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BAE testifies to lawmakers on Saudi interest in Typhoons, recent workforce cuts

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LONDON — Talks over an order for a second batch of Typhoons for Saudi Arabia are ongoing, BAE Systems’ head of government relations has told British lawmakers.

“We are still talking to our Saudi customer about the next set of requirements,” Bob Keen told the Defence Select Committee on Tuesday. “There are a raft of issues that surround that, including our continuing commitment to the Vision 2030 agenda and investing in Saudi Arabia, where we already employ 6,000 people. I wouldn’t want to put a date when we would secure more business, but we are working absolutely flat out to make sure that is as soon as possible.”

The executive didn’t expand on issues surrounding Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030, a Saudi government plan to wean the country off its dependence on oil and diversify the economy into high-tech sectors like aerospace; but it may be connected with the amount of work the Saudis expect to be undertaken locally on any new Typhoon order. The original Saudi deal for 72 aircraft included a commitment by BAE to undertake a degree of local assembly, but that plan was eventually shelved.




The Saudis have 72 Typhoons and have been in talks for several years now over a further batch of about 48 jets.

Magic wand

BAE executives also gave evidence to the committee on the company’s decision in October to ax nearly 2,000 people from its U.K. workforce, the bulk of them in its air business.

At one point, Chris Boardman, the managing director of BAE Systems’ military air and information business, was asked by one of the parliamentarians what he would wish for the business if he had a magic wand.

Boardman said it would be for the government to provide some vision of where Britain’s combat air sector would be heading once the Typhoon era comes to a close.

“The key thing is to come to a specific decision on the post-Typhoon era because that is a big issue, and I worry that we are applying our investment in a speculative way rather than specific work for a specific effect,” he said.

The Conservative government in Britain has talked about a long-term defense air strategy for a while now, but it has shied away from launching a review as part of its industrywide manufacturing strategy rolled out Nov. 27.

France and Germany are already jointly exploring a possible sixth-generation manned fighter program, and the U.S. is pursuing a similar program.


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Boardman said it would be for the government to provide some vision of where Britain’s combat air sector would be heading once the Typhoon era comes to a close.

“The key thing is to come to a specific decision on the post-Typhoon era because that is a big issue, and I worry that we are applying our investment in a speculative way rather than specific work for a specific effect,” he said.

This is indeed a HUGE issue. Saudiya needs to be very careful about whether it wants to move forward with more Typhoons, considering the upgrading issues between the tranches and also because the UK is more than likely going to shift its main focus on the F-35B and the competition from Rafale & Gripen and the joint French/German 5th gen that might have a profound effect on what the future of the Typhoon will be.

IMO, Saudiya should just keep the current 72 Typhoons along with the Tornadoes and manage them through their life cycles while the F-15s keep leading the way until they look into either the F-35 or get in on one of the 5th gen projects being developed.
 
This is indeed a HUGE issue. Saudiya needs to be very careful about whether it wants to move forward with more Typhoons, considering the upgrading issues between the tranches and also because the UK is more than likely going to shift its main focus on the F-35B and the competition from Rafale & Gripen and the joint French/German 5th gen that might have a profound effect on what the future of the Typhoon will be.

IMO, Saudiya should just keep the current 72 Typhoons along with the Tornadoes and manage them through their life cycles while the F-15s keep leading the way until they look into either the F-35 or get in on one of the 5th gen projects being developed.
I will be for the new 48 Typhoons only if there is significant ToT.. then it will be worth it.. otherwise it is not as you pointed out..
 
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