Arguments of choosing JF-17 Thunder over JAS-39 Gripen

[SQ8]

So in short which 1 is btter....Grippen or JF17 thunder

what about Groppen NG and block 2 of JF17 thunder...

DO you guys think it can compete it..?

Look through the thread for your answers..

 

[SBD-3]

Look through the thread for your answers..

The problems of newer Wiki generation....they never like the long way to their destination

 

[isi admirer]

i think jft is better plate form for pakistan it not only give us experiance in jet fighter industry bt also its very affordabale for pakistan and now we had started the j2x so it will also help in that and as far as gripen is concerned it is not only expensive bt we also cant upgrade it this is not case with jft..........

 

[Super Falcon]

while poor countrfy like pakistan cannot afford gripen if they even buy it it is big mistake becoz if we add few more funds in it we can buy twin engine figther jet as well

 

[epinephrine]

initially sweden refused to give us grippen n now we dont need it at all.we have equal or better birds available with us n more are in the pipeline

 

[isi admirer]

unit cost of j 10 is 27.5 million while unit cost of grippen is around about 40 to 60 million so why we invest on grippen while we have better birds like j 10 and also jft i think j 10 is comparable with jas 39 grippen and we can buy 2 j10s instead of two griipen along with no dependence on west for spare parts or up grades

 

[Tempest II]

The Swiss have chosen the Gripen and released some details: http://www.news.admin.ch/NSBSubscriber/message/attachments/25029.pdf

Note that they Max climb rates: Gripen >200m/s, Tiffy >200m/s and Raffy >250m/s.

In Dubai they revealed the JF-17 to have a max climb rate of 249m/s.

From these data, there is a very high probability the Gripen is inferior in the vertical to the JFT.

 

[Storm Force]

Swiss AiR FORCE have agreed to pay 3 billion euros for 22 Gipens NG.

That equates to roughly 140m euro for each Gripen

or $190m each

Switzerland Buys Gripen NG Over Rafale, Typhoon

This includes life cycle costs and weapons

delivery to start 2017 .

 

[ziaulislam]

these include life cycle costs and weapons man..this is very cheap if u include life cycle costs

 

[Storm Force]

At $190m each

200 GRIPENS over a 30 year life span will cost $38 billion

COMPARE

THUNDER MK1 Costing procurement only $650m for 50 planes = $13m each.

Even if we triple the THUNDER life time cost and weapons its stil only $49m each.

200 thunders x $49m each = $9.8 billon

ie the gripen is 4 times the cost of one thunder

 

[ziaulislam]

block 1 cost was nearly 1 billion dollars for 50 planes

this is only procurment cost..gripen according to article adds life cycle costs to...
still gripen is at least 2.5 times expensive than thunder..

 

[Storm Force]

Well if Gripen cost 2.5 x a Thunder

NEXT QUESTION

For PAF which is better

100 Gripens

or 250 thunders

That will answer this topic question

 

[PWFI]

Well if Gripen cost 2.5 x a Thunder

NEXT QUESTION

For PAF which is better

100 Gripens

or 250 thunders

That will answer this topic question

100 Thunders better then 100 Gripens---BTW i have miss u alot, no one is comparable to you in field of troll

 

[acetophenol]

thunder will always be the poor man's favourite due to its price.

 

[Luftwaffe]

thunder will always be the poor man's favourite due to its price.

If you look at europe and the spill out of economic fatalities around the globe, a $20M loaded JFT is no longer a poor man's commodity, it has become an essential purchase primarily to prevent further air crashes of previous generation obsolete airframes such as migs, phantoms, F-5, Fantans.

What is "poor man's favorite" when those poor countries total budget is less then $1 billion a $200M-400M hunt for 4th generation fighters are no more a cheap price, They are dedicating a chunk of their hard earn budget towards purchases by no means is a free money for them it is a big purchase.