Arjun MK-3 might be a reality now

[Jason bourne]

Arjun mk-2 with latest improvements might be ready for Army trials in June this year, but there has been some encouraging development in countries Main battle Tank’s saga. Delays in putting down requirements for the FMBT, countries next generation tank which Indian army hopes to field by 2020 might see rise of Arjun MK-3.

Arjun MK-3 if sources are to be believed will have some dozen improvements over Arjun MK-2 in terms of features in battlefield communication and engine refinement. DRDO is already working on a 1500 BHP engine for Arjun MBT and a further improved variant of it will also power FMBT in Future.

Army after lengthy trails for years refused to purchase Arjun MBT due to technical issues with the Tank, which DRDO took several years to remove all the flaws of the tank to make it acceptable to the Indian army, but Army had placed orders for only 126 tanks in first batch of Arjun MK-1 and later placed further orders for 126 tanks in Arjun MK-2 configuration which required some major and minor improvements in the tanks fire power and Armor.

Arjun MK-3 orders might come has a positive response from the Indian army , since DRDO time and again had maintained that orders less then 500 will the make the project development cost unrecoverable . further orders of 126 tanks will bring the total orders close to the required numbers and currently DRDO is also all set to revive the stalled self-propelled howitzer “ BHIM “, which will have a Arjun MBT chassis .

DRDO will select the Gun for self-propelled howitzer by end of this year and integration and user trials should take place next year.

Arjun MK-3 might be a reality now | idrw.org

 

[BLEND]

A lot of work load on DRDO this days.

Poor guys.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

To enjoy era of Mk-3,first we need to saw the might of Mk-2 in battlefield

 

[The_magnificent]

let us see mk2 1st. decision of MK3 will be followed i guess

 

[sathya]

come on for the first time.. DRDO seems use the time gap they got..

and they identified dozen areas of improvement... which is good

whether mark 3 takesoff or not , dozen features will be incorporated in all arjuns

 

[T90TankGuy]

lets see how successful they are.

 

[peep]

If the list of improvements sought by IA in the mk2 version has been achieved, Arjun MK2 deserves at least 500 tanks over the previous ones. We are after all moving towards indigenous tech right ? That indigenous talk is not a hogwash I would like to believe !!

 

[Kinetic]

Mk-2 is ready and developed. So Mk-3 must be a reality after 2015 as IA delaying FMBT. They could not even finalise the requirements for FMBT, which should have been done by now so DRDO can start work from this year.

 

[Tshering22]

The first step should be to test MK1 and MK2 in battle grounds. While tests against rival tanks proved good in the pre-induction test for Arjuns, the real test would be the battlefield. And since we are not fighting any armored warfare anytime soon, we will need to find another way to get Arjuns tested: Sell them to countries that are in full-blown wars.

While I might sound like a ruthless weapons industrialist, if someone can suggest a better option for Arjun's real-time capabilities, I am more than happy to hear them.

 

[Kinetic]

The first step should be to test MK1 and MK2 in battle grounds. While tests against rival tanks proved good in the pre-induction test for Arjuns, the real test would be the battlefield. And since we are not fighting any armored warfare anytime soon, we will need to find another way to get Arjuns tested: Sell them to countries that are in full-blown wars.

i think Mk1 is doing this for last few years. We have seen arjun in recent Ex Sudarshan Shakti. The real test in battlefield is not possible until we go for war. But testing against lighter tanks like T-90 which can resemble enemy tanks most can be useful.

While I might sound like a ruthless weapons industrialist, if someone can suggest a better option for Arjun's real-time capabilities, I am more than happy to hear them.

mate what do you mean by real time capabilities? specs of mk2?

 

[Tshering22]

i think Mk1 is doing this for last few years. We have seen arjun in recent Ex Sudarshan Shakti. The real test in battlefield is not possible until we go for war. But testing against lighter tanks like T-90 which can resemble enemy tanks most can be useful.

I am talking about full-blown war, buddy. Since we're not at war with Pakistan (most likely won't be in terms of armor warfare), it becomes even more important to have it tested by "someone else".

mate what do you mean by real time capabilities? specs of mk2?

It means how the tank performs in real time given the removal of controlled environment that usually tests are insulated by. A full-blown war is a perfect scenario where there is no cover and the tanks have to be their best (along with the tank crew skills of course).

How do you think US gets data for its military products? It finds warring countries and sells weapons to both sides whenever it itself is not engaged in wars around the world (rarely), and lets them "test" the stuff out.

 

[Kinetic]

I am talking about full-blown war, buddy. Since we're not at war with Pakistan (most likely won't be in terms of armor warfare), it becomes even more important to have it tested by "someone else".

I think "someone else" have already done so... the Israelis.

It means how the tank performs in real time given the removal of controlled environment that usually tests are insulated by. A full-blown war is a perfect scenario where there is no cover and the tanks have to be their best (along with the tank crew skills of course).

How do you think US gets data for its military products? It finds warring countries and sells weapons to both sides whenever it itself is not engaged in wars around the world (rarely), and lets them "test" the stuff out.

Actually in exercise like Sudarshan Shakti they created an environment like full war.

There was two sides in ex sudarshan shakti,

red army and
blue army.

Here the red army fought against the blue army in real time war scenario. We can mimic enemies capabilities with red/blue army.

I got your point but I do think think US sells weapons to both sides usually. Here in case of Pakistan, they have given some F-16 and P-3C which are not comparable to those they sold to INDIA. India also rejected all those weapons.

I think modified T-90 can resemble enemy tanks, as they do not have heavy tank like Arjun. what do yo think?

 

[Tshering22]

I think "someone else" have already done so... the Israelis.

When did Israelis test Arjun MBTs? Bhai, I am talking about getting the Arjun tanks exported to nations who are more likely to be in armored conflicts than us.

Actually in exercise like Sudarshan Shakti they created an environment like full war.

Of course it is as close to war as it could be in peace times. But that is why we need to focus on getting someone else to actually test it in full blown combat. 2 benefits:

- the user gets a world class tank.
- we get to see the results and expand our research.

There was two sides in ex sudarshan shakti,

red army and
blue army.

Don't say that. You will offend CPI . Kidding..

I got your point but I do think think US sells weapons to both sides usually. Here in case of Pakistan, they have given some F-16 and P-3C which are not comparable to those they sold to INDIA. India also rejected all those weapons.

I am not talking about our scenario alone but a whole load of conflicts raging all over the world. 90% of them has weapons that come from US companies or US-contracted companies. It has played this game well since WW2 got over. USSR was also into the game but they were more warm towards ideology than pure corporatist testing like USA.

 

[Kinetic]

When did Israelis test Arjun MBTs? Bhai, I am talking about getting the Arjun tanks exported to nations who are more likely to be in armored conflicts than us.

bro I think there were some articles regarding this. about exporting arjuns, i think GoI needs to take serious initiative for that.

Of course it is as close to war as it could be in peace times. But that is why we need to focus on getting someone else to actually test it in full blown combat. 2 benefits:

- the user gets a world class tank.
- we get to see the results and expand our research.

I am not talking about our scenario alone but a whole load of conflicts raging all over the world. 90% of them has weapons that come from US companies or US-contracted companies. It has played this game well since WW2 got over. USSR was also into the game but they were more warm towards ideology than pure corporatist testing like USA.

I got it. But you know India... peace..... harmony.... tolerance.... MMS..... lol

Don't say that. You will offend CPI . Kidding..

This is a reality dude, those CPI people are idealistic idiots.

 

[MUHARIB]

first i want to see a pic of mk2.