after bd had already have become a developed country... so 5-6th generation

 

[muhammadali233]

16 Gripen Es would totally neutralise the 50 or so Mi-29s, JF-17s and SU-30SME that Myanmar will have soon and so that is what BAF should get before anything else.

A squad of gripens would enough for to take down the usaf.
For real tho,In which lalalala land do you live in?16 Gripens would take down 50+ Latest Su30s and jf 17s?Saabs gripen is known as a cannon fodder inside and outside europe,countries which operate these don't have a a proper foe.If you had said 2 squad of Rafale it would have been digestable but 16?lol you made day boi.

 

[Arthur]

BAF has opened tender for expansion and upgrade of it's mi-17 MRO facilities.

 

[Avicenna]

A squad of gripens would enough for to take down the usaf.
For real tho,In which lalalala land do you live in?16 Gripens would take down 50+ Latest Su30s and jf 17s?Saabs gripen is known as a cannon fodder inside and outside europe,countries which operate these don't have a a proper foe.If you had said 2 squad of Rafale it would have been digestable but 16?lol you made day boi.

Cannon fodder?

What are you smoking?

 

[araberuni7]

A squad of gripens would enough for to take down the usaf.
For real tho,In which lalalala land do you live in?16 Gripens would take down 50+ Latest Su30s and jf 17s?Saabs gripen is known as a cannon fodder inside and outside europe,countries which operate these don't have a a proper foe.If you had said 2 squad of Rafale it would have been digestable but 16?lol you made day boi.

The Chinese learnt to value electronics, avionics, software, radar, information sharing, digitisation and advanced armament. Indians no longer believe in Russian BS. For ****, Peking duck is the best fighter jet because it is cheap and have some scrap metal ToT.

you are an ignorant. For the record, Gripen E has the most advanced electronics, EW, radar, networks, avionics, digitisation and armament comparing with other 4.5 gen fighters. A group of four Gripen E can blind a squadron of Russian or Chinese origin fighter jet in a BVR or WVR combat.

 

[Avicenna]

The Chinese learnt to value electronics, avionics, software, radar, information sharing, digitisation and advanced armament. Indians no longer believe in Russian BS. For ****, Peking duck is the best fighter jet because it is cheap and have some scrap metal ToT.

you are an ignorant. For the record, Gripen E has the most advanced electronics, EW, radar, networks, avionics, digitisation and armament comparing with other 4.5 gen fighters. A group of four Gripen E can blind a squadron of Russian or Chinese origin fighter jet in a BVR or WVR combat.

Give me a Gripen E any day of the week over a MiG, Sukhoi, or Chengdu product.

 

[UKBengali]

Give me a Gripen E any day of the week over a MiG, Sukhoi, or Chengdu product.

Gripen E with Meteor and AWACs would slaughter any MAF fighter, including Su-30SME.

I am not sure about J-10C as that has the latest Chinese stealth coatings and avionics. It is said
that the J-10C has a modified version of the J-20's electronics.

 

[Neptune_]

Wish we didn't have Burma as our neighbour. If that was the case we wouldn't have to spend millions of dollars behind these fancy toys, instead we could've used it behind something productive.

But considering the current circumstances, we badly need modernise our airforce.

 

[TopCat]

Do we know what the objectives and doctrine of the BAF is? Has it changed since the Rohingya crisis?

IMO, the politics of the matter have changed. How did the various players conduct themselves during a period of open antagonism to BD? Who were our friends? Who were or helped our enemies? And what was the situation inside the country? What was the thinking?

These are all questions that need to be thought about and addressed.

It really doesnt matter if BD buys a few Mig-35s or SU-35s or Gripens or J-10s.

What needs to be addressed is a coherent military and political strategy to safeguard the interests of Bangladesh.

Back to the BAF, I would think the objectives would be to:

1) Safeguard the airspace of the nation from intruders.
2) Provide assistance to BD ground forces.
3) Ensure protection of naval forces in BOB.
4) Abilitiy to conduct offensive operations in enemy territory.

The above is an EXTREMELY simplistic list of course.

Now the question is which platforms will be best suited to the jobs.

The other questions are which can BD afford? Which ones have advantageous political ramifications?
And which ones are politically even feasible.

For me I think a political shift needs to happen at this point. Given the supposedly improving economy, as well as the evident increased interest in European radars and short ranged SAMS, I would like for their to be a real examination of the Gripen. I think in terms of capability, its a world class platform. Its small, relatively cheap, and would absolutely upgrade the capabilties of the BAF.

I think its affordable. BD can surely afford 16 examples if it really wanted to. Hell even Botswana is supposedly considering the type to replace its CF-5s.

Couple a squadron of 16 Gripen E and 1-2 Eireye or successor platforms and BD has a legitemate capability.

Of course training and profiecency of the types' capabilities will be key.

Politically, it would align BD with the West. And perhaps BD would be seen more as a realistic market for future weapons sales. It would put BD on the path to more options going forward rather than the usual Russian and Chinese wares.

I think BAF has 1 Fulcrum squadron (1/2 strength) and 3 F-7MB, BG, BGI squadrons?

Lets just look at a replacement on a 1:1 basis for now.

16 Gripens and 48 other fighters ( Russian/Chinese ). That would be my approach.

Honestly, I don't have much faith in the leadership of the BAF or Bangladesh for that matter.

I have seen too many petty and simplistic "politics" amongst the Bengali uncles here in the states while growing up.

I can only imagine that this is the case on a governmental level in the country.

Its a shame.

Back to the BAF, realistically I see only some Mig-35s coming.

End of the day a dictatorial political party give more preference to its own backer than the country's backer. AL will not antagonize China and India as without them most of their leaders will be lynched under BNP/Jamat rule.