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Australia has asked three European companies to submit designs to replace its submarine fleet at a cost of up to A$36 billion ($36 billion) in a defence buildup aimed at protecting resource exports and countering an accelerating arms race in Asia.

French naval builder DCNS, part owned by Thales, Germany's Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH and Spanish state shipbuilder Navantia had been asked for information on conventional submarine designs, Australia's Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare said on Tuesday.

"The Future Submarines Project is the biggest and most complex defence project we have ever embarked upon," Clare said.

Australia plans to build a fleet of 12 submarines to enter service around 2025. That comes on top of a A$65 billion military buildup already underway, including new amphibious assault carriers, stealth fighter aircraft, tanks, helicopters and missile destroyers.

The country has also budgeted to buy up to 100 of Lockheed Martin's F-35 fighters, double the size of a purchase being mulled by Japan.

The buildup is in part aimed at countering China's military expansion and reach into southeast Asia and the South China Sea, where Beijing is involved in disputes with several other states over sovereignty.

Australia, a close U.S. ally, also agreed last month to host a de facto U.S. base in the north of the country to provide military reach into Asia and rotate U.S. marines and warships through Australian ports.

But Canberra has been keen to paint its growing military clout as directed at beefing up security for offshore resource developments and mineral exports, as well as increasing its capability to respond to humanitarian disasters regionally.

The new submarines will be larger and more capable than the navy's current fleet of six locally-built Collins submarines, which are among the world's largest conventional boats, but which have been plagued by manufacturing and design problems.

U.S. officials have been pressing Australia to commit to the submarine fleet, and some security and naval analysts had called for the government to consider buying U.S. nuclear-powered attack submarines off the shelf.

($1= 0.9914 Australian dollars)

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Australia seeks European designs on $36 bln submarine fleet | Reuters
 
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WW4 will be a big one .. no doubt about that

With bunker busters , you can't even hide in bunker busters anymore , or escape the radiation from nuclear weapons :disagree:

Looks grim indeed
 
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Why is australia approaching France, Why not US, they have the best quiet Submarines and the second best are Germany's Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH
 
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Why is australia approaching France, Why not US, they have the best quiet Submarines and the second best are Germany's Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH

Australia is looking for Conventional subs, while US only produce nuclear subs!
 
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Isn't $36Billion a little too much for 12 sub, or am I wrong, are we looking at nuclear powered sub or conventional, because 36 billion seem like a lot of money for 12 subs.
 
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Australia is looking for Conventional subs, while US only produce nuclear subs!

Read, Australia has asked three European companies to submit designs to replace its submarine fleet at a cost of up to A$36 billion ($36 billion)

I'm aware US SSN nuclear Subs, Spending $36 billion on conventional submarines? by the logic a single french/German sub could cost as much as $400M 4X12= $4.8B even with all set up and extra along the Submarine Fleet it would costs $5.5B.

By the way this is not a confirm new, every month there is a new plan, There are news, australia is looking to reduce the cost and has also approached US for nuclear attack submarines for much less than it would cost to build 12 conventional replacements for the Collins-class boats. Lets wait for the final contract 36 billion could be for nuclear subs. 12 subs don't costs $36B, the figure could be wrong.
 
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Looks like they are buying lots of Subs
its good for them,
Australian navy is small in number
 
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What happened to WW3? :confused:

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:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Isn't $36Billion a little too much for 12 sub, or am I wrong, are we looking at nuclear powered sub or conventional, because 36 billion seem like a lot of money for 12 subs.

its Australian $ . plus looks like they are going with a sub based navy .
 
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its Australian $ . plus looks like they are going with a sub based navy .

Not really. This is just 1 project the navy is working on.

We have

2 aircraftcarries/heavy lift ships coming in 2015.
4 Air Warfare Destroyers coming in 2014 - 18.
8 new Frigates. Future
20 Offshore Combatant Vessels Future
1 Strategic Sealift Vessel Future
 
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Not really. This is just 1 project the navy is working on.

We have

2 aircraftcarries/heavy lift ships coming in 2015.
4 Air Warfare Destroyers coming in 2014 - 18.
8 new Frigates. Future
20 Offshore Combatant Vessels Future
1 Strategic Sealift Vessel Future

Thats a lot of ships look if you just give back Phar Lap and admit we invented Pavlova we can call it quits no need to invade.

Seriously though didnt Auz just spend a packet on upgrading all your subs?
 
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