Balance Of Air Power In South Asia

[Hamza913]

Comparing parity of 270 Su-30MKIs with 18 F-16 Block 52 (and 40 odd MLUs) is delusional, and MKI boasts much better Radar and datalink than Block 52.

Rafale will be made in collaboration with Reliance Defence, F-16s will be made with LM along with another Indian conglomerate.

Actually, the older F-16's have been upgraded to block 50 standard, and I wouldn't say the Su-30 is superior to the F-16 block 52 or block 50. It's equal at best. Pakistan has 76 of them, and India has 242 Sukhoi's. India outnumbers Pakistan about 3 to 1 in this department. However, PAF pilots are better trained (I can give plenty of prove too so don't deny), and India cannot send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, only a certain number, making India's size advantage in a war more like 2:1 for Sukhoi's compared to Vipers.

As for the Air Force in general, it's a 2:1 ratio. Keep in mind, India can't send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, so the size advantage would be more like just over 1:1, or 1.5:1 at best. I definitely think the PAF can hold it's own fairly well, but it needs to improve offensive capabilities.

 

[Tridibans]

Actually, the older F-16's have been upgraded to block 50 standard, and I wouldn't say the Su-30 is superior to the F-16 block 52 or block 50. It's equal at best. Pakistan has 76 of them, and India has 242 Sukhoi's. India outnumbers Pakistan about 3 to 1 in this department. However, PAF pilots are better trained (I can give plenty of prove too so don't deny), and India cannot send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, only a certain number, making India's size advantage in a war more like 2:1 for Sukhoi's compared to Vipers.

As for the Air Force in general, it's a 2:1 ratio. Keep in mind, India can't send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, so the size advantage would be more like just over 1:1, or 1.5:1 at best. I definitely think the PAF can hold it's own fairly well, but it needs to improve offensive capabilities.

Why are you making fool of yourself? All your F-16s are not the upgraded Block 52 versions. Our Mig29s are more than a match for the Blk 52 F-16s. Mirage 2000s and MiG29s are more than enough to counter the Pakistani F-16s (most of which are early 1990s airframes anyway unlike the Su30MKIs of 2010s).

Only a handful (about 18) are the upgraded F-16s blk52 in the PAF inventory.

I would say our Navy Mig29Ks are more potent than your F-16 fleet.

 

[Tridibans]

J-20 & J-31 in 10 years??????????......indians and others also said that the J-20 and J-31 would not make their test flights till after 2030. Chinese did it in 2011. We would have access to these weapons systems to protect key Chinese assets in CPEC

Stop living in the future and fanboy dreams. Show me concrete links about PAF orders for J-20/J-31 or else let it go. As it is, todays IAF is 3 times more potent than PAF as far as fighters are concerned. Not even going into AWACs and defence shields/ transport/ helis.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Stop living in the future and fanboy dreams. Show me concrete links about PAF orders for J-20/J-31 or else let it go. As it is, todays IAF is 3 times more potent than PAF as far as fighters are concerned. Not even going into AWACs and defence shields/ transport/ helis.

The Chinese providing Pakistan with a nuclear weapons capability was also a fanboy dream without concrete evidence. Due to CPEC and other programs, the Chinese now have strategic assets all over Pakistan that need protection. An "unofficial" understanding has already been reached with regards to covert transfer of key advanced high tech weapons systems from China to Pakistan.

 

[Tridibans]

The Chinese providing Pakistan with a nuclear weapons capability was also a fanboy dream without concrete evidence. Due to CPEC and other programs, the Chinese now have strategic assets all over Pakistan that need protection. An "unofficial" understanding has already been reached with regards to covert transfer of key advanced high tech weapons systems from China to Pakistan.

There you go. Shifting the goalpost already. I asked about J10/J31 and you are posting about nuclear bombs. Go figure!

 

[$@rJen]

Oh boy this after the delutional dreams of PN submarine fleet matching IN...

 

[Khan_21]

How many JF - 17's do we have operational? They can be used alongside the 76 F-16's that we have .

Indians also had numerical advantage in 65 and 71 and still they got a nice spanking . air wars are not fought on paper .

 

[$@rJen]

Actually, the older F-16's have been upgraded to block 50 standard, and I wouldn't say the Su-30 is superior to the F-16 block 52 or block 50. It's equal at best. Pakistan has 76 of them, and India has 242 Sukhoi's. India outnumbers Pakistan about 3 to 1 in this department. However, PAF pilots are better trained (I can give plenty of prove too so don't deny), and India cannot send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, only a certain number, making India's size advantage in a war more like 2:1 for Sukhoi's compared to Vipers.

As for the Air Force in general, it's a 2:1 ratio. Keep in mind, India can't send all it's fighters to invade Pakistan, so the size advantage would be more like just over 1:1, or 1.5:1 at best. I definitely think the PAF can hold it's own fairly well, but it needs to improve offensive capabilities.

Can i say lol now!!!

First of all blk 52 still behind mki.. second mki is having around 70% available ratio compared to f16s 80% ratio and IAF is planning pushing it to 85% in coming years.

Please note the other beast so called mig29 and not to mention the rafale. Its indeed 3.1 ratio and i dint even mention the upgraded mirages. PAF won't able to hold it for a long time

 

[$@rJen]

You are correct we can't match self exploding junks borrowed from Russia by the way INS Sindurakshak salvaged?

Yes.... these russian junks were what burn downed karachi port for 5 days@@@@@

 

[$@rJen]

70 to 90 operational and yes they could be used along side each other but can't share data links.


Indian wet dreams nothing more

Ya... with this and the sub thread i could see the pakistani wet dreams

 

[Khan_21]

70 to 90 operational and yes they could be used along side each other but can't share data links.


Indian wet dreams nothing more

76 F-16 's + 90 JF - 17 is a potent combination

 

[$@rJen]

When? in dreams?
You know operation Dawarka?

Lol... you kid didn't know what we did to ur port in 71!!!! Thats so cute.. go and learn about it

 

[Khan_21]

Lol... you kid didn't know what we did to ur port in 71!!!! Thats so cute.. go and learn about it

Did you know what we did to Parhankot in 65? . We nearly wiped all your airforce in that war .

 

[Robinhood Pandey]

Self exploding sub standard Russian junk should not be compared with quality products of other nations.

So when are u stop using substandard junk russian engine on mighty JF !7 ?

 

[Windjammer]

How many Amreeki drones your super duper F-16s shot down? Or indian helis in Kargil? (Not talking about SAMs btw way). Even when NATO helis killed 30 Pakistani border guards in Afghan border, F-16s shot them from the skies just like how the Seal team 6 helos were during OBL raid. yeah right!

Listen genius talk about yourself, stop firing over others shoulders else i could show you how many times your air space was breached by both China and Pakistan and you could do jack all.
During Kargil conflict, all the fighting took place on your side of LOC, few times your aircraft breached our air space they never went back and talking of drones, the credit goes to PAF F-16s to achieve first air to air kill of a drone when in June 2002 a PAF F-16 shot down Indian Searcher II of Israeli origin......Next.