Balkanization of India is viable but I don't care

[Jackdaws]

There is a bit of hatred against bhaiyyas (people of UP-Bihar) in Mumbai. They have been derogatorily called as 'pachchis' (number 25) since many decades. They are known for their crime rate. @GHALIB and @halupridol are from that community. But the fact remains that Mumbai has accepted largest number of pachchis migrants in a symbiotic relationship.

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- PRTP GWD

Who is your weed dealer?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

Who is your weed dealer?

This is what I don't like about indians. They don't believe the word of someone who has been to ground zero of any geopolitical issue.

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[PaklovesTurkiye]

The army was called in too. The carnage lasted for 15 days. And of course the whole decade after that. Women took part in the riots actively too. My own chachi included, a double masters student and a highly educated woman.

Bro...of which incident you're talking about? when your relatives took part?

 

[Cliftonite]

Bro...of which incident you're talking about? when your relatives took part?

Not my family. Just my chachi. My family is full of rich privileged industrialists who think Muhajirs just support MQM for shits and giggles. She was a Masters student in Karachi University in the early 80s when MQM and Altaf Hussain started out. She lived in Bufferzone at that time, I'm talking about the Bushra Zaidi time. It's through her I learned the real deal about the whole ethnic issues

Anyways I am avoiding talking about this topic because mods have given me a warning for talking about ethnic stuff.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Not my family. Just my chachi. My family is full of rich privileged industrialists who think Muhajirs just support MQM for shits and giggles. She was a Masters student in Karachi University in the early 80s when MQM and Altaf Hussain started out. She lived in Bufferzone at that time, I'm talking about the Bushra Zaidi time. It's through her I learned the real deal about the whole ethnic issues

Anyways I am avoiding talking about this topic because mods have given me a warning for talking about ethnic stuff.

Will talk you on this some day.

 

[Nilgiri]

A real incident

Hello, I don't read what you post at all, so please do not tag me anymore to it....since I noticed you actually honoured jbgt90 to not tag him (wow!).

 

[letsrock]

There is a bit of hatred against bhaiyyas (people of UP-Bihar) in Mumbai. They have been derogatorily called as 'pachchis' (number 25) since many decades. They are known for their crime rate. @GHALIB and @halupridol are from that community. But the fact remains that Mumbai has accepted largest number of pachchis migrants in a symbiotic relationship.

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- PRTP GWD

There is no bhaiyya hate. There is resentment against indian govt and its hindi imposition on maha, bengal, south, punjab etc. INdian elites deflect that hate to ordinary workers from UP, Bihar who bear the brunt for hateful brahminical imposition upon others.

 

[GHALIB]

There is no bhaiyya hate. There is resentment against indian govt and its hindi imposition on maha, bengal, south, punjab etc. INdian elites deflect that hate to ordinary workers from UP, Bihar who bear the brunt for hateful brahminical imposition upon others.

there is collective bhaiyya hate only in maharashtra , but most of the people hide it .other states are okay .

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Another trait of Southies that Northies hate:

Allowing monkeys to colonize residential areas like cities. Monkeys are all over the place. I heard it happens in Delhi also. But Delhi may be an exception. If Mumbai is any indication, monkey menace is not there in North. Monkeys should be in zoos and forests only. It shouldn't be allowed to populate towns. But Southies have no problem with invasive monkeys. When monkeys pick things from houses, they are only amused.

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Mumbai is an artificial land created by British by adding soil to the sea. It didn't exist by nature. So, don't talk of Mumbai as an example

 

[GHALIB]

Mumbai is an artificial land created by British by adding soil to the sea. It didn't exist by nature. So, don't talk of Mumbai as an example

but crores of people live there .

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

In fact it has one of the most political anti-north movements and politics there. Anyone with basic understanding of india would know that . It brings to question your basic understanding of issues.

I am beginning to think you are trolling here. Focus on major issues - caste, imposition of heritage on others.

There is no bhaiyya hate. There is resentment against indian govt and its hindi imposition on maha, bengal, south, punjab etc. INdian elites deflect that hate to ordinary workers from UP, Bihar who bear the brunt for hateful brahminical imposition upon others.

Again and again you are thinking of imaginary concepts and applying it to Indian situation. It has no connection with ground reality. There is no Brahmin hegemony or imposition of one heritage or language on other people. There is intense dislike or even hatred between ethnicities. It's similar to Yugoslavia. @PakSword can articulate better.

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[jamahir]

They have been derogatorily called as 'pachchis' (number 25) since many decades.

What does that mean ?

brindavan monkeys are very smart in picking spects from your face . they return it if you offer them biscuit packets or fruity drink tetrapack .

Do you have a vid link ?

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

What does that mean ?

I don't know the real etymology but I will tell what I have heard. Perhaps @GHALIB, @dharmi and @halupridol can tell about their jaatwallahs. Even padamchen has lived amongst them.

So the story goes..

Once a bhaiya hawker or shopkeeper while doing business had to do following calculation. 15 plus 15 equals 30. Either he was weak in maths or he got confused. He told the sum is 25. Hence a nickname for his community - pachchis.

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[Kamikaze Pilot]

Note: Those who read why India's balkanization is viable should also read why I don't care.

I am a civilian. I know nothing about security issues - internal or external. But I am the person on ground and I can vouch for the plethora of inter-community dislike or animosity. Why, I have read that even the cadets of that sacred institution - whose objective is to protect the country - the magnificent NDA, practice provincialism. The senior cadets often befriend and spare the juniors the ragging if they hail from their own state.

This is an incomplete list of who hates/dislikes whom and other subversive elements in India:

* Hindus hate Muslims and vice versa

* Negligible hate between Hindus and Christians but mixing of the rituals of the two religions and Hindu-Christian marriage are a taboo

* In some rural regions of Hindi belt the caste violence is so intense that entire families are wiped out including children

* The numbers of tribals - who serve as cannon fodder in naxalite groups - is high. They are a great destabilizing factor.

* Northies hate Southies and vice versa

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike bhaiyyas of UP and Bihar

* A percentage of Maharashtrians dislike/hate Kannadigas

* Kannadigas hate almost everyone else and vice versa

* Tamilians hate almost everyone else

* A percentage of Keralites hate Kannadigas

* Northies find Telugu speaking people (both from Telangana and Andhra Pradesh) particularly disgusting and nauseating and have given them jocular names

* Many states in North East - with the exception of Sikkim, Arunachal Pradesh and nowadays hopefully Assam - hate mainland India

* Mainland Indians don't necessarily hate North East Indians but have a strong dislike and aversion to them and discriminate against them due to their Mongoloid features

* Goans are a special kind of idiots. They brawl with domestic tourists from all over the country but suck up to Whites and allow their nudity.

* Silver lining is nobody hates Sikhs and Sikhs hate nobody. Khalistan is history.

India also has two or three powerful enemies with whom it shares very long borders. But this situation is not an unusual case. In fact everywhere in the world balkanization process is ignited by foreign hand only.

One factor that works against the balkanization of India is the docility of South Indians. For balkanization, probably the entire populace should be of rebellious and perhaps a bit boisterous nature.

Why I don't care about India's fate?

Earlier I would root for singlehanded Indian victory over multiple external and internal enemies like Pakistan, China, USA, naxalites, Bangladesh etc. I would wonder if India is good enough to win and follow this "game". It would take exceptional intellect to prevent a tinderbox like India from inflaming. If one is able to hold India together like the British did, it would be nothing short of a work of a genius.

But I have had a bad experience with a genius. I was disappointed. Ever since, I have a dislike for geniuses. An explanatory paragraph:

I hate geniuses. I hate scientists, mathematicians, chess champions, prodigious engineers, prodigious economists and other technical prodigies. Earlier when I hadn't met one (or thought that I hadn't) I guessed being in the company of a genius would be riveting, thrilling, exciting etc. Like watching 1978 movie ‘Don’, reading the entertaining excerpts of the novel 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich' (by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn), listening to great music etc. I had incorrectly thought that their presence is something worth looking forward to in life. But the reality really seems to be different. Now I know the feel of a company of a genius may be no better than workplace banality. I had presumed meeting a genius would be fun. But meeting with genius turned out to be an ordinary experience. It was not much pleasure.

It's very painful. If the best of humankind are boring, then is there anything to look forward to?

Since then, I am past caring. I stopped bothering about whether the establishment pulls the challenging feat off or whether they fail. The moment I think of the actuality of geniuses I instantly lose interest in the games of international politics.

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[GHALIB]

I don't know the real etymology but I will tell what I have heard. Perhaps @GHALIB, @dharmi and @halupridol can tell about their jaatwallahs. Even padamchen has lived amongst them.

So the story goes..

Once a bhaiya hawker or shopkeeper while doing business had to do following calculation. 15 plus 15 equals 30. Either he was weak in maths or he got confused. He told the sum is 25. Hence a nickname for his community - pachchis.

- PRTP GWD

never heard pachchis