ASWJ confirms talks with PMLN... Fitay Moun !

[Leader]

I don't know what kind of "smart, educated" person would vote for parties like the MQM, PMLN and the PPP...

paisa phenk tamasha dekh... there are many who would be loyal to these parties, kyon kay kuttay ko hadi dalo tou wafadar ban jata hai

 

[Awesome]

meri jaan ko ban kare ga? PPPP ya PMLN??? both trying to get them on their camp !

Hmmmm anyone can do it, take the matter to the court, sab ka arrest warrant nikalwa doh.

This should be the biggest issue in Pakistan, why it is not, I don't know...

 

[haviZsultan]

Are they fighting the tag of terrorist organization or removing a copyright violation that if name is changed we are not going to say anything to them?

The fault is first at the level where there was inaction when they simply changed their name and now all is okay.

Exactly. Its wierd how an organization can just change names and continue operating discreetly. Even the JUD. Though I hold there was only flimsy proof against JUD I still believe a law is a law and a ban is a ban. It would be honorouble if they stopped their activities (charitable-no proof they are involved in terror like LET) and challenged the decision in court.

ASWJ is a different case altogether though. They are proven to be SSP but as you showed a lot of people still don't know this as a fact @Awesome bhai jan. They think its just an Islamic organization and join it. Very few people know what it truly is. Particularly shia rights groups are active against it.

Also ASWJ has been involved in violence. 12 members were recently arrested in Peshawar and that stopped killings in Peshawar of Shia intellectuals and doctors. They were sadly released later in some shadowy deal. This happened fairly recently.

 

[Leader]

Hmmmm anyone can do it, take the matter to the court, sab ka arrest warrant nikalwa doh.

This should be the biggest issue in Pakistan, why it is not, I don't know...

No, this cannot happen... the best thing to do is take them out... > Police + Military(commando) + intelligence Operation...

You dont know the situation in Jhang, there is no mobile service, motorcycles are not allowed there from the last 5 years... one day when ban was lifted, 14 people were killed.

believe me there comes no news from that fuckked up area !!

 

[Emmie]

Hmmmm anyone can do it, take the matter to the court, sab ka arrest warrant nikalwa doh.

This should be the biggest issue in Pakistan, why it is not, I don't know...

Arrest warrant to niklawa dein per warrant nikwanay walay ka kya bane ga? They don't leave anybody alive, we have a pathetic law.

 

[SEAL]

And the fact is TTP rejected IK and preferred NS for the facilitation of the peace process, how ironic...

Jokes apart, IK must have learnt his lesson!

TTP rejected IK because he can't be trusted he is a master of U-turn
On a serious note i am against any peace deals with TTP credit goes to PA these bastards are still alive.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

TTP rejected IK because he can't be trusted he is a master of U-turn
On a serious note i am against any peace deals with TTP credit goes to PA these bastards are still alive.

لشکرِجھنگوی کے بعد ن لیگ کا مولانا ڈیزل سے اتحاد... اب بدلے گا پاکستان​

 

[Leader]

لشکرِجھنگوی کے بعد ن لیگ کا مولانا ڈیزل سے اتحاد... اب بدلے گا پاکستان​

haha.... do haram khor milain gaye tou Pakistan ka huliya bigar daingy, but inshAllah fatah PTI/Pakistan ki hogi

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Bas Mujhay Kisi Tarah PM Banado... Yehi Hay 'Baat Asool Ki'...

 

[Leader]

An unholy alliance



Amir Mir is one of Pakistan’s most respected journalists and an authority on militancy and terrorism. He has written a number of books on the subject including the well-regarded “Talibanisation of Pakistan: From 9/11 to 26/11.” In 2006, he won the APNS award for the best investigative journalist.
Mr Mir’s credentials are worth noting because this past Friday, he authored a front-page article for The News which stated in blunt terms that: 1) the Federal Government wanted the Punjab Government to “launch a massive crackdown on the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ) and the defunct Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP)”; 2) “Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif is unlikely to oblige” the Federal Government by launching such an operation; and 3) the “main reason” why the Punjab Government is refusing to take action against the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is because it has “a seat-to-seat adjustment deal between the PML-N and Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) for the upcoming elections”.
In case the alphabet soup of parties has left you confused, let me explain.
The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is a militant group which has explicitly taken responsibility for the mass killings of Shias in Balochistan and elsewhere. The LeJ has also expressly taken responsibility for last week’s murder of Dr Ali Haider and his 12-year-old son in Lahore.
The SSP is an organisation established in the early 1980s by Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi whose avowed intent was to turn Pakistan into a Sunni state. The SSP was banned in 2002 as a terrorist organisation under the Anti-Terrorism Act, 1997. According to Mr Mir and others, the ASWJ is merely a rebranded version of the SSP. In any event, the ASWJ has also been declared to be a banned organisation.
Let me therefore repeat Mr Mir’s central contention in simpler words: the Government of Punjab is unwilling to act against the self-proclaimed killers of Shias because the PML-N has an electoral alliance with a banned organisation believed to support the killing of Shias.
Is Mr Mir’s assertion correct? Frankly, I don’t know. The PML-N has denied Mr Mir’s report as it had denied an earlier report to the same effect in The Express Tribune. Unlike the Tribune, Mr Mir has issued a response to the PML-N’s denial in which he has reasserted his contention. He has noted that he had filed his report after getting the PML-N’s version from a member of that party’s central executive committee, that the PML-N and the ASWJ had jointly contested a by-election on a Punjab Assembly seat for Jhang in March 2010, and that Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah had openly campaigned for a PML-N candidate in 2010 along with Maulana Ludhianvi (a leader of first the SSP and now the ASWJ). Mr Mir has also noted that the Government of Punjab has admitted paying a monthly stipend to the family of Malik Ishaq — the vice-president of the ASWJ, allegedly a founder of the LeJ, and an accused in at least 43 different cases for the murder of over 70 people. As noted by The Express Tribune and other newspapers, witnesses who appear against Mr Ishaq tend to die suddenly.
What does all of this mean? I do not know for sure. But I am certainly not reassured by what the PML-N hierarchy is saying.
Take, for example, this recent statement by Ahsan Iqbal:
“We strongly condemn terrorist acts against Ahle Tashee …. These incidents have been happening for a while now. Who is behind these acts of terrorism? Why are these elements still at large?”
Seriously? The PML-N is the second largest political party in the country and, as the ruler of Punjab, directly responsible for governing half the population of Pakistan. The Shia population of Pakistan has been getting slaughtered at an increasingly rapid rate. How is it that the Deputy Secretary General of the PML-N can have no idea and no opinion as to the entity responsible for those killings, especially when the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi has repeatedly, proudly and openly claimed responsibility?
Not convinced? Take a look at the statement of condemnation issued by Mian Nawaz Sharif after more than 80 people were massacred in Quetta. That statement is too long to reproduce here but is notable only for the blandness of its language and its refusal to blame any specific group (excluding, of course, the Federal Government).
Khurram Dastgir Khan of Gujranwala, my good and extraordinarily learned friend, represents the PML-N on Twitter. I specifically asked him to comment on Amir Mir’s report but got no reply. Instead, Mr Dastgir has linked to reports of Mian Shahbaz Sharif ordering action against LeJ after prefacing them with the slogan “action, not words”. If Mian Shahbaz Sharif is finally taking action against LeJ, that is a good thing. But it needs to be understood that words too are important.
I have criticised Imran Khan in the past for his desire to enter into negotiations with the Taliban and I stand by that criticism today. At the same time, Imran Khan deserves tremendous credit for being the only major opposition figure to openly denounce the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi. I have yet to see any similar open and public condemnation of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi by the PML-N. And its absence is being increasingly noted by Pakistan’s Shias.
Let me state some simple figures. Shias make up anywhere from 15-25 per cent of Pakistan’s population which in turn means about 30 to 50 million people. Even the lower end of that range represents a very large number of people.
I mention these figures because the PML-N needs to understand that: 1) the Shias are watching; and, 2) irrespective of how many Shias get killed, the remainder will still outnumber those tempted to vote for the PML-N by its *****-footing around with the likes of Maulana Ludhianvi.
I’m sure the Sharif brothers already know that killing Shias is immoral. But they may also wish to consider that buying votes with Shia blood is bad politics.
Published in The Express Tribune, February 26th, 2013.

An unholy alliance – The Express Tribune

 

[UmarJustice]

PTI criticises N for links with banned outfits

Prompted by a statement of Maulana Ludhianvi of Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) that was published in local media on Monday stating that PML-N indeed approached him for seat adjustment, a spokesperson of PTI said that the statement by Maulana completely nullifies repeated denials by various office-bearers of the PML-N. The fact is said the spokesman that N league has had a long association with extremist groups.

“The people of Pakistan still remember the public statement of Chief Minister of Punjab Shahbaz Sharif made soon after successive terror attacks in Lahore, requesting Taliban not to target his government as the PML-N and Taliban had the same ideology, putting in danger lives of other innocent people,” a statement issued by the PTI media cell quoting its spokesperson stated on Monday.

The spokesperson said that the people also remember how Punjab law minister had taken the leaders of a banned outfit, SSP, on his vehicles and he had also attended rallies taken out by the SSP, while it was also an open secret how the media reports had claimed that the family of another SSP leader had been given state stipend who had been ordered by a court of law to be hanged.

The report submitted by the inter-services intelligence (ISI) in the Supreme Court, stating that the explosives used in Kairani Road bomb blast and Alamdar Road blasts had been transported from Punjab and the same were not blocked by the Punjab government. The Spokesman demanded that the provincial government should also be questioned for its connivance with the banned outfit.

PTI criticises N for links with banned outfits | The Nation

 

[Silverblaze]

Why blame the Nincompoops league only?
Aren't the people more responsible who vote for them?

Imagine if Pakistan gets Nawaz as its prime ministers, it would be goodbye to Iran China trade agreements.

But still the people of Punjab would vote for them.

Bye bye Pakistan.