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Only Ban on conversion is the only viable solution to this. This will help to keep fundamentalist at bay.

There are extremists in India, Pakistan and also in Bangladesh, but do you ever hear any complaints from the west against the Indian terrorists ? I wonder what the 'warriors' against terror have to say about this.
 
There are extremists in India, Pakistan and also in Bangladesh, but do you ever hear any complaints from the west against the Indian terrorists ? I wonder what the 'warriors' against terror have to say about this.

Stop wondering.

View the section on Orissa in this forum and you will find plenty of press reports from International Press regarding hindu extremist killing minorities.
 
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Three churches attacked in Bangalore
21 Sep 2008, 1022 hrs IST,PTI

NEW DELHI: Three churches have been attacked in Mariyannapalya, Banasawadi and Rajarajeswara Nagar in Bangalore on Sunday.

On Saturday, the state convener of Bajrang Dal, Mahendra Kumar, was arrested by Mangalore Crime Intelligence Bureau while on his way to a nearby town, Ujire, in Dakshina Kannada district for a Dal meeting. ( Watch )

Kumar was held for his statements to the media claiming Bajrang Dal was responsible for the attacks on churches in several districts of Karnataka. He has been charged under various sections of the IPC with causing enmity between communities on grounds of religion. Kumar was produced before the chief judicial magistrate on Saturday and remanded to judicial custody for 15 days.
There was a clamour for Kumar’s arrest after his controversial statement, and the Karnataka government was on the backfoot following the Centre’s tough stance against the desecration of churches in the state. Cadres of Bajrang Dal have attacked Christian places of worship in Dakshina Kannada, Udupi and Chikmagalur districts. IGP (western Range) A M Prasad told TOI that Kumar has been linked to attacks on at least 17 places of worship in three districts.

Asked if police apprehended any trouble in the region with Kumar’s arrest, the IGP disagreed and said, "All police personnel drafted for bandobast in the wake of the recent incidents are still in place," adding, "There's sufficient police presence."

Senior police officials have been given charge of vacant posts in the district, he said. Advocate P P Hegde said that the hearing on Kumar’s bail application was conducted on Saturday and the judgment was reserved for Monday.


Three more churches attacked in Karnataka-Bangalore-Cities-The Times of India
 
Bajrang Dal and Shiv Sena are violent organisations that should be banned. Why is the government silent on these murderous organisations !!:angry:
Bajrang Dal has blood on its hands since Babri 1992 and Shiv Sena has a history of communal riots including cleansing of muslims post babri from Mumbai !
The so called 'secular' Congress will never act against Hindu terror organisations .
 
Archbishop slams Karnataka CM over church attacks
22 Sep 2008, 1713 hrs IST,AGENCIES

NEW DELHI: The Bangalore Archbishop on Monday lashed out at Karnataka Chief Minister B S Yeddyurappa for the recent attacks on churches in the state. ( Watch )

An angry Archbishop told the Karnataka chief minister he was very upset with the attacks.

“I want to tell you, Mr Yeddyurappa we are wounded,” the Archbishop said.

“What’ll you do if one of your temples is destroyed?” he questioned.

“I am saying publicly we are very hurt,” he emphasized.

The emotional Archbishop made these comments after Yeddyurappa had called on him earlier in the day.
On Sunday, for the first time since the attacks by Hindu mobs on churches began last week, two churches were desecrated in Bangalore. There was another attack in Kodagu district, about 300 km from Bangalore.

In Bangalore, the St James church in Mariammanapalya near Hebbal and the Church of the Holy Name of Jesus in Rajarajeshwarinagar were desecrated by miscreants early on Sunday. Police said they detained seven people and suspended a constable for negligence in protecting the shrines.

The fresh attacks bring the BJP-led state government's ability to deal with the anti-Christian violence into question. Chief Minister Yeddyurappa, however, said the attacks were an "organized conspiracy" to disrupt the state's law and order.

The chief minister admitted that there have been lapses in the policing system in dealing with the repeated attacks.

In Kodagu district, members going for prayers to Brethren's Church at Nellihudikeri on Sunday morning found portions of the front glass facade of the church broken. They lodged a complaint with the police. Mystery however, surrounds the incident as two constables were guarding the church.

Following Yeddyurappa's admission of failure of the policing system, the state government has pressed the Karnataka State Reserve Police and Home Guards into service. Mobile patrols are on alert in Bangalore. City police commissioner Shankar Bidari has asked his forces to pull up their socks and ensure security of all churches.

Archbishop slams Karnataka CM over church attacks-India-The Times of India
 
we are ashamed to call ourselfs a secular State...
it's better to call as hindu militant country!!!
 
Page last updated at 08:35 GMT, Monday, 22 September 2008 09:35 UK


More Karnataka churches attacked


The attacks have been blamed on radical Hindu groups
Two more churches have been vandalised in the southern Indian state of Karnataka, police say.

Unidentified men damaged the churches in Bangalore city, police said. Stones were thrown at another place of worship in Kodagu, 240km (149 miles) away.

Police officials said seven people have been arrested in connection with the Bangalore attacks.

In the past week, more than 20 churches have been desecrated by the Hindu hardline group Bajrang Dal.
The group's leader in the state Mahendra Kumar has been arrested.

He has admitted his group carried out attacks on churches in the state, saying Hindus were being illegally converted to Christianity in the area.

Christian leaders have denied the charge and said that the state's governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) was inciting violence instead of calming the tense situation in the state.

Christians say lower-caste Hindus convert willingly to escape the Hindu caste system.


Advisory
The state's Chief Minster, BS Yeddyurappa, under attack from opposition parties as well as Christians for failing to prevent acts of vandalism, has called a high-level security meeting.

The latest attacks have led to calls for the imposition of federal rule in Karnataka.

Last week, the Indian government issued an advisory to the state government to ensure that anti-Christian violence was stopped.

Christian leaders, led by an MP from Bangalore, HT Sangliana, have criticised the government for its failure to rein in radical Hindu groups who have taken to violence in the name of fighting conversions.

The BJP government has denied the charge and said more than 270 people, including Mahendra Kumar, have been arrested.


Recent anti-Christian violence in Karnataka - and in the eastern state of Orissa - have led to calls for a ban on Bajrang Dal and another militant Hindu organisation, the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP, World Hindu Council).

Orissa has seen anti-Christian violence for several weeks now.

At least 20 people - most of them Christians - were killed after a Hindu religious leader there was shot dead.


BBC NEWS | South Asia | More Karnataka churches attacked
 
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Where’s the Indian State?
Barkha Dutt

25 September 2008
Frankly, the Home Minister’s so-called sartorial self-indulgence is so completely beside the point. If ever there was an example of how to trivialise matters of life and death and bring them down to an absurd level of banality, we saw it this week.

Who cares how many times Shivraj Patil changes his clothes or whether his tailors think his style of dressing has altered over the years? Apart from spawning a million sms jokes on wardrobe malfunction, what does any of it have to do with whether we feel safer as a nation? If we have our eye on the needle and thread, surely the question to ask instead is whether a stitch in time has saved nine?

And there, all of us must face the flak: the UPA for showing an absence of leadership and for being much too wishy-washy about groups such as Students’ Islamic Movement of India (Simi); the BJP for leaping on an opportunity to offset the feel-good factor of the nuclear deal and play on the vulnerability of the middle class; and you and me, for ranting and raving at hapless men in khaki about how long the security checks are at airports and cinemas, while meekly surrendering to the same scrutiny on trips to America and England. In its defence, the UPA’s TV-savvy rhetoricians have repeatedly argued that the Prevention of Terrorism Act (Pota) never managed to keep India’s Parliament safe from an audacious terror strike or prevent a plane hijack that facilitated the freedom of Maulana Masood Azhar. And the 90-day detention period (without conviction) for suspected terrorists provided under the current law, they say, is longer than the global norm.

So, why then, is there a near consensus on the fact that the State looks weak, helpless and unable to act? Serious and legitimate questions have been raised about whether the Home Minister is the wrong man for the job. But the paralysis goes well beyond one ministry.

The truth is we have never seen the urgency or energy we expect from the government. Routine condemnations against ‘nefarious anti-national’ designs have come to sound like cliches. Wordy warnings to Pakistan no longer soothe our frayed nerves, especially now that the ‘foreign hand’ is in tango with a domestic, homegrown one. We worry about who is in control when the Congress spokesperson and head of an important reforms committee advocates the need for a new law, but the cabinet rejects the demand.

We wonder why we have to hear what the Prime Minister thinks through ‘sarkari’ hand-outs of his speech at a Governors’ conference. Think of the number of times President Bush has gone on national TV or radio in the aftermath of terror strikes against American citizens.

When a terrorist rips through the everydayness of our lives and takes away our sense of ordinary well-being, we need more than ever to be enveloped by a sense of community and belonging. A dialogue with the State, or those who represent it, becomes imperative, but is almost never forthcoming.

We especially worry when news leaks out that the two political leaders who oppose a ban on Simi, both head parties with a strong Muslim vote base. Terrorists, we know, will win, if an unspoken religious subtext defines and divides our political class. If manipulative religious politics stops the UPA from acting firmly, the same brand of communal politics comes in the way of the BJP being able to project itself as a benign benefactor.

So, when the UPA refuses to ban Simi, we know that minority politics has something to do with it. And when the BJP wants Pota but won’t even consider a ban on the Bajrang Dal, we know that its anti-terror ideology can be perceived as a dangerous euphemism for the politics of hate. Both positions leave us weaker and the terrorists much stronger.

This week of terror has been underlined by violent attacks on Christian minorities and their places of worship in three states, all governed by the BJP or its allies. Bajrang Dal workers on the ground have shown no coyness in coming on camera and taking ‘credit’ for the assaults.

As the state governments of Orissa and Karnataka make the mandatory promises of stern punishment, the Bajrang Dal has threatened that worse could follow if religious conversions continue. For the first time in 20 years, Christian institutions across the country shut down to protest against the targeting of their faith. It’s a dangerous, frightening polarisation that could split India down the middle and make a mockery of our much- vaunted secularism.

In either case — the UPA’s failing fight against terrorism or Orissa and Karnataka’s failing attempt to keep the peace — there is the scary sense of the State losing its writ, or perhaps its will to govern. And while our politicians trade charges with alacrity and flair in breathless TV debates, not one party has delivered on the much-needed promise of police reforms
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The ‘Model Police Act’ that frees police chiefs from political control by making their tenures fixed and giving them the power to decide on postings and transfers of subordinate officers, is yet to be implemented by any state or party. This is despite a Supreme Court order that asks all states to implement the guidelines.

So the next time the bombs go off and we quiz our ‘netas’ on allegations of ‘security lapses’, we should also ask them when security agencies will stop being treated like their political fiefs. It used to be that when the country was at war, domestic squabbling would automatically take a backseat. No longer. These days, it feels like India is at war with herself
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Barkha Dutt is Group Editor, English News, NDTV


Learn from the experience of Pakistan.
 
Anti-Christian attacks flare in India --- Once again, oppression of minorities in 'India'​


Some see a government hand in the fanatical Hindu anger against a minority and its converts.​


By Mian Ridge | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
from the September 24, 2008 edition


New Delhi - With its glinting high-rises and harried executives in designer suits, Bangalore – Silicon Valley of the subcontinent and capital of Karnataka State – is an icon of the "new India."

But the city has shown a less presentable side in recent days, with a rash of attacks by Hindu fanatics on Christians. On Monday, stone-throwing mobs vandalized two churches, bringing the number of church desecrations in Karnataka to more than 20 in a week.
The attacks are sparks of a conflagration of anti-Christian violence burning across India that many fear will spread further in the run-up to national general elections, scheduled for May.

While Hindu nationalists claim that the unrest is caused by missionaries forcing conversions on Hindus, Christians – and most secular observers – say the violence is politically motivated, designed to win votes for the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

The BJP has grown to be the main opposition in the last two decades – a triumph many attribute to its focus on Hindutva, an ideology that holds India is a Hindu nation and religious minorities outsiders.

But wretched poverty and a lack of basic necessities – from education to healthcare – have also played their part in what many describe as the worst anti-Christian violence in India since independence in 1947.

The rioting began in the eastern state of Orissa in August, following the murder of a hard-line Hindu priest. Police accept the claims of responsibility from Naxalite rebels – atheist Maoists – but Hindu groups blame Christians.

Allegedly led by the Bajrang Dal, a militant youth wing of the Hindu nationalist Vishnu Hindu Parishad (VHP) group, mobs went on the rampage in the district of Kandhamal, torching churches and homes and displacing tens of thousands of terrified Christians, many of whom are still in camps. More than 20 died.

By this month, the anti-Christian agitation had spread to the central state of Madhya Pradesh, to Karnataka and Kerala in the south, and to Uttar Pradesh in the north. Some of the worst cases have occurred in Karnataka, which earlier this year voted in its first BJP government.

Mohammed Shafi Qureshi, chairman of the National Commission for Minorities, says he perceives a clear link between BJP ascendancy in Karnataka and the violence. "What we found was something unbelievable," he says of his recent fact-finding trip to the state. "The mobs devastated churches and homes, beat up nuns, and the police were nowhere to be seen…. The state government was responsible for this. If the BJP hadn't come to power, this never would have happened."

The BJP says it has no hand in violence against any religious minorities. And hard-line Hindu nationalists from the Bajrang Dal and the VHP deny that the violence is politically motivated. "There was no violence," says Gauri Prasad Rath, the general secretary of the VHP in Orissa. "If there was any, it was because of the fraudulent conversions Christians are doing. They burned their own churches."

Hindus and Christians in India have a long history of peaceful coexistence, but there have long been claims that Christians here are forcibly converting Hindus and threatening India's identity. In some regions, conversions are taking place in large numbers. Especially in impoverished places like Kandhamal, which is heavily populated by animist tribes – a traditionally nature-worshipping ethnic group that is among India's poorest – the lure of institutional Christianity, which often offers education and healthcare, has proved especially strong.

Christians officially constitute less than 3 percent of India's 1 billion-plus population. Many church leaders themselves say that the proportion is a couple of percentage points under-reported in censuses.

Recently, tensions between poor Christian and Hindu communities nationwide have been exacerbated by Christian converts' calls for the benefits afforded dalits – Hindus at the bottom of the caste system – to be extended to dalit Christian converts. In Kandhamal, Christians have been agitating for the right to continue receiving benefits, including government jobs and university places. The issue has proved a rallying cry for political Hindu groups – as has the issue of forcible conversions. Many of the 12 states currently governed or co-governed by the BJP have introduced "conversion laws," which impose stiff prison sentences and fines on anyone found guilty of forcing a person to switch faiths.
But Ravi Nair, executive director of the South Asia Human Rights Documentation Center, says that convictions are extremely rare. "It seems there's a certain paranoiac exaggeration of conversion activity in India."

Unfortunately, convictions over religious violence are also rare. Last March, a United Nations freedom-of-religion investigator warned that the scarcity of prosecutions and "political exploitation of communal tensions" put India at risk of more violence.
Now, Christian leaders fear this injustice may soon ignite violence within their own communities. "Young people are beginning to ask, is the government protecting us?" says Sam Paul, national secretary of public affairs for the All India Christian Council, an umbrella group of churches. "Or do we need to form into groups to defend ourselves? I really, really hope that doesn't happen."






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Islam for Pluralism
 
I think u r talking about flawless things.the concept of war on terror is imported by our ill leaders.its not our war rather its the amerian war.





Faisal(jhoni.isi@live.com):guns:
 
I think u r talking about flawless things.the concept of war on terror is imported by our ill leaders.its not our war rather its the amerian war.
Faisal(jhoni.isi@live.com):guns:

Whose talking about what?

Are you on drugs???
 

NEW DELHI, Sept 25: While asking the state government to take strict action against all those involved in the communal violence in Karnataka, senior home ministry officials who visited Karnataka claimed that Bajrang Dal elements seem to be behind the attack on the minority community.

There was a “sense of uneasiness” in Karnataka and the Christian community was “visibly upset” over the recent communal violence there, said the special secretary (internal security), Mr ML Kumawat, who along with the joint secretary (human rights) visited the state to review the situation there.

“Alleged Bajrang Dal elements were involved in vandalising churches, prayer halls and schools,” he said, after camping in the violence-hit areas of the state for two days. He said the two-member Central team, including joint secretary (human rights) Mr AK Yadav, found those involved in the desecration of churches were mostly fresh recruits. Mr Kumawat said out of the four posts of deputy SP in Mangalore, three were lying vacant. “All the violence-hit areas were known to be sensitive. The administration could have handled the situation in a more mature manner by deploying seasoned police officers,” he said. The team would submit its report in the next two days.

TN temples

Security was stepped up in five major temples in Tamil Nadu following intelligence inputs of possible terror attacks. Security has been tightened at the Goddess Meenakshi Temple in Madurai, Lord Ramanathaswamy Temple in Rameswaram, Lord Murugan temple in Palani, Kapaleeswarar Temple in Chennai and Sri Ranganathar Temple in Srirangam. nSNS & PTI

Mr Kumawat said they found that out of the four posts of deputy superintendent of police in Mangalore, three were lying vacant. “All the violence-hit areas were known to be sensitive. The administration could have handled the situation in a more mature manner by deploying seasoned police officers,” he said.
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The team would submit its report in the next two days. The team had meetings with the district collectors and superintendents of police of the concerned districts as well as the state chief secretary and DGP. They also called on the state home minister and the Governor.

The state asked for three companies of RAF which was agreed, the Home Ministry said. The state home minister wanted two IR battalions to be raised, which has got favourable consideration, said the Ministry officer.
 

26 Sep 2008, 2210 hrs IST,TNN

COIMBATORE/THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: After Orissa, Karnataka and Kerala, attacks on churches have spread to Tamil Nadu, with suspected Hindu activists damaging a statue of Baby Jesus in Dharmapuram town in Erode district in the southern part of the state.

The attack in Erode came as fresh instances of desecration of church property were reported from neighbouring Kerala. Glass panes of a holy wayside cupola at Harippad in Kerala's Alleppey district were found broken on Friday.

The panes of the cupola were smashed with a stone, police said, adding that the glass on a portrait of apostle St Thomas placed inside it was also found broken. The place of worship belongs to the Karthigappally St Thomas Orthodox Cathedral, which falls under the Malankara Orthodox Church.

As in Orissa and Karnataka, where ire against conversions was directed wantonly against all orders and churches belonging to denominations which had traditionally not been involved in conversion, Hindu activists in Kerala have also expanded the violence to include Catholic churches.

The attacks have continued despite assurances from authorities on protection of churches and Christian property. After the Tamil Nadu attack on Friday, tension gripped Dharmapuram. Police beefed up security at churches, mosques and temples in the district after the attack.

In Tamil Nadu, it was the fourth attack on church property. It came barely a day after a statue of Virgin Mary was damaged in Karavalai in Nagercoil. On Tuesday, unidentified people damaged an idol at St Joseph's Church in Arapalayam in Madurai. Last week, two Hindu Munnani members were arrested for pelting stones at a church in Namakkal.

TN chief minister M Karunanidhi warned that strict action would be taken against the attackers. Friday's incident in Kerala was also the fourth such in the state in two weeks and the second in Alappuzha district. On Wednesday, glass panes of a chapel in Purakkod district were found broken. Those behind the desecration are yet to be booked.

Earlier this week, two churches near the Nedumbassery international airport in Kochi were attacked, again by unidentified miscreants. Investigations in the case have reached nowhere, but there are allegations that police were deliberately going slow in the matter.

The first attack was on September 15, at a convent school which doubled as a prayer hall in Kasargode district. One person has been arrested in connection with the incident, which was suspected to be orchestrated by right-wing Hindu elements who have accused the Church of indulging in conversions.

Kasargode being on the Kerala-Karnataka border, police suspect that those behind the Karnataka attacks were involved here too. The Sangh Parivar and affiliated organizations have a fairly large influence in the district, which has also witnessed Hindu-Muslim skirmishes at regular intervals.

Reacting to the development, Malankara Orthodox Church Metropolitan designate Poulose Mar Milithios said it appeared to be the handiwork of "anti-social elements" who wanted to foment communal trouble. He requested the government to take immediate action to bring the guilty to book and appealed to the faithful to maintain peace.

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Govt seems to be least bothered about protection of "minorities".
 

26 Sep 2008, 2210 hrs IST,TNN

COIMBATORE/THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: After Orissa, Karnataka and Kerala, attacks on churches have spread to Tamil Nadu, with suspected Hindu activists damaging a statue of Baby Jesus in Dharmapuram town in Erode district in the southern part of the state.

The attack in Erode came as fresh instances of desecration of church property were reported from neighbouring Kerala. Glass panes of a holy wayside cupola at Harippad in Kerala's Alleppey district were found broken on Friday.

The panes of the cupola were smashed with a stone, police said, adding that the glass on a portrait of apostle St Thomas placed inside it was also found broken. The place of worship belongs to the Karthigappally St Thomas Orthodox Cathedral, which falls under the Malankara Orthodox Church.

As in Orissa and Karnataka, where ire against conversions was directed wantonly against all orders and churches belonging to denominations which had traditionally not been involved in conversion, Hindu activists in Kerala have also expanded the violence to include Catholic churches.

The attacks have continued despite assurances from authorities on protection of churches and Christian property. After the Tamil Nadu attack on Friday, tension gripped Dharmapuram. Police beefed up security at churches, mosques and temples in the district after the attack.

In Tamil Nadu, it was the fourth attack on church property. It came barely a day after a statue of Virgin Mary was damaged in Karavalai in Nagercoil. On Tuesday, unidentified people damaged an idol at St Joseph's Church in Arapalayam in Madurai. Last week, two Hindu Munnani members were arrested for pelting stones at a church in Namakkal.

TN chief minister M Karunanidhi warned that strict action would be taken against the attackers. Friday's incident in Kerala was also the fourth such in the state in two weeks and the second in Alappuzha district. On Wednesday, glass panes of a chapel in Purakkod district were found broken. Those behind the desecration are yet to be booked.

Earlier this week, two churches near the Nedumbassery international airport in Kochi were attacked, again by unidentified miscreants. Investigations in the case have reached nowhere, but there are allegations that police were deliberately going slow in the matter.

The first attack was on September 15, at a convent school which doubled as a prayer hall in Kasargode district. One person has been arrested in connection with the incident, which was suspected to be orchestrated by right-wing Hindu elements who have accused the Church of indulging in conversions.

Kasargode being on the Kerala-Karnataka border, police suspect that those behind the Karnataka attacks were involved here too. The Sangh Parivar and affiliated organizations have a fairly large influence in the district, which has also witnessed Hindu-Muslim skirmishes at regular intervals.

Reacting to the development, Malankara Orthodox Church Metropolitan designate Poulose Mar Milithios said it appeared to be the handiwork of "anti-social elements" who wanted to foment communal trouble. He requested the government to take immediate action to bring the guilty to book and appealed to the faithful to maintain peace.

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Govt seems to be least bothered about protection of "minorities".



:cry: its not good . I like Tamil Nadu.
It shouldnt be plauged by this.

Tamil Nadu is an area where in the history Christian pastor was given shelterd although he was killed by the chasing Hindus.

The place where he was killed thare us a Church there in Chennai it has a history.
 
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