BAF to induct Su-30SME from Russia

[LKJ86]

Why?

No countries would buy two similar 4.5th-generation mediumweight fighters at the same time.

 

[UKBengali]

No countries would buy two similar 4.5th-generation mediumweight fighters at the same time.

Ok but BD has unique geopolitical environment.

It needs Chinese arms for India and Western arms for Myanmar.

BD does not see itself as allied to either West or China and does not want to become completely dependent on either.

 

[LKJ86]

Ok but BD has unique geopolitical environment.

It needs Chinese arms for India and Western arms for Myanmar.

BD does not see itself as allied to either West or China and does not want to become completely dependent on either.

Budget is always limited to any country. You have to make a choice.

 

[JohnWick]

Ok but BD has unique geopolitical environment.

It needs Chinese arms for India and Western arms for Myanmar.

BD does not see itself as allied to either West or China and does not want to become completely dependent on either.

Hey bud,
I think BD should buy a 5th gen aircraft such as Su-57 or F-35 India.And develop an extensive blastic missiles capability......
In a simple way.
Western fighters are like buying a Corolla Altis and chinese fighter like Suzuki 800
A replacement headlight of corolla Altis costs greater than the whole bonnet of Suzuki 800
Hope you understand.....

 

[UKBengali]

Budget is always limited to any country. You have to make a choice.

Not for BD as it has a relatively large and fast growing economy.

The 16 plane MRCA to be announced first half of this year will almost certainly be Western but expect J-10CE contract to be announced soon after.
J-10CE unit cost and munitions are around half to two-thirds of Western aircraft and so it will not break the budget.
BAF has a plan for 160 4+/5 gen fighters for 2030 and so two plane order is feasible.

 

[LKJ86]

Not for BD as it has a relatively large and fast growing economy.

The 16 plane MRCA to be announced first half of this year will almost certainly by Western but expect J-10CE contract to be announced soon after.
J-10CE unit cost and munitions are around half to two-thirds of Western aircraft and so it will not break the budget.
BAF has a plan for 160 4+/5 gen fighters for 2030 and so two plane order is feasible.

How much does India pay for 36 Rafale？

 

[UKBengali]

How much does India pay for 36 Rafale？

Say BD buys 16 refurbished F-16 Block 50/52 for 30 million dollars each. That is just 480 million US dollars for the lot.
Most of the cost of the F-16s will be training, munitions and infrastructure.
It is also very cheap to operate as it is a single engine fighter.

India brought a really expensive brand French new fighter and made it even more expensive by wanting India specific modifications.

 

[LKJ86]

16 refurbished F-16 Block 50/52 for 30 million dollars each

Would they be upgraded to F-16V? That is really not cheap...

 

[UKBengali]

Would they be upgraded to F-16V? That is really not cheap...

Most likely not as India would be against it and it is not necessary.

BAF only needs a small amount(16) of Western fighters to take care of Myanmar. Refurbished F-16 Block 50/52 with AIM-120C7 is more than enough to take care of MAF.

It needs much larger number of fighters for India and that is where J-10CE comes in.

China should get ready to supply submarines, frigates and fighters to BD this decade in large numbers.

 

[LKJ86]

Most likely not as India would be against it and it is not necessary.

BAF only needs a small amount(16) of Western fighters to take care of Myanmar. Refurbished F-16 Block 50/52 with AIM-120C7 is more than enough to take care of MAF.

If MAF upgades its JF-17M to JF-17 BLK III standard with AESA radar, what would you do?

 

[UKBengali]

If MAF upgades its JF-17M to JF-17 BLK III standard with AESA radar, what would you do?

Ask US to fit AESA radar on F-16s + AIM-120D missile.

They will not refuse in this case and India cannot protest.

 

[LKJ86]

Ask US to fit AESA radar on F-16s + AIM-120D missile.

So, just as what I said before, it is really not cheap...

 

[UKBengali]

So, just as what I said before, it is really not cheap...

Still quite cheap as the package will be 20 million US dollars for the whole upgrade and so 50 million US dollars per plane.

But right now there is no need to worry as MAF only has JF-17 Block 2 and it will be at least 5 years before they get Block 3 as Pakistan itself does not have it yet.

You forget that BD defence budget grows at 7-8% a year in real terms every year and so even after 5 years the budget is 50% larger.

 

[JohnWick]

So, just as what I said before, it is really not cheap...

Better than J-10 fire bird

Still quite cheap as the package will be 20 million US dollars for the whole upgrade and so 50 million US dollars per plane.

But right now there is no need to worry as MAF only has JF-17 Block 2 and it will be at least 5 years before they get Block 3 as Pakistan itself does not have it yet.

You forget that BD defence budget grows at 7-8% a year in real terms every year and so even after 5 years the budget is 50% larger.

US Congress/pentagon will not approve it.

 

[LKJ86]

Still quite cheap as the package will be 20 million US dollars for the whole upgrade and so 50 million US dollars per plane.

Good luck...

But right now there is no need to worry as MAF only has JF-17 Block 2 and it will be at least 5 years before they get Block 3 as Pakistan itself does not have it yet.

Where is your F-16 now?

Better than J-10 fire bird

Your F-16 can try