Army plan induction of BrahMos with 'surgical strike' option

[oceanx]

So my dear friend why are you not waging a Jihad against China?

Which is killing thousands of Muslims.

Oh...I get it your hypocrisy and double standard.

Thousands, uh? Why not millions? Didn't the exiles like to brandish the number 1.2 million? I don't mean to make light of suffering of Tibetans and I am generally sympathetic to the exiles.

OTOH however, perhaps we do know who were rioting and killing the Hui Muslims, burning Han clothing shops and Hui butcher stands, as well as attacking passersby indiscriminantly last year in Lhasa?

Wait, you mean that wasn't a Jihad?

I am disappointed.

 

[Free Tibet]

Thousands, uh? Why not millions? Didn't the exiles like to brandish the number 1.2 million? I don't mean to make light of suffering of Tibetans and I am generally sympathetic to the exiles.

OTOH however, perhaps we do know who were rioting and killing the Hui Muslims, burning Han clothing shops and Hui butcher stands, as well as attacking passersby indiscriminantly last year in Lhasa?

Wait, you mean that wasn't a Jihad?

I am disappointed.

You mean Chinese secrete service, police, communist party workers and Han chauvinist as usual. So sad.

But you know they are doing this for last 60 years. And you are right they have killed millions in different names like cultural revolution, giant leap forward etc.

Brave Muslim women protesting against Chinese occupation.

 

[Adios Amigo]

As far as this development is concerned than attacking Terror Camps is one of the many roles that such missiles can perform.

No need for any of us doubting its capability, we will take it for its face value.

As far as Jihad and rest of the story is concerned than we don't need to do anything else...It is already targetted against us and we are well capable of keeping these pigs in check .....

Surely you can keep them in check, by not letting them cross your borders. And i would fully support your stance to this extent. Blow off their heads when so ever they try to cross it. Other then that your capability gets lock down, here you are dealing with damn sovereign country, a nuclear power, a ballistic missile and cruse missile power, with capability if not good then yours then at least, at par with yours.

The day, rather the second your missile or fighter jets cross your boundary, you will be breaching our sovereignty, and to us it doesn't matter if its targeting a jahidi camp, or our military and strategic Hubs or our civilian population centers, for us its all the same and will be considered as attack on the whole country, therefore it will be responded back in a much beefy punch.

To take out the terrorists or what so ever u call them, in Pakistan is the sole responsibility of Pakistan. We are doing more then anyone else and we suffering more then anyone else. but i am not here to gain sympathies from you guys because of our sufferings or your appreciation for our actions against the terrorists. If you still think we are not doing enough, then go in United Nations and turn around all the diplomatic channels against us, Declare us a terrorist nation with UN mandate. If you cannot do even that, then wage a clear war on us, cause for us, there is no word of Damn "Surgical Strikes" in our dictionaries. And as Asim said in one place, If u attack, you will have to carry the war on our terms. so don't be dubious about it, no more.


Rest the whole thing is a peace of crap, you guys know it as good as we know.







adios

 

[Contrarian]

The day, rather the second your missile or fighter jets cross your boundary, you will be breaching our sovereignty, and to us it doesn't matter if its targeting a jahidi camp, or our military and strategic Hubs or our civilian population centers, for us its all the same and will be considered as attack on the whole country, therefore it will be responded back in a much beefy punch.

To take out the terrorists or what so ever u call them, in Pakistan is the sole responsibility of Pakistan.

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[Adios Amigo]

Take your bravado elsewhere. Atleast where it matters-like telling the same to the US which bombs your territory with surprising regularity.

Hell you are not US, so don't measure up yourself with them, and for your information sake those drone attacks are carried out from Baluchistan Pakistan with the consent of government and even intelligence is shared with them, and most of the time the attack is carried out by the intelligence info provided by our agencies , even the US has acknowledged that. And all the protest you hear in media by govt is just a drama. and every one knows about it.

so bash us with something real and related to yours situation.


come up with something worth posting.





adios

 

[Contrarian]

I retract my statement, its your country. If you are satisfied, then who the heck am i to comment or bother.

 

[footmarks]

I think India is miscalculating result of any such action. Musharaf had forcefully turned the fire of Jihad down in Pakistan and Jihadi sentiments against India is down ever since. If India did this mistake of attacking Pakistani cities, even if on presumed Jihadi Markazes, Paksitan will have every reason to support them and do anything they want against India. Its a mistake that Paksitan would receive surgical strike and world would be able to stop Pakistan from retaliation and when we will attack, it will be the WAR.

Holy Prophet Muhammad SAWW said, jihad will stay alive till the day of Judgement. So be it Americans dream of that of India, the resistance of Jihad against injustice will be there, even if you die fighting it. The only path towrads prosperity is let go Muslim Territory and be a nice neighbor like everybody around. Jihad is in the blood of Muslims found everywhere around the world and you cannot take it down by force. Just look at America who has to make reconciliation with Taliban and have broken its back fighting them, although it wasn't America alone but alliance of powers of the world. Does India think it is stronger than America and will be able to settle Jihad with those surgical strikes.

Don't go hunting what you cannot kill.

Man, what should I say
Anyways, I will not comment on the religious part of it as I respect every religion (though do not believe in any of them fully as all are equally good and none is perfect).

But from the two sentences in bold, it is obvious that since Muslims reside in every country of this world and Jihad is in blood of everyone of them, and though the meaning of word jihad implies something holy but its present day manifestation is ruthless terrorism, you have left us with no other option than to start searching for some other planet to live peacefully.

 

[deckingraj]

No need for any of us doubting its capability, we will take it for its face value.

Very well said....

Surely you can keep them in check, by not letting them cross your borders. And i would fully support your stance to this extent. Blow off their heads when so ever they try to cross it. Other then that your capability gets lock down, here you are dealing with damn sovereign country, a nuclear power, a ballistic missile and cruse missile power, with capability if not good then yours then at least, at par with yours.

Again no disagreement at all....

The day, rather the second your missile or fighter jets cross your boundary, you will be breaching our sovereignty, and to us it doesn't matter if its targeting a jahidi camp, or our military and strategic Hubs or our civilian population centers, for us its all the same and will be considered as attack on the whole country, therefore it will be responded back in a much beefy punch.

Again no disagreement...

To take out the terrorists or what so ever u call them, in Pakistan is the sole responsibility of Pakistan. We are doing more then anyone else and we suffering more then anyone else. but i am not here to gain sympathies from you guys because of our sufferings or your appreciation for our actions against the terrorists. If you still think we are not doing enough, then go in United Nations and turn around all the diplomatic channels against us, Declare us a terrorist nation with UN mandate. If you cannot do even that, then wage a clear war on us, cause for us, there is no word of Damn "Surgical Strikes" in our dictionaries. And as Asim said in one place, If u attack, you will have to carry the war on our terms. so don't be dubious about it, no more.

I got the point that you are trying to portray...Basically if you attack us(no matter with what intention) we will respond back as if you have waged a war against us...and i believe there should not be any doubt about it and neither there is any....Now as far as surgical strikes is concerned than do we have any other options???? Don't you think India did have showed enough restraint in the past??? I know you may be inclined to crap indian restraint(be it Kargil...be it mumbai) as India lacks guts or capability to strike in Pakistan..however any sanity will make people blinded with hatred(not talking about you but in general) see that it was nothing but restraint because capability aside we don't want a war(it will hurt our overall dreams badly)... However as said in various post mumbai is a game changer...Even if GOI want it would not be able to ignore any such attacks..NO MATTER WHAT..period...the same way even if GOP wants she cannot ignore any surgical strikes in Pakistan by India.... So believe me surgical strikes is a word that our generals are very much aware of and have doctorines to implement it.... Rest how pakistan will respond to it would be the choice of Pakistan and her leadership...An all out war or reply the limited strikes with similar strikes etc.....

Rest the whole thing is a peace of crap, you guys know it as good as we know.

Not sure what specific thing you are calling as crap but i would take your words on it...


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Edited : Damn how to put an Indian flag here?? I used the same script identifier as used for Pakistan flag...
:india::india:

 

[Awesome]

dude...your knowledge of how cruise missiles work is not very good...
a cruise missile is made to evade radar detection...as it flies in a low trajectory...almost in a ground-hugging one.
just as armed helos are used for enemy SEAD as they fly low and evade the detection umbrella....
so a missile is a cruise missile if it follows the flight profile of a cruise missile.
Now the way you people discredit the capabilities of the Brahmos is fascinating...to say the least...
a cruise missile needs more capable SARs and more powerful processors for mapping the ground below as they maintain their flight path...being very low.
a supersonic cruise missile is very difficult to fabricate as it needs very very fast processors and a very good synthetic aperture radar...

You need to look up on Brahmos. It does not fly as low as cruise missiles should. It's an anti-ship weapon being marketed as a cruise missile. Simple as that!

 

[beckham]

Yes, but it need to be able to find the target. Nowadays, a cruise missile can be detected as look down-shoot down radars are common. The strength of the missile is the speed. But if its fast but not accurate, its useless unless its nuclear tipped.

The "unique" technology in the Block II missiles helps to hit even "insignificant targets" hidden in cluster of buildings.

The new unique seeker helps to hit targets, which are insignificant in terms of size, in a cluster of large buildings. India is the only nation in the world with this advanced technology.

LINK:Supersonic BrahMos Successfully Tested in Pokhran

Watch from 0:50,

 

[deckingraj]

. India is the only nation in the world with this advanced technology.[/B]

You mean India and Russia..right?? As far as i know Block II is also a JV like Block I

 

[graphican]

Army plan induction of BrahMos with 'surgical strike' option

This news has an interesting angle. Indian army is not telling they are Inducting Brahmoos Missiles but Inducting to make surgical strikes in Pakistan and this is the actual message. Its just like Pakistan would say "Pakistan has developed Ra'ad to target hideouts of RSS and people responsible to inflame terrorism inside Pakistan.

India is surely looking Pakistan to go offended and there must be a great plan behind every single move India is taking these days. Probably they are thinking it is the best time to take on Pakistan because 1/3rd of defense strength is placed towards the western borders or they have sensed that Pakistan is about to resolve its terrorist issues and the "chance" they see would not be there after few more months and also probably because Pakistan fairly flimsy in terms of economy and is chaired by langoor who will only bend down at the time of pressure.

My compilation of the issue is that Pakistan will not react to these provocative news. I am also suspecting a 26/11 kind attack coming in couple of months time because India is eager to indulge into some sort of conflict and gain what it cannot gain otherwise.. may be they would try to redefine LOC or even if India restrained, they would try to opt out of Indus Water Treaty.

 

[beckham]

You mean India and Russia..right?? As far as i know Block II is also a JV like Block I

I think DRDO developed the new seeker for latest land attack version developed for the Army. In the JV Indian contribution is in the form of the missile guidance software.

 

[jha]

me waiting for brahmos-2.

 

[deckingraj]

I think DRDO developed the new seeker for latest land attack version developed for the Army. In the JV Indian contribution is in the form of the missile guidance software.

Pardon my lack of knowledge on our specific contract however can we make some specific changes to Brahmos without sharing it with Russia??? I would doubt it...but would like to get corrected...