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Attack on PNS Mehran Base - PAF Faisal Base

yeah may be in Dar Ul Terror , your location is clearly showing how much you love your country by defaming its name.

Dar-ul-Terror is the correct term as the place in infested with Jihadi's.

I cant run away from the truth, can I?

Being a patriot does not mean that I should be oblivious to realities.
 
I know its difficult for the likes of you to understand things but BLA does not have any support mechanisms in Karachi to be able to carry out such attacks.

Lets blame the Amreeki agents, Hinjews, Zionists and whatever that comes to mind.

Even if our very own Pakistani's were the attackers, they must be called a foreigner.

What a joke?

No support mechanism??? Karachi has a lot of Baloch population. And then their is Liyari and it's gangs who are also baloch by the way. Anyways since you aren't willing to accept the claim of BLA itself who am I to challenge you. Keep it up Mr Mod. :disagree:
 
Malik is saying that they were dressed like characters from star war movie .....
 
Ran away?? Please say you are kidding -- Got in without a problem and out without a problem -- Don't we have a great army and armed forces, how competent they are at blackmailing civilians governments

Only 4 have been killed, 2 supposedly ran away, dont know about the others.

I dont know if I should laugh or if I should cry.
 
At the risk of offending both muse and AgnosticMuslim, I would say that both are right, but not acknowledging the other half.

The civilian governments have been criminally inept, not to mention corrupt, and they won't get many takers for passing the buck on to the army for the country's problems.

Also, the security establishment top brass have to be held accountable for this infiltration of jihadi mindset within their ranks. The army and ISI, of all institutions, should be a model of professionalism and patriotism. They are here to defend Pakistan, not Islam, and if there is even a hint of a doubt about someone's total commitment, they don't belong in these institutions.

As for the army's budget, the solution is not to cut their budget but to increase revenues (tax reform) and fix the economy.

We are talking about a million plus personnel in the Armed forces of Pakistan (regular and reserves combined), not to mention the civilian staff employed in various departments. Extremists don't go around with banners proclaiming they are 'terrorist sympathizers'. To monitor all these personnel for 'extremist tendencies' would require a huge amount of resources. The more obvious ones are probably already being picked out and monitored, but those are not always the ones that are the risk.

Pakistan has put in place a pretty comprehensive personnel monitoring program for its nuclear program, but that covers a much smaller number of people - tens of thousands vs million plus. There are limits to what the Military alone can accomplish.
 
So what do you make of the decision to not do this? Anyway you look at this, to be honest to yourself, you run into a contradiction that really has just one explanation

Well, clearly, the security establishment thinks the jihadi card is still viable after American withdrawal and are saving them for later use. However, as we all acknowledge, a weapon that you cannot control any more and, worse, is used against yourself is no longer a reliable weapon.

Army needs to come up with plan B for Afghanistan and Kashmir cause this one is past its use-by date.
 
I really wish people who consider themselves Muslim first and Pakistani second would show up at a Saudi -- or any foreign Muslim country -- airport without a visa. They will quickly get a reality check about this ummah nonsense.

This mentality is the reason why we are losing this war.

Kuwait recently banned a number of Muslims country from traveling, they have even stopped travel and tourism.

Also the wikileaks release yesterday pointing to Arab funding.

Its all very clear, they just do not want to look at the facts.
 
i heard four terrorist capture and another six blow them up to avoid capture and most serious is some inside element help them carried this though i amd not confirm .
 
Insiders Helped Militants Plot Naval Base Attack: Experts


Terming the Taliban attack on the Mehran naval air base as a "big security lapse", Pakistani defense and political analysts today said that "insiders" were facilitating the militants in their deadly agenda and asked the government and military to wake up to this.

The daring attack by the armed militants, who used rockets, grenades and heavy ammunition, has raised serious doubt over the military's ability to protect its key installations.

"It is a worrying thing this attack and is nothing but a serious security lapse on part of the navy," Air Vice Marshal (Retd) Shahzad Chaudhary, a defence analyst said.

He pointed out that the PNS Mehran was one of Pakistan's most important naval airbases with the latest equipment and aircrafts and for militants to attack it so easily and brazenly showed big loops in the security.

"Just last month two bomb attacks were carried out on Naval buses in the city in which innocent people were killed and the naval installations should have been on high alert," after that, he said.

Another defence analyst, Ikram Saigal noted that after the killing of al-Qaeda leader, Osama bin Laden on May 2 in Abbottabad by US forces, the Taliban had vowed to carry out revenge attacks.

"Despite that, for this incident to take place is a clear failure of security and intelligence and the government needs to really look deep down to prevent such attacks again," he said.

As security forces continued to battle 15-20 Taliban militants who struck to take control of the base housing naval maritime reconnaissance aircraft and naval missiles, Nasim Zehra, a political and current affairs expert, said the attack only highlighted the need for the government and military to accept there were insiders who were facilitating the terrorists in their actions.

"It is not possible for these terrorists to have so much creditable information about the presence of the aircrafts on the base without inside help.


"The fact that these militants have managed to hold off the security forces for the last 13 hours shows they came well drilled and prepared for the operation," Zehra said.

She said that it was time for the nation and armed forces to recognize they were fighting against a well organized enemy which is clearly getting inside help.

"They are rogue elements apparently helping these militants."

Kamran Khan, a well known political analyst said the attack had shaken the confidence of the Pakistan people.

"It is time we stopped blaming others for our problems and seriously looked within our own to root out these terrorists.

"It is not possible that such an attack can be carried out with so much precision without help from insiders.

"We have to accept that Pakistan is now the hotbed of many Jihadi outfits and our intelligence and security agencies need to recognise this fact first," he said.

Some television channels also reported that the militants had taken hostages in their attack but Rehman Malik declined to confirm or deny this.

Malik said the clean-up operation was taking time because the security forces had to ensure the Naval installations were not further harmed and to capture as many attackers alive as possible.

The attack evoked memories of an assault on Pakistan's army headquarters in the city of Rawalpindi in 2009, and is a further embarrassment for the military, widely seen as the only properly functioning institution in Pakistan, in the wake of bin Laden's killing.

The military has come under intense pressure from the United States and its own people for failing to know that bin Laden had been living in a garrison town, north of the capital and near a top military academy, for years, and also for allowing five US helicopters to penetrate Pakistan's airspace and kill him.

As expected, the Prime Minister, Yousuf Raza Gilani condemned the attack and said he had spoken to the heads of the armed forces and told them to take decisive action against the terrorists who were enemies of the country.

"Such a cowardly act of terror could not deter the commitment of the government and people of Pakistan to fight terrorism," Gilani said in statement.

Admiral Noman Bashir, the head of Pakistan Navy said, it was too early to say whether it was a security lapse but the first priority now was to protect the installations and end the operation successfully.

The Taliban have stepped up attacks since bin Laden's death, killing almost 80 people in a suicide bombing on a paramilitary academy and an assault on a US consular vehicle in Peshawar.
FILED ON: MAY 23

news.outlookindia.com | Insiders Helped Militants Plot Naval Base Attack: Experts
 
Dar-ul-Terror is the correct term as the place in infested with Jihadi's.

I cant run away from the truth, can I?

Being a patriot does not mean that I should be oblivious to realities.

these jihaid's were heros of you and your budy america before 1990s, now instead of doing something good for country you are just defaming image of pakistan more.. tell me attacking on few areas in a country makes whole country a place of terror ??? come on man you got a great platform you should bring up the positive side of pakistan instead of spreading disappointment.
 
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