Army Chief Asim Munir, Imran Khan and ISI Chief should meet together with International Players & Guarantees to put an end to the Crisis.

[Jazzbot]

Sorry, no more deals. Hold the free and fair elections and let the people decide.

 

[NooriNuth]

Women being raped by Punjab police due to this Kanjar army cheif.
He gave the government his support and reason to mass arrest public, including women and children.
Just because one of GHQ gates was damaged, an old building was damages and some army ornaments were disturbed by public outside some military institutions.

 

[Sinnerman108]

COAS Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, Imran Khan and ISI Chief Nadeem Anjum should meet together with Guarantees & International Players

• The anger in Armed Forces and people of Pakistan for the 9-May-2023 events where Military Installations were targeted and ruthlessly destroyed. It was really one sad event. The Jinnah House aka Lahore Core Commander House burning hurts every Pakistani till today.
• To be factually correct "not" a single Fauji, Police man or a Ranger has been tortured or even murdered by PTI protestors or any Pakistani public.
• There is a huge doubt built in Armed Forces/Intelligentsia that Imran Khan is completely a loose canon, an opportunist, a selfish and a dangerous man.
• Imran Khan used propaganda by repeatedly using Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiq to Mr X, Mr Y campaigns to destroy the image of Armed Forces and its senior personnel.
• In-case something happen to Imran Khan, arrested again and murdered - there is a huge possibility of a severe backlash.
• PTI's point of view is how violently & badly Imran Khan was arrested at Islamabad High Court was just not humiliating for any Pakistani whose ex-Prime Minister was dragged badly by Rangers from inside the court. The Law of Jungle prevails but for how long.
• PTI political party has lost 25 workers, 7000 people arrested and violently treated in Police stations.
• Supreme Court and the Lawyers has been divided: the Constitution has been destroyed.
• Freedom of Expression has been suppressed through fear and heavy handed tactics against its own people.
• Without Elections even, PDM (PML-N, PPP and 10 remaining parties) are running the show. PDM has successfully made Pakistan totally weak and created a never ending fighting rift of PTI vs Military Establishment. PDM is jumping with happiness now.
• PDM is adamant to end Imran Khan & its Political Party PTI for good within Pakistan, while Nawaz Shariff/Zardari with all the looted money sitting abroad, destroyed 220 million livelihood is just enjoying the show. No Elections at all and making Armed Forces sub-subservient to Sharif and Zardari's power, the ultimate goal has been achieved.
• Imran Khan & its PTI leadership made many mistakes, economic mishandling, law & order situation, targeting our esteemed Forces, political immaturity by leaving power of Punjab & KPK.
• Pakistan's Economy is almost at the end. It is expected 1-August a default/dawaliaya will incur.
• Pakistan's world image has taken a big hit already calls for a wield martial law imposed in Pakistan.
• As the time moves on - the Human rights organizations are keeping a close eye on Pakistani situation which will be later used by World powers to arm twist Pakistan more & put sanctions.

My Opinion is :

Wake up Pakistanis, think about Turkish Erdogan a civilian . He stopped the Military Coup, arrested many Generals. Yet in careful hindsight of 5 years governance of his party - President Tayyib Erdogan made Turkish Economy the biggest and the Turkish Armed Forces as one of the strongest Military Forces in the region by giving them the maximum money, more weapon production and total political support with the total nation behind it. And yet today, the same Tayyib Erdogan almost nearly lost the democratic election, within a close fight to win again. This is called maturity and intelligent Patriotism and Nationalism.

To be honest - nobody is the winner in this continuous Power Struggle and Ego War inside Pakistan and Punjab especially.

Is there any possibility of break-through between the stakeholders - the high temperatures reaching to a boiling point before a major loss to Pakistan is incurred, please discuss realistic opinions?

Try qualifying your adjectives,
unlike Pakistani politicians, who will freely distribute adjectives to make something
like gory or otherwise,
you should try to be objective.

Military installations were NOT targeted and they were NOT ruthlessly destroyed.
There isn't a single installation which doesn't exist today, and it existed before 9th.
So qualify your remark.

People were not targeting military installations, they were venting out anger on
the military, which happened to be in those installations.

Maybe the Fauj should take a breath and think, why are people hating them ?
why are they found in the parliament ?
why are they found fingering politicians ?
why are they found always with their pants down ?

Elections are mandated by the constitution, the same constitution that Fauj claims to respect.
So why hinder election ?

 

[Imran Khan]

Munira mistri is 21 grade officer nothing more

9 may was golden day of our hisyory when nation slapped napak fauj

 

[Musna]

parde mai rehne do
parda na hata wo
salute to the men who have nerves of steel

 

[teX]

COAS Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, Imran Khan and ISI Chief Nadeem Anjum should meet together with Guarantees & International Players

• The anger in Armed Forces and people of Pakistan for the 9-May-2023 events where Military Installations were targeted and ruthlessly destroyed. It was really one sad event. The Jinnah House aka Lahore Core Commander House burning hurts every Pakistani till today.
• To be factually correct "not" a single Fauji, Police man or a Ranger has been tortured or even murdered by PTI protestors or any Pakistani public.
• There is a huge doubt built in Armed Forces/Intelligentsia that Imran Khan is completely a loose canon, an opportunist, a selfish and a dangerous man.
• Imran Khan used propaganda by repeatedly using Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiq to Mr X, Mr Y campaigns to destroy the image of Armed Forces and its senior personnel.
• In-case something happen to Imran Khan, arrested again and murdered - there is a huge possibility of a severe backlash.
• PTI's point of view is how violently & badly Imran Khan was arrested at Islamabad High Court was just not humiliating for any Pakistani whose ex-Prime Minister was dragged badly by Rangers from inside the court. The Law of Jungle prevails but for how long.
• PTI political party has lost 25 workers, 7000 people arrested and violently treated in Police stations.
• Supreme Court and the Lawyers has been divided: the Constitution has been destroyed.
• Freedom of Expression has been suppressed through fear and heavy handed tactics against its own people.
• Without Elections even, PDM (PML-N, PPP and 10 remaining parties) are running the show. PDM has successfully made Pakistan totally weak and created a never ending fighting rift of PTI vs Military Establishment. PDM is jumping with happiness now.
• PDM is adamant to end Imran Khan & its Political Party PTI for good within Pakistan, while Nawaz Shariff/Zardari with all the looted money sitting abroad, destroyed 220 million livelihood is just enjoying the show. No Elections at all and making Armed Forces sub-subservient to Sharif and Zardari's power, the ultimate goal has been achieved.
• Imran Khan & its PTI leadership made many mistakes, economic mishandling, law & order situation, targeting our esteemed Forces, political immaturity by leaving power of Punjab & KPK.
• Pakistan's Economy is almost at the end. It is expected 1-August a default/dawaliaya will incur.
• Pakistan's world image has taken a big hit already calls for a wield martial law imposed in Pakistan.
• As the time moves on - the Human rights organizations are keeping a close eye on Pakistani situation which will be later used by World powers to arm twist Pakistan more & put sanctions.

My Opinion is :

Wake up Pakistanis, think about Turkish Erdogan a civilian . He stopped the Military Coup, arrested many Generals. Yet in careful hindsight of 5 years governance of his party - President Tayyib Erdogan made Turkish Economy the biggest and the Turkish Armed Forces as one of the strongest Military Forces in the region by giving them the maximum money, more weapon production and total political support with the total nation behind it. And yet today, the same Tayyib Erdogan almost nearly lost the democratic election, within a close fight to win again. This is called maturity and intelligent Patriotism and Nationalism.

To be honest - nobody is the winner in this continuous Power Struggle and Ego War inside Pakistan and Punjab especially.

Is there any possibility of break-through between the stakeholders - the high temperatures reaching to a boiling point before a major loss to Pakistan is incurred, please discuss realistic opinions?

Munir is acting like a mad king. he looks like the male version of maraym sfdar.
IK might not have prob with munir n co, but munnu is brain washed against IK and they planned everything all this against IK, how can they sit with him. they dont care abt the country

 

[omegared]

COAS Syed Asim Munir Ahmed Shah, Imran Khan and ISI Chief Nadeem Anjum should meet together with Guarantees & International Players

• The anger in Armed Forces and people of Pakistan for the 9-May-2023 events where Military Installations were targeted and ruthlessly destroyed. It was really one sad event. The Jinnah House aka Lahore Core Commander House burning hurts every Pakistani till today.
• To be factually correct "not" a single Fauji, Police man or a Ranger has been tortured or even murdered by PTI protestors or any Pakistani public.
• There is a huge doubt built in Armed Forces/Intelligentsia that Imran Khan is completely a loose canon, an opportunist, a selfish and a dangerous man.
• Imran Khan used propaganda by repeatedly using Mir Jaffar and Mir Sadiq to Mr X, Mr Y campaigns to destroy the image of Armed Forces and its senior personnel.
• In-case something happen to Imran Khan, arrested again and murdered - there is a huge possibility of a severe backlash.
• PTI's point of view is how violently & badly Imran Khan was arrested at Islamabad High Court was just not humiliating for any Pakistani whose ex-Prime Minister was dragged badly by Rangers from inside the court. The Law of Jungle prevails but for how long.
• PTI political party has lost 25 workers, 7000 people arrested and violently treated in Police stations.
• Supreme Court and the Lawyers has been divided: the Constitution has been destroyed.
• Freedom of Expression has been suppressed through fear and heavy handed tactics against its own people.
• Without Elections even, PDM (PML-N, PPP and 10 remaining parties) are running the show. PDM has successfully made Pakistan totally weak and created a never ending fighting rift of PTI vs Military Establishment. PDM is jumping with happiness now.
• PDM is adamant to end Imran Khan & its Political Party PTI for good within Pakistan, while Nawaz Shariff/Zardari with all the looted money sitting abroad, destroyed 220 million livelihood is just enjoying the show. No Elections at all and making Armed Forces sub-subservient to Sharif and Zardari's power, the ultimate goal has been achieved.
• Imran Khan & its PTI leadership made many mistakes, economic mishandling, law & order situation, targeting our esteemed Forces, political immaturity by leaving power of Punjab & KPK.
• Pakistan's Economy is almost at the end. It is expected 1-August a default/dawaliaya will incur.
• Pakistan's world image has taken a big hit already calls for a wield martial law imposed in Pakistan.
• As the time moves on - the Human rights organizations are keeping a close eye on Pakistani situation which will be later used by World powers to arm twist Pakistan more & put sanctions.

My Opinion is :

Wake up Pakistanis, think about Turkish Erdogan a civilian . He stopped the Military Coup, arrested many Generals. Yet in careful hindsight of 5 years governance of his party - President Tayyib Erdogan made Turkish Economy the biggest and the Turkish Armed Forces as one of the strongest Military Forces in the region by giving them the maximum money, more weapon production and total political support with the total nation behind it. And yet today, the same Tayyib Erdogan almost nearly lost the democratic election, within a close fight to win again. This is called maturity and intelligent Patriotism and Nationalism.

To be honest - nobody is the winner in this continuous Power Struggle and Ego War inside Pakistan and Punjab especially.

Is there any possibility of break-through between the stakeholders - the high temperatures reaching to a boiling point before a major loss to Pakistan is incurred, please discuss realistic opinions?

The problem is not Imran Khan.
The problem is not all the armed forces.

The problem is a few people at the very top of the Armed forces in Pakistan.

It's up to the people to select a government, not the Armed forces.
There is nothing to discuss. What is happening is unconstitutional and illegal.

Questions are being asked by patriotic Pakistanis across the board, such as:
Are others, buying off our Generals to affect the foreign policy of Pakistan? Such as with Russia?
Do our Generals specialise in modern warfare or trading plots and getting kick backs?
How do we ever expect to liberate Kashmir, with these kind of Generals?
Is the Pakistani public paying far too much to an armed forces, that persecutes the public its meant to protect?

I agree with you that we should follow the Turkish Model, but with Imran Khan as PM not Asim Munir.

 

[blain2]

Women being raped by Punjab police due to this Kanjar army cheif.
He gave the government his support and reason to mass arrest public, including women and children.
Just because one of GHQ gates was damaged, an old building was damages and some army ornaments were disturbed by public outside some military institutions.

Is there solid proof of "women" being "raped"? Has it been documented? Please provide sources.

 

[NooriNuth]

Munira mistri is 21 grade officer nothing more

9 may was golden day of our hisyory when nation slapped napak fauj

This emotionally unstable snow flake is dangerous for the country in such an important position.

 

[Imran Khan]

This emotionally unstable snow flake is dangerous for the country in such an important position.

in his last speeches he is asking officers not to tell anyone what he said in meetings

 

[BamsiBey]

Why are Pakistanis so damn slow? even the educated ones are so lost, the writing has been on the wall.

It is as clear as daylight that this murderer coas was installed to kill IK and crush PTI by Nawaz and vested interest groups in UK/US/India. i highly suspect that India is also behind it. after failing many murder attempts, this coas pulled an operation black swan on IK and PTI.

How can there be any negotiation or bargaining with an opponent that is there to kill you??

 

[Goritoes]

America needs to step in and b1tch slap Pakistan Army, Its time to show them their auqaat, these Generals with their small PPP syndrome are destroying a nuclear Armed state.

 

[alphapak]

parde mai rehne do
parda na hata wo
salute to the men who have nerves of steel

Reminds of Bhai singing lol.

 

[Fasbre2]

Is there solid proof of "women" being "raped"? Has it been documented? Please provide sources.

Duh!.. sir me and Chotu raped the pti girl we picked up, do you want us to put it in the report… duh!..
You think the haramkoors are going to document this…

 

[xyxmt]

I think Generals will negotiate for their safety and immunity for their crimes against humanity but Imran is not willing to give any commitment.