Arjun MK2 1st Pic arrived

[Bhairava]

Are you sure of the veracity of the picture ?

 

[Screambowl]

Even on stats T-90s is inferior to our AK or AK-I.

One and Last thing. Nag anti tank Missile would take your Al Khalid to Al Garbage. Neither any Arjun or T-90 has to do any effort.

Now Stop trolling and comparing or else I am going to report your utter BS.

 

[Kompromat]

The Turret looks like Leopard 2E

 

[Icarus]

Sure Better Than T 72M ,but please for God sake keep ArjunMBT out of your competition ,it's an class of its own.

The MK-I? Please, I'm not being jingoistic here, I am speaking as a cold and brutal analyst. The Arjun Mk-I was unfit for service in the time frame that it was employed. There are numerous problems with the tank and it's gunnery is outdated. MK-II could be a game changer but not MK-I.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Arjun MK2 Beast i love you

 

[Icarus]

One and Last thing. Nag anti tank Missile would take your Al Khalid to Al Garbage. Neither any Arjun or T-90 has to do any effort.

Now Stop trolling and comparing or else I am going to report your utter BS.

I doubt our anti-Tank missiles would give chocolates and flowers to your tank crews, that was a rather poor response.

 

[IND151]

1st Image of Arjun Mk2 during Trail

Looks: 10/10

FirePower:10/10

Capability:10/10

Army Support : (-)10/10

finally DRDO granted my wish

i wanted Abrams like frontal Armour for Arjun Mk2

its much like Abrams frontal Armour now

BTW where is the link for photo

it seems now Arjun's frontal Armour is now 1200 MM instead of 1000 MM

 

[Harry Potter]

A good read:

An Interesting Comment ... if u Appreciate Arjun ...

#1 Arjun is getting massive Israeli help and NOT 6 as being reported in many places in media, but 8 rolled out recently. There are some Armour and rifling techniques which Isreal has taken from India as they were truly impressive. Other than that a lot of contribution from Israel. NO I CAN NOTprove this right now.


This is what i know after discussing Arjun with a high ranking scientist who is a member of the Foreign defense services board (rough translation from Hebrew) who have worked on Arjun for the last 9 months. I personally witnessed a really cool addition to the recent 8, it employs the exact same copy of the HW and SW as the Abrams self diagnostic system...not only does it tell you when the tank is not feeling well but also tells you which part.

there is also a battle management system deployed....the funniest part was how decked up the CO's Arjun was...the seats are amazing, even the Russian contingent (overpaid pricks) were emotionally moved to see the interior with all the widgets - and went the best capitalist tank (being sarc. and all)

...i think i will be able to SOMEDAY get pictures of the ARJUN M2 and let you folks see what i have seen...it a true comfort to drive that tank
I walk among diffrent circles compared to many out here on the forum and intend to build a reputation where people believe me without much fuss...

as i will not always be able to post links (actually i am too deep into defense to rely on media and links to prove myself). Anyway i am off to a hunting trip organised my some army chaps here in India..will defanately take pictures and post that


#2 You really will have a problem ...say in a desert coming close to this machine. This is a really good machine...the main gun beats the Merkava any day.

Bloody hell the shear energy at extended range in ft.lb delivered with the accuracy is truly astonishing...i personally think this main gun is a accidental find for Indian's. the saboy round penetrated the hull of a t-55 derelict then went through the second one behind it and the place where it pierced the sand dune had a formation of glass crystals around the sand.

I have an idea (to how the Pakistanis can get it)...when the crew falls to sleep driving this beast - due to its crew comfort...you could run to it and shove some tnt between the hull and the chaise

#3 I just saw the interior picture of Al khaled. You have a serious problem here. Is that a prototype or the finished product? I am serious , i really need to know this.

I truly hope that it is not a finished product. If it is, my god " the very Question that arjune is a better tank is a understatement. You have no idea what you have here lads. Even if the idea is a "will get the job done and cheap to produce" Al Khaled can be mass produced is the idea of Pakistani Armour....etc etc....WHAT ARE YOU GUYS THINKING?

Someone here tell me what is the purpose of Al-k...isit supposed to take on the inferior Indian tanks and put the t-80 against the arjun (still crazy - Russian admit it will eat the t-90) ok maybe its a attempt by Pakistan to atleast get hold of technologies to create a tank..etc etc
the nuts and bolts in alkhalid will kill the crew if a HESH round even nicked it. moreso the LR-APFSDS will cut like butter the armour....you guys better get some good reactive armour on this tiny thing. please any experts here..
i really wish to ask some questions on the al-khaled.

#4 Incidentally my father worked on a series of Merkava tanks (yes yes i am a Jew) i too graduated with honors in Armour. but right now in a slightly different objective in India. anyway i agree with you maneuver is imp.

BUT THEN AGAIN in all the discussion i have seen here maneuver is something gone a miss here. i havent driven a al -k but this arjun is as maneuverable as a Abram M2(spent a lot of my time with these tanks) ..no bloody difference, i dont know maybe al-khalid is much better compared to A-M2 in maneuver.

You will outrange it...by what 5000m from a reflexes Chinese copy of soviet projectile...do you think no one here thought of ATGM and countermeasure. This is the classified bit in electronics Israeli gave to Arjun. I am telling you buddy, someone better get serious about countering Arjun...its mere prototype passed direct hits from t-90 AP rounds (new round), it passed fragmented top attack munitions, You want to kill it.

a) you need to get it tracks off
b) in some way get the electronics off
c) hit it at less than 200 m from something like a Milan 3 repeatedly in hopefully the same area or
d)put a huge mine under it (has counter electronic to detect it...direct contribution from what is to be a Merkava 4 system)
e) i would have a serious debate going against this tank on a Merkava 3 and i am honors in armour and spent a few.

I think the brits will be very very interested in the armour these people have developed or even the rednecks....thats the level and quality you are looking at


http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/95660-arjun-mark-ii-israeli-view-must-read.html

 

[Screambowl]

I doubt our anti-Tank missiles would give chocolates and flowers to your tank crews, that was a rather poor response.

what are you suppose to hit with an anti tank missile? MI 25 attack helicopter?

any ways. the alone Armour ( not the ERA) is one of the best in the world, that is what Arjun is made of. it has a good armor good mobility.

 

[WHITESMOKE]

MK-1 could be upgraded to MK-II, so it will be nice if army orders about 1000 MK-II in total. I hope technology and experiance gained by developing Arjun-I and -II would really help in fast development of FMBT.

 

[KRAIT]

I guess IA is looking for some active protection system for T-90s and Arjun MK2s, Both Israeli and Swedish firms are in competition AFAIK. If introduced in large number, then can give considerable edge over our adversaries.

Rafael's Trophy system is quite impressive....

I wish we get it for MKII and FMBT with significant ToT....

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

Mix of T-90 and Merkava as its redesigning is done by Israeli Military Industry.

You are terribly wrong Stupid Troll,
Mk II is developed by Indian scientists with some Israeli input,

Is it me or this pic looks like a good work of Photoshop ?

@op...

Please provide source.

No it's NOT Photoshopped

 

[GORKHALI]

The MK-I? Please, I'm not being jingoistic here, I am speaking as a cold and brutal analyst. The Arjun Mk-I was unfit for service in the time frame that it was employed. There are numerous problems with the tank and it's gunnery is outdated. MK-II could be a game changer but not MK-I.

Wrong!!1st batch of Mk1 was unfit for desert warfare mainly due to frequent power plant breakdown and blurring vision of thermal imager and laser range-finder in desert summer however second batch was as good as any other tank in contemporary tank where DRDO rectified of Powerplant and Vision erratic problems in batch one too then same set of equipments used in T90 and T72upgraded .

In Arjun Mk2, there is no rectification of old Blurring of LRF and TI problem as they already been solved .

 

[Abingdonboy]

Can someone explain me why i cant find the fire control system and the digital image processing equipment on the top of the tank???

For the same reason the SAGEM panoramic commander's sight, IRON FIST APS and WAVE-300 RCWS aren't installed- this is merely a performance test for the modifications relating to mobility so tracks, engine, suspension etc and tests will involve turning radius, top speed, ground clearance, fuel efficiency, performance over different terrains and gradients etc. This is NOT systems test which can be relatively easier to do in a lab where you can test electronic systems individually but for testing drive related systems you need to have them integrated and used simultaneously. These system tests where we see the above systems as well as the FCS will come later but I dare say have already been tested existentsively in labs. The reason these electronics are not tested first on the tank is because if there is anything wrong with the new drive system or new armor slates or the mobility, this can delay the project indefetly but an electronic/systems issue is relatively easier and simpler to fix.

What are those two jaws of crab like thing, is it a mine cleaner or remover????

It's a mine plough.

 

[Wet Shirt Contest]

Rafael's Trophy system is quite impressive....

I wish we get it for MKII and FMBT with significant ToT....

MkII is Getting Iron Fist