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Pakistanis in America fret about their country's image
BY ADEEL RAZA
MCCLATCHY NEWSPAPERS

WASHINGTON — The mounting tensions between the United States and Pakistan are resonating uncomfortably for Pakistanis living in America, who worry about a growing perception that their native country is a failing state and a hotbed of terrorism.

"I am thousands of miles away from home and the war on terror is the last thing I want to read about here. It's everywhere," said Ameer Ali, 42, a taxi driver in Sterling, Va., who's lived in the United States since 1990.

The allegations last week by Adm. Mike Mullen, the outgoing chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that the insurgent Haqqani network operating in Afghanistan was a "veritable arm" of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence spy agency have refocused media attention on the deeply troubled U.S.-Pakistani relationship.

That has meant a steady drumbeat of negative stories about a country that — unlike its rival, India, for example — has a relatively low profile in the United States, many Pakistanis said.

"Since most Americans don't know about Pakistan they form their opinion on the basis of whatever they read or see in media," Ali said.

That view was shared by John R. Schmidt, who served as a diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad from 1998 to 2001. Relatively few Americans have visited Pakistan, and the country remains poorly understood here even though it long has been a U.S. ally, especially after the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan in 1979, Schmidt said.

Mostly poor, with turbulent and often violent politics, Pakistan has failed to sell itself as a tourist destination, he added.

"It's up to the Pakistanis to advertise the many positive sides of the society," Schmidt said. But as the author of a new book called "The Unraveling: Pakistan in the Age of Jihad," he acknowledged that it would be difficult to direct interest away from extremists as long as they're running around Pakistan.

The United States recognized Pakistan on Aug. 15, 1947, the day after its founding. The first Pakistani prime minister, Liaquat Ali Khan, visited the United States in 1950, and Pakistan was seen as a U.S. ally throughout the Cold War.

The United States sends Pakistan's government billions of dollars annually in aid, but many Pakistanis have come to view the United States with suspicion, in part because of the U.S. military campaign of drone strikes against terrorist targets in northwestern Pakistan that have reportedly killed civilians. Many Pakistanis were also angered by the unilateral U.S. raid on Abbottabad, Pakistan, that killed Osama bin Laden in May.

With tensions rising, the Pakistani American Leadership Center, an advocacy group in Washington, issued a statement Wednesday arguing that "the most important takeaway from Mullen's Senate testimony was not the heightened level of accusations against Pakistan but his assessment that 'a failed and strained engagement with Pakistan is better than disengagement.'"

The group critiqued the calls by some in Washington, including Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to designate the Haqqani network as a foreign terrorist organization, arguing that such a move would implicate Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism — "isolating Pakistan from others in the international community while precipitating another crisis between the U.S. and the international Muslim community."

Syed Shah, an information-technology specialist with Sprint in Springfield, Va., said that Pakistan suffers from an image problem because only the negative aspects of the country get featured in the press.

"I have always admired the United States, but I do feel at times that my country of origin, Pakistan, should get space in newspapers for things other than the war on terror and women's rights violations," said Shah, 32. "But I am positive. I believe that some day people will think about Pakistan in a positive light."

Imran Amin, 19, a student at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va., said Pakistan's image suffers by comparison to India, whose population is several times larger and which has sent more people to live in the United States. The general perception about Indians in the U.S. is that they are highly educated and readily integrate into American culture, Amin said, while many Pakistanis prefer to stay within their community.
"They prefer to have their own identity that revolves around their culture and religion," Imran said.


Aziz Jan, 34, of Alexandria, Va., said that every Pakistani in the United States struggled to make sense of the negative portrayal of Pakistan in the mainstream U.S. media.

"Some of us have started to accept it as a new normal, but it really hurts when you compare yourself as a Pakistani to an Indian or other South Asian nations in the region," said Jan, who works at a ground transportation company.

Jan said that Pakistan's contributions to the war on terrorism — including apprehending suspected militant leaders — were overlooked "because the Western media always viewed it as a close ally of the Taliban regime in Afghanistan," dating to Islamabad's support for Islamic extremists there in the 1990s.

"I would like Pakistan's rich ... physical and cultural diversity portrayed in the U.S. media. I would like them to seek and translate the views of the progressive segment of our society," Aziz said.

Asked whether the recent strains had affected his relationships with Americans, he said that for those "who know us personally, their attitudes have not changed."
(McClatchy special correspondent Raza is an editor at Dawn, a leading independent newspaper in Pakistan. He's working in McClatchy's Washington Bureau as part of an exchange program by the International Center for Journalists.)
 
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"I have always admired the United States, but I do feel at times that my country of origin, Pakistan, should get space in newspapers for things other than the war on terror and women's rights violations," said Shah, 32. "But I am positive. I believe that some day people will think about Pakistan in a positive light."
The problem is that the Pakistani Establishment have been barking up the wrong tree. Whilst there is no dearth of funds for projecting the other better side of Pakistan, the Establishment has been concentrating only on spending money on trying to publicize and sell Pakistan's view on the Kashmir issue.

The point is that very few in the United States are interested in such bilateral issues. For example, millions of dollars have been spent by Ghulam Nabi Fai, (who has been charged with being an undeclared agent of ISI in the US), was also a director of a UK-based organisation, promoting Pakistani interest on Kashmir.

Fai, who heads the Washington-based Kashmiri American Council (KAC) was arrested by FBI for allegedly collaborating with Pakistan's spy agency by "clandestinely" funneling hundreds and thousands of dollars to change the view of American lawmakers on Kashmir.

Well, instead of concentrating energy, time and funds on 'project Kashmir' which few in the U.S. are interested in, it would have been far better to have spent the resources on selling the better side of Pakistan to the people of the U.S through media, cultural festivals, seminars and symposiums. Pakistan is itself to blame for the negative publicity it is receiving due to its one track agenda, which is Kashmir!
 
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The problem is that the Pakistani Establishment have been barking up the wrong tree. Whilst there is no dearth of funds for projecting the other better side of Pakistan, the Establishment has been concentrating only on spending money on trying to publicize and sell Pakistan's view on the Kashmir issue.

The point is that very few in the United States are interested in such bilateral issues. For example, millions of dollars have been spent by Ghulam Nabi Fai, (who has been charged with being an undeclared agent of ISI in the US), was also a director of a UK-based organisation, promoting Pakistani interest on Kashmir.

Fai, who heads the Washington-based Kashmiri American Council (KAC) was arrested by FBI for allegedly collaborating with Pakistan's spy agency by "clandestinely" funneling hundreds and thousands of dollars to change the view of American lawmakers on Kashmir.

Well, instead of concentrating energy, time and funds on 'project Kashmir' which few in the U.S. are interested in, it would have been far better to have spent the resources on selling the better side of Pakistan to the people of the U.S through media, cultural festivals, seminars and symposiums. Pakistan is itself to blame for the negative publicity it is receiving due to its one track agenda, which is Kashmir!
Pakistan thinks that by highlighting Kashmir, the HR violations by the IA in the Valley, and keeping their hands perennially in the "Kashmir" cookie jar, they have announced their high-standing moral ground to the world, which however is NOT the whole truth. If Pakistan needs to talk about Kashmir, it needs to talk about the pre-partition Kashmir entity as a whole. Especially read about Shabbir Choudhry's viewpoint on Mirwaiz Farooq here.
At that time young and smart Mirwaiz looked immature and vulnerable. Now he is physically a grown up man who has been carefully groomed as a Kashmiri leader, perhaps to fulfil a certain task. He is a confident man with good presentation skills; however it is difficult to say if he has matured politically. Seminar moderator, Barrister Majid Tramboo opined the audience that Mirwaiz has also achieved his Doctorate; but some Kashmir watchers question if he understands all aspects of Kashmir dispute.

His speech was not among the best of his speeches. Either he does not know jurisprudence of the Kashmir dispute or he was too afraid to speak out his mind; as he did not want to annoy those who sponsored his trip. Some people think it is not prudent to be on the wrong side of those who ruthlessly call shots in the polity of Jammu and Kashmir; as they have power and know how to eliminate all voices of dissent. However, some others think it is absolutely vital that one must uphold principles, and call spade and spade irrespective of reprisals.

When we say the Kashmir dispute we refer to the former Princely State of Jammu and Kashmir that existed on 15th August 1947; and in our considered opinion the entire state is disputed. The fact that in some parts there is more trouble than others does not mean that those areas with less visible trouble and dissent are not disputed.

Both groups of APHC, Mirwaiz Omer Farooq and their supporters and mentors claim that they represent people of Jammu and Kashmir. Actions of Mirwaiz and the APHC groups do not support that claim. Reality is that they do not even represent majority of Muslims of the Valley, where the both groups and their leadership is based.

This fact was once more confirmed by the speech of Miwaiz. His entire speech was about the problems of the Valley and his criticism was against only India. The State of Jammu and Kashmir is forcibly divided between India, Pakistan and China; and consists of the Valley, Jammu, Ladakh (Aksai Chin - under China), Gilgit Baltistan (Shaksgam Valley –under China) and Azad Kashmir.

Mirwaiz Omer Farooq did not speak a single word about other areas of the State, or said anything against other countries which occupy the territory of State of Jammu and Kashmir. It is clear that his Kashmir starts from the Valley and ends in the Valley. He didn’t look concerned about areas of the Valley which are under control of Pakistan, as he did not mention them or their problems. What does this prove?
Now, the selling point of Kashmir in the International arena has lost it's tag, because independence of Kashmir is not in the plebiscite, *** does not want to be in India, Ladakh-Leh and Jammu does not want to be with Pakistan. All in all, even the valley opinions are split between India and Pakistan.

The best way forward is to revisit its Kashmir doctrine, make peace with its neighbour and India-Pakistan declare a collective war on Poverty.
 
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Pakistan thinks that by highlighting Kashmir, the HR violations by the IA in the Valley, and keeping their hands perennially in the "Kashmir" cookie jar, they have announced their high-standing moral ground to the world, which however is NOT the whole truth. If Pakistan needs to talk about Kashmir, it needs to talk about the pre-partition Kashmir entity as a whole. Especially read about Shabbir Choudhry's viewpoint on Mirwaiz Farooq here.
Now, the selling point of Kashmir in the International arena has lost it's tag, because independence of Kashmir is not in the plebiscite, *** does not want to be in India, Ladakh-Leh and Jammu does not want to be with Pakistan. All in all, even the valley opinions are split between India and Pakistan.

The best way forward is to revisit its Kashmir doctrine, make peace with its neighbour and India-Pakistan declare a collective war on Poverty.

Shabbir Choudhry is a British Kashmiri, a Kashmir nationalist belonging to the JKLF, an organization that wants independence from both Pakistan & India.
 
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What is wrong with you? I'm Pakistani American, am I an American agent as well? This is pathetic. You need to get out of this mentality.

And Mods please, move this thread here:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/members-club/118615-foreigners-trip-pakistan-2011-a.html

Maybe you fell in love with that innocent girl in the picture, Baba holding flag is not impressed with her. It is a well-known, CIA is using many types of tactics (i.e hikers, tourists, business officers, contractors, blackwaters, and terrorists). Look the example in Iran, how many Americans turned out to be CIA agents. Same way, in India, American guy came to Kashmir based on tourist visa, it turned out to be his investigating on Kashmir matters, India expelled him. I would suggest this innocent-looking lady should be bring to interrogations and her activities freely.

Mind you, Pakistanis can't trust Americans whatever associated with any country. We simple don't trust every foreginers especially Americans who gave bad medias about Pakistan everyday.

You should not care how many foreigners visiting to Pakistan every year, we OURSELVES Pakistanis must show the positive sides of our beloved country which we didn't do anything. I don't understand why you so upset or sensitive emotionals. I believe you, you are caring about Pakistan. You are free to move to Pakistan anytime. ;)

Man I don't need outsiders telling me how good my country is and that I shouldn't give up on it. If she liked it, good for her. These are things I have always known.

Well-said.
 
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Maybe you fell in love with that innocent girl in the picture, Baba holding flag is not impressed with her. It is a well-known, CIA is using many types of tactics (i.e hikers, tourists, business officers, contractors, blackwaters, and terrorists). Look the example in Iran, how many Americans turned out to be CIA agents. Same way, in India, American guy came to Kashmir based on tourist visa, it turned out to be his investigating on Kashmir matters, India expelled him. I would suggest this innocent-looking lady should be bring to interrogations and her activities freely.

Mind you, Pakistanis can't trust Americans whatever associated with any country. We simple don't trust every foreginers especially Americans who gave bad medias about Pakistan everyday.

You should not care how many foreigners visiting to Pakistan every year, we OURSELVES Pakistanis must show the positive sides of our beloved country which we didn't do anything. I don't understand why you so upset or sensitive emotionals. I believe you, you are caring about Pakistan. You are free to move to Pakistan anytime. ;)



Well-said.

Brother, there are good Americans as well who have good feelings about Pakistan, I meet them all the time here. Let me show you pictures of an American who has worked tirelessly for Pakistan in the last 6 years (Kashmir earthquakes of 2005, & floods of 2010 & 2011), & is a close friend of mine:

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He is not an American agent, & it would offend me if you called him that. Similarly, she is not an American agent either, you can tell who is an agent & who isn't. Agents/spies don't write articles in reputed newspapers like these.

My sister works in Pakistan for an international NGO, she works in disaster management, & did a lot of good work in Sindh, Southern Punjab & the Northern Areas. Her NGO avoids the WOT conflict zones (KPK & FATA). It's a legitimate organization, it is not meant for intelligence gathering. My family is made up of patriots, & we pride ourselves on being Pakistanis. I'll be back in Pakistan within a year InshAllah, & I've been applying for a job there since a few months now.
 
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Go through Pakistani papers and you will find a god number of articles warning that war hysteria is a net negative, that those who are promoting this kind of hysteria re charlatans and misguided -- compare that with US papers - sometimes I think there is no such thing as "common" people in the US and it's because it's so rare to hear their voice or concerns articulated - I wonder what means
 
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Go through Pakistani papers and you will find a god number of articles warning that war hysteria is a net negative, that those who are promoting this kind of hysteria re charlatans and misguided -- compare that with US papers - sometimes I think there is no such thing as "common" people in the US and it's because it's so rare to hear their voice or concerns articulated - I wonder what means

This sounds general, but most of the people in the U.S. simply do not care.
 
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The problem is that the Pakistani Establishment have been barking up the wrong tree. Whilst there is no dearth of funds for projecting the other better side of Pakistan, the Establishment has been concentrating only on spending money on trying to publicize and sell Pakistan's view on the Kashmir issue.

The point is that very few in the United States are interested in such bilateral issues. For example, millions of dollars have been spent by Ghulam Nabi Fai, (who has been charged with being an undeclared agent of ISI in the US), was also a director of a UK-based organisation, promoting Pakistani interest on Kashmir.

Fai, who heads the Washington-based Kashmiri American Council (KAC) was arrested by FBI for allegedly collaborating with Pakistan's spy agency by "clandestinely" funneling hundreds and thousands of dollars to change the view of American lawmakers on Kashmir.

Well, instead of concentrating energy, time and funds on 'project Kashmir' which few in the U.S. are interested in, it would have been far better to have spent the resources on selling the better side of Pakistan to the people of the U.S through media, cultural festivals, seminars and symposiums. Pakistan is itself to blame for the negative publicity it is receiving due to its one track agenda, which is Kashmir!

I disagree wholeheartedly. Fai received around 1.5 million dollars over the course of 15 years. That is nothing. Thats just a little more than any regular paying desk job in the US. There are no millions of dollars being spent by Pak to push the kashmir issue.

As for the bad publicity and rep of Pak is concerned then no amount of money you spend on portraying a positive image through ads and festivals etc is enough when you're directly in the cross-hair of the US. these little meaningless thing like organizing a community affair session, only matter when the major issues like WoT have been settled.
 
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