What's new

Atheism: Next threat to humanity

Aoa

Existence of dark energy has been proven, scientifically. We may not know what it is completely. But we do know something like this does exist. Is there any scientific or mathematical proof of god's existence?

Asking for scientific 'proof' of God umplies a misunderstanding of how science works.

The fact is that the universe exists, and regardless of how you put it, science has much to say about the happenings after the big bang but nothing before.

Science as a concept may have a vast scope however, in reality it is always limited by both technology and the scientist. There are physical limits to what may be known through the scientific method and what cannot.

If something cannot be tested it cannot be considered scientifically provable. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it simply means that it is currently beyond the reach of science.

Mathematics is sort of language of numbers, it may define something irrespective of whether it exists or not. Theoretical science. There were mathematical proofs backing the steady state theory. That didn't turn out to be true regardless of the maths behind it.

...

Consciousness hasn't been scientifically detected and thus proven to exist in any object manner. The scans can show electrical and chemical activity in the brain and we link it with the subjective experience of consciousness. However, science has yet to objectively detect and understand the 'experience of consciousness'.

Does that mean that it does not exist? If we have yet to find our own consciousness, that each individual experiences, how can we say that since science hasn't proven God, God must not exist?

...
 
. .
Religion have defined morally what is right and what is wrong since thousands of year,like one must not kill ,not steal,not lie etc. It has defined the laws and had made it clear that their are rewards in this life and the afterlife too who follow these laws, and punishment for those who don't. Without religion, people in dark and medival ages would have thought " if a honest, tax paying,hard working farmer will end up the same as a murderer, thief or a criminal, then why should I be a honest guy?". As if you say there is no good,it means there is no evil..and if there is no good and evil then there is no hell or heaven or karma who you will be facing for your sins.
Modern athiests can say you don't need religion to say what's wrong and what's right but that is because religion had defined what is right and what is wrong and it has became a default morality which even the athiests follow.
Modern humans are not like people in medical or dark ages and they will turn towards athiesm, and in the process, millions will became narcissistic and will think what is their purpose here..then will come a turning point of humanity, the next evolution of human philosophy, the next breed of humans..the humans Friedrich Nietzsche defined as ubermensch or Superman or overman.
It's misleading to say religion defined morality. It influenced morality for sure. But I don't think there are enough evidence showing religion predates moral values. I personally think ever since humans started forming groups in hunters and gatherers society they developed a code of conduct in the groups. Like what to do when someone in the group is injured or caring for the elders. Religions came later. At least there is not any evidence of religion being there before.
 
.
If that is true then watch out... China has the largest population of Atheists in the world. Followed by the rest of East Asia and then the Scandinavian countries of Northern Europe.
 
.
The 20 most religious countries
  1. Ethiopia - 99% feel religious
  2. Malawi - 99%
  3. Niger - 99%
  4. Sri Lanka - 99%
  5. Yemen - 99%
  6. Burundi - 98%
  7. Djibouti - 98%
  8. Mauritania - 98%
  9. Somalia - 98%
  10. Afghanistan - 97%
  11. Comoros - 97%
  12. Egypt - 97%
  13. Guinea - 97%
  14. Laos - 97%
  15. Myanmar - 97%
  16. Cambodia - 96%
  17. Cameroon - 96%
  18. Jordan - 96%
  19. Senegal - 96%
  20. Chad - 95% (six other countries - Ghana, Mali, Qatar, Republic of the Congo, Rwanda and Zambia - also returned a result of 95%)
The 20 least religious countries
  1. China - 7% feel religious
  2. Japan - 13%
  3. Estonia - 16%
  4. Sweden - 19%
  5. Norway - 21%
  6. Czech Republic - 23%
  7. Hong Kong - 26%
  8. Netherlands - 26%
  9. Israel - 30%
  10. United Kingdom - 30%
  11. New Zealand - 33%
  12. Australia - 34%
  13. Azerbaijan - 34%
  14. Belarus - 34%
  15. Cuba - 34%
  16. Germany - 34%
  17. Vietnam - 34%
  18. Spain - 37%
  19. Switzerland - 38%
  20. Albania - 39% (three other countries - Austria, Hungary and Luxembourg - also returned a result of 39%)
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/maps-and-graphics/most-religious-countries-in-the-world/
 
.
There are many reasons for wars , atheists also wage wars, so people are people ,it doesn't matter they are religious or not, religions don't decide how a person is, so the OP says we have less morals is simply stupid.

So Tell me

Do you define morality as a cultural construct or religious or legal construct?

Because one thing immoral in one continent is dignified morality in the other legally, socially and religiously
 
.
Prove that God exists. That would convince most atheists.
A speech by God in the UN General Assembly would be a good start.
And many ”religious” people will kill in the name of religion so your statement have no basis.
Can you make your pain or fear to address UN? Or you can you make Oxygen to adress UN? Dont tell me these things dont exist.
 
.
It's misleading to say religion defined morality. It influenced morality for sure. But I don't think there are enough evidence showing religion predates moral values. I personally think ever since humans started forming groups in hunters and gatherers society they developed a code of conduct in the groups. Like what to do when someone in the group is injured or caring for the elders. Religions came later. At least there is not any evidence of religion being there before.
I said since thousands of years, not since the beginning of home sapiens.I even mentioned why religion was necessary in dark and medival ages and how modern humans will move towards athiesm.
 
.
Existence of dark energy has been proven, scientifically. We may not know what it is completely. But we do know something like this does exist. Is there any scientific or mathematical proof of god's existence?
How. have we measured or detected any thing. What scientific proof are you talking about do you know what is science. Can you differentiate between empirical proof and theoretical speculation.
 
Last edited:
.
If that is true then watch out... China has the largest population of Atheists in the world. Followed by the rest of East Asia and then the Scandinavian countries of Northern Europe.

Your atheism is your doom. The next territorial aggressor are already set up for destruction by usa . This means you will be the next bogeyman in washington
 
.
So Tell me

Do you define morality as a cultural construct or religious or legal construct?

Because one thing immoral in one continent is dignified morality in the other legally, socially and religiously
That's my point against OP's post, you just can't say that we atheists have less morals.
 
. .
If that is true then watch out... China has the largest population of Atheists in the world. Followed by the rest of East Asia and then the Scandinavian countries of Northern Europe.

And all These above mentioned countries have heavily invested in religious countries.

The construct here at play is

While theism has measures for atheism which are 99 percent peaceful in nature. Does atheism has such a construct of morality?
 
.
You won't have any chance to regret to the fact that you were fooled by religion. Because dead people simply don't have the function of regret.

You dont make any sense satan. I will live eternally while you will die eternally in an extreme painfull and pitiful condition.

Allah is my savior
 
.
Obession with religion is a mental disorder. Its called obesssive compulsive disorder. Only a fool would dedicate their entire life on one thing. Its all about balance and moderation in everything.

I distance myself from people who only talk about religion, I can tell they are mentally unwell.

I am not saying don't practice your faith but do it in moderation and pursue other interests. You notice poor 3rd countries are full of religious people, I call that untreated mental disorder on a national scale.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom