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Arab News : Can Pakistan afford confronting US for Iran?

Arab news publish.only thoughts that benefit their agenda
I agree with you to some extent.

but then again, every country's news agency posts things to suit their agenda. This is nothing new.

Next, we should be for Pakistan First. Pakistan must not confront USA for Iran, ever!

Iran's foreign policy is messed up!
 
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@Serpentine @AmirPatriot I guess things are panning out nicely. Time for Pakistan/Iran to take back Western Asia from outsiders. Both need to eject USA/India out of Afghanistan and then working with China/Russia stabilize Afghanistan.

Indeed. I am very hopeful about future of Iran-Pak relations.


On topic, the source for the nonsense article is Arabnews, a Saudi regime mouthpiece media. Isn't it obvious from that piece how butthurt they are about new Pak gov and future of Iran-Pak relations? Isn't it obvious they are burning more than anyone else from the election of Imran Khan? UAE and Saudis ought to be the most butthurt countries who are not really happy about his election. Honestly, looking at past Pakistani leaders, it's obvious why they should be sad.
 
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I know Pakistanis in the past tend to have pro Arab sentiment understanble the whole "ummah thing" but in a serious note what have the Gulf Arabs bought to our country besides wahabbism and all the crap baggage from the Gulf plus the backing of courupt politicians in Isb.
 
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ISLAMABAD: At a time when Pakistan’s newly-elected government is striving to improve its foreign policy stance with the United States and Muslim countries, former ambassadors and analysts suggest exercising caution, especially in enhancing its relationship with Iran.
“Pakistan needs to review its foreign policy but it should not antagonize the United States by cozying up to Iran at this critical juncture,” Former ambassador Ayaz Wazir told Arab News.
The debate over the country’s foreign policy hit the refresh button following a two-day visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. The meeting, which concluded on Friday, also stoked a fresh controversy after Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi issued a statement supporting Iran on its nuclear deal.

Zarif visited Islamabad just days ahead of a planned visit by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for high-level talks with Prime Minister Imran Khan and his government.
“Pakistan stands with Iran in this hour of need,” Qureshi said in the backdrop of the US withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear agreement signed in Vienna, in July 2015, between Tehran and the P5+1.
“With regards to the JCPOA, while supporting Iran’s stance, Mr.Qureshi expressed the hope that the remaining parties to the agreement would uphold their commitments in letter and spirit,” Pakistan’s Foreign Office said.

Wazir, however, said that Pakistan’s improved relationship with Iran is of no use considering the current political climate. “Islamabad cannot increase its trade and economic activities with Tehran due to the United States’ sanctions,” he said. “Also, Iran cannot help Pakistan at any international forum due to its isolation in the international community but other Muslim countries and the US can.”

He added that Pakistan is faced with a looming balance of payment (BoP) crisis and it should look toward friendly Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, to resolve the issue.
Pakistan would require the help of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank he said, adding that Pompeo has already warned that the US would be closely watching to see whether or not the IMF bails Pakistan out.

Aziz Ahmad Khan, another ex-ambassador, said that Pakistan is not in a position to irk the US at the cost of Iran and should be careful in maintaining its bilateral relationship with the latter.
“The US has withdrawn unilaterally from Iran’s nuclear deal and slapped economic sanctions on it as well. I think this should have been enough for our leadership to keep in mind while promising to stand with Iran,” he told Arab News

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Khan said that Pakistan should improve its bilateral relationship with all neighboring countries including India and Afghanistan for peace in the region. “We should not give an impression to the international community that Pakistan is trying to improve its relationship only with Iran,” he said.

Political analysts and experts of international relations also suggested that the newly-elected government keep international scenarios in mind while reviewing the country’s foreign policy.
“Everybody knows that Donald Trump is fiercely opposed to Iran and his administration will not be pleased if Pakistan tries to stand by Tehran,” Tahir Malik, professor of international relations, told Arab News.
He said that the US is a superpower and has been pushing for Pakistan to cooperate with it to stem the scourge of terrorism from the region, especially Afghanistan. “Our Foreign Office should come up with suggestions to address the US’s concerns instead of further deteriorating the relationship in the name of foreign policy,” he said.
US-Pakistan’s relations remain frosty due to a deep and longstanding trust deficit. But the US has not imposed sanctions on Islamabad and continues to engage with it at a diplomatic level.
Zafar Nawaz Jaspal, an academic and political analyst, said that Pakistan has limited clout in the international community and it is not in a position to defend Iran’s stance on the nuclear deal.

“Pakistan should try to get its house in order first and avoid interfering in matters that could cause its isolation in the international community,” he warned.
Jaspal said that the Pakistani leadership is getting a unique opportunity in the form of Pompeo’s visit next week and should focus on it.
“Pakistan cannot afford confronting the United States for Iran and it should not do this for its own interests,” he said.


http://www.arabnews.com/node/1365151/world
I have different points of view..
Pak could not take such blatant act by itself, antagonizing both US n Saudia. I think it was the calculated risk taken on the nudge of China.
I am assuming that army n new govt r at same page.
 
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lol, we don't claim to be a superpower like you pathetic Indians do. lol ;)

When in reality India is super poor! lol.

this is your frustration , who claims india is a super power ? :D:D:D
 
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depends on the stakes, and intensity of the confrontation .
 
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ISLAMABAD: At a time when Pakistan’s newly-elected government is striving to improve its foreign policy stance with the United States and Muslim countries, former ambassadors and analysts suggest exercising caution, especially in enhancing its relationship with Iran.
“Pakistan needs to review its foreign policy but it should not antagonize the United States by cozying up to Iran at this critical juncture,” Former ambassador Ayaz Wazir told Arab News.
The debate over the country’s foreign policy hit the refresh button following a two-day visit by Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif. The meeting, which concluded on Friday, also stoked a fresh controversy after Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi issued a statement supporting Iran on its nuclear deal.

Zarif visited Islamabad just days ahead of a planned visit by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for high-level talks with Prime Minister Imran Khan and his government.
“Pakistan stands with Iran in this hour of need,” Qureshi said in the backdrop of the US withdrawal from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear agreement signed in Vienna, in July 2015, between Tehran and the P5+1.
“With regards to the JCPOA, while supporting Iran’s stance, Mr.Qureshi expressed the hope that the remaining parties to the agreement would uphold their commitments in letter and spirit,” Pakistan’s Foreign Office said.

Wazir, however, said that Pakistan’s improved relationship with Iran is of no use considering the current political climate. “Islamabad cannot increase its trade and economic activities with Tehran due to the United States’ sanctions,” he said. “Also, Iran cannot help Pakistan at any international forum due to its isolation in the international community but other Muslim countries and the US can.”

He added that Pakistan is faced with a looming balance of payment (BoP) crisis and it should look toward friendly Muslim countries, such as Saudi Arabia, to resolve the issue.
Pakistan would require the help of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank he said, adding that Pompeo has already warned that the US would be closely watching to see whether or not the IMF bails Pakistan out.

Aziz Ahmad Khan, another ex-ambassador, said that Pakistan is not in a position to irk the US at the cost of Iran and should be careful in maintaining its bilateral relationship with the latter.
“The US has withdrawn unilaterally from Iran’s nuclear deal and slapped economic sanctions on it as well. I think this should have been enough for our leadership to keep in mind while promising to stand with Iran,” he told Arab News

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Khan said that Pakistan should improve its bilateral relationship with all neighboring countries including India and Afghanistan for peace in the region. “We should not give an impression to the international community that Pakistan is trying to improve its relationship only with Iran,” he said.

Political analysts and experts of international relations also suggested that the newly-elected government keep international scenarios in mind while reviewing the country’s foreign policy.
“Everybody knows that Donald Trump is fiercely opposed to Iran and his administration will not be pleased if Pakistan tries to stand by Tehran,” Tahir Malik, professor of international relations, told Arab News.
He said that the US is a superpower and has been pushing for Pakistan to cooperate with it to stem the scourge of terrorism from the region, especially Afghanistan. “Our Foreign Office should come up with suggestions to address the US’s concerns instead of further deteriorating the relationship in the name of foreign policy,” he said.
US-Pakistan’s relations remain frosty due to a deep and longstanding trust deficit. But the US has not imposed sanctions on Islamabad and continues to engage with it at a diplomatic level.
Zafar Nawaz Jaspal, an academic and political analyst, said that Pakistan has limited clout in the international community and it is not in a position to defend Iran’s stance on the nuclear deal.

“Pakistan should try to get its house in order first and avoid interfering in matters that could cause its isolation in the international community,” he warned.
Jaspal said that the Pakistani leadership is getting a unique opportunity in the form of Pompeo’s visit next week and should focus on it.
“Pakistan cannot afford confronting the United States for Iran and it should not do this for its own interests,” he said.


http://www.arabnews.com/node/1365151/world




When we were nice and diplomatic to the americans, it ruined us, point blank. So screw them!!!!!!!!!!!!..........in fact antagonize and be rude to them galore, as Dr Henry Kissinger once said, "You are better off being america's enemy than friend" or words to that effect:

https://www.barrypopik.com/index.ph...cas_enemy_but_to_be_americas_friend_is_fatal/

american can go f**k itself
 
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Indeed. I am very hopeful about future of Iran-Pak relations.


On topic, the source for the nonsense article is Arabnews, a Saudi regime mouthpiece media. Isn't it obvious from that piece how butthurt they are about new Pak gov and future of Iran-Pak relations? Isn't it obvious they are burning more than anyone else from the election of Imran Khan? UAE and Saudis ought to be the most butthurt countries who are not really happy about his election. Honestly, looking at past Pakistani leaders, it's obvious why they should be sad.

Gulf Arabs always wanted Pakistan to be inferior to them and obey their commands. Our previous governments behaved like puppets in front of them. They brainwashed their people to hate Pakistanis, Iranians, Turks, Africans, etc. They are shocked to see this new rhetoric from Pakistan.

Actually, they fear losing their leadership position in the Muslim world to Pakistan, Turkey, and Iran.

What they don’t realize is that their failed proxy wars in Syria, Yemen, and Libya, coup in Egypt, and friendship with Trump and Israel have already made them lose their leadership position in the Muslim world.
 
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till the time we fear US and act according to their wishes we cant even hope of making any real progress. US will keep us threatening with economic sanctions and military might but i think its time for us to take some tough decisions. situation will become difficult but it will improve if we stay steadfast and ignore the fools who always take US as their god.
 
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Certainly we should have good relation with Iran. But the point is that Iran is warming up its relationship with Pakistan, now when India under US pressure is scaling down the import of Iranian oil and relationship as well. So it is not by choice rather it is a circumstancial approach of finding regional partners. So FO has take a bit cautious approach.

Pakistan would never want and should not unnecessay antagonize US. A cut off line has been set already which seems to be enough. Staying within its paramaters we must improve our relationship.

It is fact that no other country in the world has helped Pakistan finanically as much as Saudi Arabia has. Therefore we must go an extra mile in maintaining good relations with them..
 
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till the time we fear US and act according to their wishes we cant even hope of making any real progress. US will keep us threatening with economic sanctions and military might but i think its time for us to take some tough decisions. situation will become difficult but it will improve if we stay steadfast and ignore the fools who always take US as their god.

pakistan should come to terms with his capabilities .
 
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Gulf Arabs always wanted Pakistan to be inferior to them and obey their commands. Our previous governments behaved like puppets in front of them. They brainwashed their people to hate Pakistanis, Iranians, Turks, Africans, etc. They are shocked to see this new rhetoric from Pakistan.

Actually, they fear losing their leadership position in the Muslim world to Pakistan, Turkey, and Iran.

What they don’t realize is that their failed proxy wars in Syria, Yemen, and Libya, coup in Egypt, and friendship with Trump and Israel have already made them lose their leadership position in the Muslim world.


Having visited the Gulf I can assure the Gulf Arabs are the biggest scums in the region they mistreat anyone thats not them,they are the ones who push sectarian crap,racism toward even the Arabs from poorer countries, and they think by building skyscrapers and click bait tourism they are modern and we are shit to them or "Baki".I never been to Iran but I have met many Iranians in the past they are generally respectful to Pakistan and Pakistanis, and I have relatives who live in the UK who have done multiple road trips from UK to Pakistan via Iran and none had any issues in Iran in fact they were very helpful heck they did not even pay tolls to use the highways there and even one border town near Pak they got free place to crash,anyways I wish there was more cultural exchanges between the both neighbors we have more lot of things in common with Iran, Language Urdu uses the Perso-Arabic script, a lot of words are the same, cuisine and etc.I do think the Gulf Arabs are scared if more exchanges happen their infuence in Pakistani politics will dimminsh
 
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