It must be then a touchy subject for governments to do anything about it. Even if the government does take a positive step to stop such activities it will be seen as subjugation of Shia traditions causing rife.
Even in India, there are some practices where people pierce their skin and stuff, it's just one of those things we have to look away from.
Yes, it unfortunately is a fragile situation. It would be dangerous to attempt to restrict or ban it because it would offend the Shias. On the other hand, if the governments were to attempt to regulate it by providing facilities and for example, giving them clean blades and healthcare, it would go against Sunnis' point of view because Islam forbids self-harm and facilitating it would be wrong.. not to mention it would be expensive.
None of the available options is good.
well i don't support this stuff as a shia either but i don't think they deserve such harsh criticism either.considering the fact that it's not an obligation and no one is forced to do it.the one who wants to do it can do it.
Where is the ''harsh criticism''? The criticism is perfectly reasonable. This practice goes against two Islamic rules, one that Muslims should not harm themselves and second that it is a form of innovation in worship. This 'act of worship' was not practiced by any of the Prophet's companions and he never encouraged it.
He never mourned in this way, even though he lost so many of his dearests friends and family - do you think you have more love for the Prophet's family than the Prophet himself?
This is not something that's ''optional''. It was never an option. Some people have made it an option. I am not going to criticize the practice any further because I understand it is a sectarian issue and the Quran commands us to try and maintain unity, but you have to admit that the criticism is not excessive.
There are a lot of self proclaimed muslims that consider asuhra a day of relaxation.like nothing even happened on that day.people be like going out having fun and relaxing are to be criticized harshly rather than these people.
The people going out and ''having fun'' are being disrespectful, sure. But they are not harming themselves, they are not trying to be ''holier than the Prophet'' (astaghfirullah), and they are not damaging Islam's image as a peaceful religion - they deserve criticism for disrespecting those who were martyred, but that does not give this practice a free pass.
it's extreme but it's not forced on.it's your choice
Do you think the children who see their fathers and brothers doing it wouldn't want to emulate them despite the risks involved?
.dont be too critical of them.a lot of people killing other people all day long go stop tha.stop taliban,stop isis,stop al quaeda,stop jun dullah,stop al nusra,stop boko haram.
Do you think we don't criticize the Taliban? Do you think we don't try all that we can to stop the Taliban? Do you think I don't criticize ISIS? Do you think I wouldn't give anything and everything I could if it would stop those monsters? Do you think I wouldn't give my life to stop those Boko Haram criminals who abuse, twist and corrupt our religion?
That still does not make this practice ok. There will always be someone doing something worse. This is not a valid defense. That's like a thief saying ''go and stop the murderers first''.
sure there is no mention of this in the quran.but then again there is no mention of rthe internet in the quran.no mention of defence.pk in the quran.does it mean it's haram?
It's not just no mention. Self-harm is explicitly forbidden in the Quran. And when I use Defence.pk, I don't do it in the name of Islam or Allah. I don't claim it is a religious activity, or a form of worship. You can not compare the two.
how else is jihad any different than killing someone just because you were angry and just cux you were wronged by that person
Astaghfirullah.
Meray Bhai, do you realize what you've just said? You're saying that the Holy concept of Jihad is no different from the horrible crime of "killing someone because you were angry".
Jihad means struggle. The biggest form of Jihad is struggling against your own evil desires and impulses. If you feel like killing someone in anger, Jihad would be to stop yourself from doing that and asking for forgiveness from God for even thinking of doing such a thing.
The secondary form of Jihad is fighting to protect Muslims when they are attacked, or when your land is invaded. This is also called Qital.
And this same concept of Jihad also exists in the Shia interpretation of Islam.
Please do not spread this propaganda against Islam that Jihad means terrorism. It does not.
