Army pushes Taliban back to Afghanistan.

[karan.1970]

This aid has been a curse. Pakistan has ended up loosing more than $80 billion because of this WOT.

That's the BS your politicians feed you to divert blame from their own incompetence....

Without the American aid, Pakistan has no reason to be part of this so called WOT. As far as i am concerned, Pakistan will emerge more prosperous without this aid. This aid is the fuel that the Taliban has used to light up the fire and recruit thousands of young new recruits. Without this aid, wait and watch Afghanistan self destruct in flames as all the resources of Taliban will solely be focused on ISAF. ISAF has been lucky so far that Pakistan has bore majority of the brunt of this WOT.

And you seem to have swallowed it, hook, line and sinker...

 

[notorious_eagle]

That's the BS your politicians feed you to divert blame from their own incompetence....

Not my fault that you cannot accept reality. The loss in terms of damage to infrastructure and loss in FDI due to the deteriorating law and order due to terrorism has been immense. No doubt there are lapses in terms of governance but you would be a moron to believe that this WOT has not had any block back to the economy. The damage assessment has not been conducted by any political parties but various neutral organizations.

And you seem to have swallowed it, hook, line and sinker...

Indeed we have. It does appear that we are the ones fighting it head on while our Allies have fortified themselves in cities refusing to venture out in the country side where majority of the insurgents are hiding.

 

[BATMAN]

Well, how do "we all know"? Another baseless allegation with no substance in fact.

Did i nominated you or any of your dear ones?

 

[F.O.X]

Well why would USA support Pakistan with over 20 billion dollars, and continuing, after 9/11, if the goal is to destroy it? Just turn off the economic life support and watch it self-destruct. Simple and effective.

Again Not answering a Single Question of Mine , and Trying to Divert the Discussion , not going to Work though , Either Answer my Questions or Stop Questioning me.

Answer the 4 questions of mine & i will answer any question you have , Until then it is better if you stay out of it.

 

[BATMAN]

We’ve already emphasized the importance of cross-border coordination between the regional allies. We are fighting the same terrorists, and it is in the best interests of our nations to see these terrorists defeated. The issue of cross-border attacks exists on both sides of the border, and we are not expecting Pakistan alone to shoulder responsibility for protecting the borders. We must work together to address this issue. Our forces, along with the ANSF, are actively targeting the terrorists crossing the border from Afghanistan. We can defeat these terrorists through close cooperation. We reiterate what Richard Hoagland, the charge d ’affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, said recently: “In this dangerous world where terrorists can strike at any moment, we must all work together – Pakistanis and Americans alike – because we have a strong mutual interest in defeating terrorism.”

LTC Taylor,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Too good to be true, does not go along with the ground reality.

 

[karan.1970]

Not my fault that you cannot accept reality. The loss in terms of damage to infrastructure and loss in FDI due to the deteriorating law and order due to terrorism has been immense. No doubt there are lapses in terms of governance but you would be a moron to believe that this WOT has not had any block back to the economy. The damage assessment has not been conducted by any political parties but various neutral organizations.
Indeed we have. It does appear that we are the ones fighting it head on while our Allies have fortified themselves in cities refusing to venture out in the country side where majority of the insurgents are hiding.

Damage ... Yes.. Super Exaggerated.. Certainly.. Is America the only one responsible... Not really.. If someone hands you a bottle of toxic substance, and promises a huge sum of money if you drink it, and then you go ahead and drink the same, you are as responsible for the consequences if not more than the one who handed you the bottle.. Zia made Pakistan drink that bottle in 1980's .. Now why blame America or WOT for the consequences and expect the world to swallow the inflated claims of 80 billion USD loss

 

[Redbull]

Pakistan will survive with or without American Aid, Aid is what the corrupt leaders have accepted, not the millitary or the Civilians, it only gives the terrorist reasons to suspect that Pakistani army is a "hired gun" of the US and to use this propoganda to recruit.

 

[474474]

It is no secret that these terrorists are working on both sides of the border against our efforts to bring peace and stability to the region. Those who fall prey to conspiracy theories and begin making accusations against the U.S. forget that we have lost thousands of soldiers in the WOT. The fact is that we are all victims of terrorism. The U.S., Pakistan, and Afghanistan continue to pay the highest price in fighting terrorism. It makes no sense to play the blame game, when all of our nations have made great sacrifices in the WOT. We simply wish to see all the regional partners on the same page in regard to achieving our shared objectives. The recent cross-border attacks in Pakistan again emphasize the importance of cross-border coordination between the regional allies. We cannot have a stable region without a stable Pakistan and Afghanistan. We have a common goal to restore order in the region, and it only makes sense to work together to achieve our shared objectives.

LTC Taylor,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

You are the ones with money, you are hte ones who had the war with USSR, not us. You can do it!

 

[karan.1970]

Pakistan will survive with or without American Aid, Aid is what the corrupt leaders have accepted, not the millitary or the Civilians, it only gives the terrorist reasons to suspect that Pakistani army is a "hired gun" of the US and to use this propoganda to recruit.

So Musharraf was not Military ???

 

[474474]

That was done on purpose...cause we hate our troops. (you are bright enough to detect sarcasm? wasn't sure...so I spelled it out)

The comments give me hope that all white people arent like you

 

[Redbull]

So Musharraf was not Military ???

Currently no millitary aid mate.

The musharraf "millitary aid" was not used on the millitary either, it was misued...Like I said, Pakistan doesn't need millitary or civilian aid from America, it just needs to leave the region, and Pakistan will run smoothly.

 

[474474]

We’ve already emphasized the importance of cross-border coordination between the regional allies. We are fighting the same terrorists, and it is in the best interests of our nations to see these terrorists defeated. The issue of cross-border attacks exists on both sides of the border, and we are not expecting Pakistan alone to shoulder responsibility for protecting the borders. We must work together to address this issue. Our forces, along with the ANSF, are actively targeting the terrorists crossing the border from Afghanistan. We can defeat these terrorists through close cooperation. We reiterate what Richard Hoagland, the charge d ’affairs at the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad, said recently: “In this dangerous world where terrorists can strike at any moment, we must all work together – Pakistanis and Americans alike – because we have a strong mutual interest in defeating terrorism.”

LTC Taylor,
DET, United States Central Command
U.S. Central Command

Dear sir, why does all your aid go to corrupt politicians? Why do you like watching poor innocent Iranian and NKorean CIVILIANS starve to death? If you're worried about Pakistani nuclear assets so much why don't you share technology for securing it with us instead of just criticizing? Also, why no measures are being taken INSIDE the USA to curb Islamo/Pakistanophobia?

 

[VCheng]

This aid has been a curse. Pakistan has ended up loosing more than $80 billion because of this WOT. Without the American aid, Pakistan has no reason to be part of this so called WOT. As far as i am concerned, Pakistan will emerge more prosperous without this aid. This aid is the fuel that the Taliban has used to light up the fire and recruit thousands of young new recruits. Without this aid, wait and watch Afghanistan self destruct in flames as all the resources of Taliban will solely be focused on ISAF. ISAF has been lucky so far that Pakistan has bore majority of the brunt of this WOT.

What you describe as a "curse" has been a lifeline for both the Pakistani military and the economy.

That 80 billion estimated loss was recognized to be an exaggeration, was it not?

Afghanistan is assured $4b in military and $4b in non-military aid for several years separately from Pakistan's aid package, and it is a myth that Pakistan's economy can survive without it.

Finally, "luck favors those who do not include it in their plans".

 

[karan.1970]

Currently no millitary aid mate.

The musharraf "millitary aid" was not used on the millitary either, it was misued...Like I said, Pakistan doesn't need millitary or civilian aid from America, it just needs to leave the region, and Pakistan will run smoothly.

And why would America or any other country take Pakistani advice on their relations in the region. Pakistan should worry about Pakistan and let the region sort itself out.. May be that's the problem.. Pakistan is more bothered about the neighboring countries than itself..

 

[VCheng]

Again Not answering a Single Question of Mine , and Trying to Divert the Discussion , not going to Work though , Either Answer my Questions or Stop Questioning me.

Answer the 4 questions of mine & i will answer any question you have , Until then it is better if you stay out of it.

Yes, I am waiting for you to justify these two gems posted by you before those 4 questions. That is the diversion. Let's talk about them first, then we can move on to dismantling your other ranting delusions:

......................

So where is the proof that:

1) "Uncle Sam is the One Who sends Them to Pakistan & Provides then Shelter & Food"

or

2) "TTPs sole purpose of creation was to destabilize Pakistan , Hell they are even paid in $$"

Your questions, which came later, of why the border is not closed by USA is like the guy whose own house is burning down, but he thinks his neighbor should put out the fire because he suspects his neighbor might have set it.

Fair enough?