Attack on PAF Base Minhas

[Windjammer]

I was not expecting something like this from a senior member like you , You are comparing a mirage crash which btw are 4 decades old to a full fledged attack on one of the major airforce base in the country with PAF's credibility at stake? tell me why on the earth a so sensitive institution will not try to defend its credibility and success had the case been limited upto just a minor damage? are these two by any means share any resemblance which you tried to create?

Secondly with due respect did i need to tell you that professional life doesnot have excuses like ramadan holidays or eid specially when the countries existence is at stake? We have seen our jawans fighting on eids and ramadans and independence days then why not a spokesman will bother to sit in an air conditioned room for 15 minutes ? Is it asking too much?

Do you expect military to not fought on the war fronts just because there is Ramadan or eid holidays in between? We are not talking about a school kid here rather a professional military force that is answerable to 18 million of people .

I guess you didn't get the psyche of my post, what would you expect the PAF spokesperson to come out and say except what he hasn't already disclosed to the media. When was the last time the PAF spoke person held a press conference, they have always relayed through the media. Just because some of us are suspecting, wishing or hoping that something must have happened, PAF doesn't need to clarify the situation. Please understand the amount of intelligence at stake, perhaps there is a reason to keep quite for the moment. As i said earlier, PAF would issue a statement in next few days. !!

 

[BATMAN]

^^ Why should PAF issue statement to satisfy who`?
Instead PAF shall keep a hush and focus on JFT.
I'm expecting raids like Abbottabad on Pakistan's strategic assets / locations.
I really hope every armyman, have built early warning security perimeter around him.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

 

[pakdefender]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

the base commander should be comended , he led from the front , it goes to show the resolve and may I say downright hatered that there is in military against these subhuman animals that are targetting those assets of Pakistan that are india specific.

 

[Masterio92]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

Aptly said,

A base commander supposed to be charged with threat anticipation to the base before they reach to crisis level.

 

[Devil Soul]

 

[khail007]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

Sir, may be your opinion is fit for modern day tactics and warfare (which most probably a westernized style), but in older times the leader not only planning but themselves successfully involved in battles. For proof, I can honourably mention the name of Hazrat Khalid Bin Waleed (Razi Allah Unho), who got countless battle wounds on his body.

 

[Peregrine]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

If you remember Rawalpindi parade lane incident, then you would know of Maj general Bilal, who had grabbed one of the terrorists and in the process of struggling with terrorists he was killed. So now if we go by your theory, he should have fled the scene like general yousaf and shouldn't have saved lives of so many people there including children. As for Kamra attack, it wasn't a gladiators arena that the base commander should have enjoyed his men being killed by terrorists, while he watched all that from his safe office. Did it occur to you that his actions may have saved lives of many soldiers there? Just because he was senior to all those fighting terrorists so he shouldn't have joined them, WOW very sensitive logic! When you are in a battle field there are no seniors or juniors, just your men and enemy.

 

[danger007]

hmmm lost one life in that attack... i thought no one injured..... R.I.P that brave soul...

 

[danger007]

Edited:no need to respond troll's....

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

Base commander can't change mindset of the people. Some will prefer religious activity than the duty itself.
Surely, Army fought well after attack.
But there was lack of security or some holes in the security. Staff was not enough at the time and commander jumped into the fight.
This was well planned attack and they knew the 27Th Holy night, Sehri activities and other religious offering in this night.
Also we need high security on Eid, chaklala airbase also have high threats. Need tight security specially at Eid prayer time.Some AWACS are in Chaklala airbase now and these are main target for the terrorist.
These unique Terrorist aim is not to kill people , they are concerned with how many destruction/damage to AWACS.

 

[Donatello]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

Can you please compile your posts in a book/note pad, and send one copy to me and one to GHQ?


This advice will fall on deaf ears. I love the Pak Army jawans who take the bullet (literally) for the country, the air men who keep the aircraft air worthy and the sailors who man their ships.

But i have Zero (0) respect for the leaders guiding them.

Like i have seen from my life experience, these Generals/Admirals and Air Marshals are as shameless as they get. The Air Mashal, the Admiral and the General don't give a **** about these multi million dollar equipment because they didn't buy it, their daddy didn't buy it, but the poor tax paying civilians bought them. So why give a shyt.....Right?

Have you ever seen the level of protection accorded to these Leaders at their homes? To their school age kids or when the corps commander is playing golf? But these idiots cannot protect the assets of their motherland.

Shame shame.

Konsi galee doo?

 

[XYON]

Hi,

You young pakistanis need to learn---when a base commander--- ( a general ) has to pick up arms and join the fight---that means it is very close to losing the battle----general officers give directives and orders----picking up weapons for a base commander is a last ditch effort---showing that there were not enough people to take charge of the situation.


ICARUS---you active millitary----your post says that---. The officers you are talking about---they are LT's 2nd LT's captains majors Lt col's----but not base commanders----.

The base commander joined the fight because he knew that he had fcuked up----he had not beefed up the security that was needed---timing of the attack was not calculated----seeing his failures in front of his eyes---he tried to salvage his career by jumping into the fire fight---.

Why does a base commander need to jump into a fight where there are supposedly 100's of soldiers on the base protecting the assets----unless there were hardly any soldiers protecting the base.

The base commander---his whole action stinks of incompetence.

SPOT ON!

Unfortunately most of the young and inexperienced bucks on this forum fail to understand this age-old military logic! They are still tied with the semi-Sultan Rahi NARA BAAZI of Mission Accomplished!! AHQ will be setting a very bad precedent for future commanders if it does not court martial the base commander as a minimum! I am even personally disgusted to see him walking along with the CAS and PAC Chairman with the fcuking MARHAM PATTI around his neck and arm! Punishment has to be served!

 

[Windjammer]

@ Pakistani boys, no need to feed the Bharti trolls...... their tail is on fire since Kamra didn't turn out like Mehran.....bunch of losers.

 

[Peregrine]

SPOT ON!

Unfortunately most of the young and inexperienced bucks on this forum fail to understand this age-old military logic! They are still tied with the semi-Sultan Rahi NARA BAAZI of Mission Accomplished!! AHQ will be setting a very bad precedent for future commanders if it does not court martial the base commander as a minimum! I am even personally disgusted to see him walking along with the CAS and PAC Chairman with the fcuking MARHAM PATTI around his neck and arm! Punishment has to be served!

Please pardon us young and inexperienced bucks for not being able to follow your primitive slave master rituals when a subordinate is in fight for his life.