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Taliban are a reality. They are not terrorists. They are Afghans fighting for their country.

America calls them terrorists as Taliban do not want to compromise with foreign invaders. Americans have most of Afghans who matter under control. Taliban do matter too. But they are not in control. Taliban have proved they cant be bought with money.

Pakistan does not need to antagonize Taliban who control large swathes of territory. Americans are fools. They will flee Afghanistan one day abruptly like they did in Vietnam.

If Taliban kill Americans and offer resistance to occupation then how its terrorism? Those who ant Pakistan to take action against Taliban not friends of Pakistan. Ashraf Ghani govt and Karzai before him have allowed Afghanistan to be used for terror attacks against Pakistan.

As long as Taliban dont attack us, we dont need to fire a shot in their direction.

werent you or your kind the ones who used to boast no one could ever capture afghanistan, were those in the past sophisticated, taleneted, high tech fighters

He was right if he said it. The mightiest power in the world which can fight such a long war, can only control only a portion of the country. America will never be able to capture Afghanistan and will retreat in defeat. If it antagonizes Pakistan, defeat will be even more painful but its inevitable.
 
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mr. instead of blaming others i will suggest you to stay in touch with islamic books and for what
the PROPHET HAZRAT MUHAMMAD S.A.W warned.

it is not pakistan helping taliban
it is not russia helping taliban
it is not iran helping taliban.
according to my research to some how there is no war ending in afghanistan
That is because the americans and others wont accept their defeat
and they have been defeated by the taliban already

It is Allah Almighty who is helping them
and that is the promise before you were born

but to some how the war will end when imam mehdi a.s appeared
i have my own view my teachers and some others also supported me on this.
16 years of war what they gain?
what taliban lost nothing they are still active.
taking the bubble gum from india and america will help you in chewing and enjoying the sweetness for a while but may be for no longer.

read the following HADITH from ibne maja sahih ahadith. hadith no.3901.
chapter babul futoon.
read line no 9and 10 and define it with different angle you will have the same promise
MUSLIM VICTORY OVER NON MUSLIM.

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Thing is Pakistan gets to decide who hey want to fight and who they dont want to fight.
One cannot fight at too many fronts. USA or Afghanistan has a problem with someone acting in Afghanistan, they should close borders and make Afghanistan secure.
Same as Pakistan is doing with terrorism originating from Afghanistan, securing borders and making their movement in Pakistan difficult.
 
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Afghanistan is a hole, it cant be saved

its falling to the Taliban, rife with corruption and chaos

we tried to help the Afghans and they turned out to be namak harams we cant waste our time to help such people

seal the border, increase patrols and if the Afghans and Americans do the same in their side no one can pass, job done

Well we have to seal the border completely and send back all Afghans back even if they have Pakistan nationality, close air and land routes to Afghanistan let them enjoy their friendship with snakes.
 
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Very good a straightforward answer.

Then why the double talk on all international forums that Pak does not differentiate between the Talis.
Also when you do this in your interest there will be repercussions that you have to live with ( i.e. latest American Strategy for South Asia) which will have severe consequences for Pakistan.
You think we are not prepared for the shit storm that is brewing? All US think tanks are questioning Trump policy and everyone of them is of the view that this hardening isnt going to force Pakistan change anything nor does the US has the kind of influence on Pakistan the way it was before.
Lets see if US walks the talk and that too for a hell hole like Afghanistan.
 
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Well we have to seal the border completely and send back all Afghans back even if they have Pakistan nationality, close air and land routes to Afghanistan let them enjoy their friendship with snakes.
If they have acquired by illegal means then yes, if they have acquired it be legal means...then they should not be forced...but Afghans should not be allowed to acquire Pakistani nationality unless under exceptional circumstances.
 
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Taliban are a reality. They are not terrorists. They are Afghans fighting for their country.

America calls them terrorists as Taliban do not want to compromise with foreign invaders. Americans have most of Afghans who matter under control. Taliban do matter too. But they are not in control. Taliban have proved they cant be bought with money.

Pakistan does not need to antagonize Taliban who control large swathes of territory. Americans are fools. They will flee Afghanistan one day abruptly like they did in Vietnam.

If Taliban kill Americans and offer resistance to occupation then how its terrorism? Those who ant Pakistan to take action against Taliban not friends of Pakistan. Ashraf Ghani govt and Karzai before him have allowed Afghanistan to be used for terror attacks against Pakistan.

As long as Taliban dont attack us, we dont need to fire a shot in their direction.
Well said bro, well said

Deserves a positive point.

Some of Americans have tried to accuse freedom fighters of Taliban of their own made terrorism, i am not however approving what Talibs want/say but if they were fighting invaders, i would even encourage them.
Drug deal, is mostly conducted by CIA's agents and Iran plus Afghanistan's neighbors are the first victims of it. If we left our borders open for those drug dealers, you couldn't find a healthy young in EU countries, but in the meantime we are being accused, never mind.

Afghanistan problem should be solved without American presence.

At the current time, i have heard from our generals that Americans are training ISIS terrorists in Afghanistan and transfer them into Syria, through their regional puppet's boundaries around Syrian territories. ISIS threat from Afghanistan is an immediate threat to whole region including our countries. And some of them are operating inside Afghanistan and USA uses them to accuse the freedom fighters of Taliban. In any case, we can only pray for Afghani people,

Karzai and Ghani are both corrupt pieces of junk, no doubt.
 
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Expel all the Afghans. Seal the border with shoot at sight. Nothing should come in and go out. No Afgan on Pak soil - not even Embassy!!!

Sami-ul-Haq is an extremely controversial cleric, who supports extremism and terrorism, has openly spoken in favor of the TTP (at the time when they were at the peak of their power, were carrying out significant attacks all over the country and controlled certain parts of the North-Western Pakistan), demanded that military operation be stopped and army pulled out of tribal areas. He runs a seminary called "Dar-ul-Uloom Haqqania" in Akora Khattak and wields little power outside his four walls. I believe, that it should tell you enough about whether to take him seriously or no.
But if this is the case how can he have his head on his neck??? These current Muslim states don't know how to rule!!!!! I miss the golden days of the Ottoman Empire!! Even Vezirs or Pashas or Shehzades or Ulema weren't spared!!! Go against the interest of the state and be cohort to the enemies, and lose your head - albeit publicly to make a lesson out of you!!!!
 
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Expel all the Afghans. Seal the border with shoot at sight. Nothing should come in and go out. No Afgan on Pak soil - not even Embassy!!!


But if this is the case how can he have his head on his neck??? These current Muslim states do 't know how to rule!!!!! I miss the germ days of the Ottoman Empire!! Even Vezirs or Pashas or Shehzades weren't spared!!! Go against the interest of the state and be chort to the enemies, and lose your head - albeit publicly to make a lesson out of you!!!!
If only you were PM of Pakistan.
 
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If they have acquired by illegal means then yes, if they have acquired it be legal means...then they should not be forced...but Afghans should not be allowed to acquire Pakistani nationality unless under exceptional circumstances.

All Afghans who have Pakistani nationality should be sent back to Afghanistan and their nationality should be cancelled that's the only way to reduce problems.
 
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All Afghans who have Pakistani nationality should be sent back to Afghanistan and their nationality should be cancelled that's the only way to reduce problems.
Agreed, Afghanistanis need to go back to their country now.
 
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Pakistan tried its best of help them and in the process suffered a lot. But still these ingrates have not mended their way so seal the border hermetically and lock them inside their boundaries and let 'em decide.

lol I like the way you constructed A"NA" ( full marks for creativity) ;)

Quick question, how does it work for you (Being an american and implicitly siding with the Talis at least from you posts) The hypocrisy in this is strong, NO?
You're incapable of answering the questions and thus holding the dialogue a very typical of your country men and that is why your country has been turned into a hell-hole because you laugh and attack people ad hominen instead of replying with logic and facts...what an unfortunate state of mind. Pathetic..
 
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All Afghans who have Pakistani nationality should be sent back to Afghanistan and their nationality should be cancelled that's the only way to reduce problems.
Agreed, Afghanistanis need to go back to their country now.
But before one can dream of this, Pakistan needs to cleanse herself of the Corrupt and Traitors!! Without this...plus ca change....
 
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