Anti-Indian feelings exist in Bangladesh, says Sharma

[Hyperion]

Biaaaaaaaaaaaaaach....... I wasn't born yet!

So Uncle had his butt handed to him in East Pakistan or was it the other way around ?

And when this was happening where the heck were you ?

 

[Armstrong]

Bangladeshis should come back into the fold of Islam and trust Pakistan. We can overcome the tyrant, together.

Dafaaa ho jaaa; ghadaaron keh saath koi Bhai-Bhai nahin hotiii !

Biaaaaaaaaaaaaaach....... I wasn't born yet!

Oh so Uncle was all alone battling hordes of enraged Bengali Mobs while you were floating in heaven somewhere ?

 

[Hyperion]

Uncle alone was enough for them lungiz............. imagine if I were there too................

Oh so Uncle was all alone battling hordes of enraged Bengali Mobs while you were floating in heaven somewhere ?

 

[Armstrong]

Uncle alone was enough for them lungiz............. imagine if I were there too................

He then probably would've had to worry about his ever so feminine son squealing like a girl right besides him !

After all you're the only man that I know of who gets a manicure and a pedicure !

 

[HariPrasad]

Anti-Indian feelings have existed in Bangladesh to some extent, especially in the military circle, since the country’s war of independence in 1971, the chief of an Indian government-sponsored think tank said yesterday. “Like many, a country needs an external foe. After 1971, India replaced West Pakistan [now Pakistan] in that role. There is a national tendency to see an Indian hand behind all disturbing events,” Sitaram Sharma, chairman Maulana Abul Kalam Azad Institute of Asian Studies (MAKIAS), said. He came up with these observations while presenting a keynote paper at an international seminar on ‘Contemporary Thoughts on Bangladesh-India Relations: Challenges and Opportunities’, organised by the Bangladesh Institute of International and Strategic Studies (BIISS) at its auditorium in Dhaka.
Commenting on Sharma’s paper, former ambassador Mohsin said there exist no anti-Indian elements in Bangladesh; rather there are frustration and resentment due to India’s failure to deliver on unresolved issues.
About the significance of Dhaka-New Delhi ties, MAKIAS chairman Sharma said, “The importance of a thorough analysis of the current state of Bangladesh-India relations can hardly be exaggerated. India can remain indifferent to Bangladesh only at the cost of its vital political, economic and strategic interests.”
Aside from Sharma’s paper, five other papers were presented in the three-session seminar on issues relating to Bangladesh-India relations.
Senior civil and military officials including former ambassadors, members of the academia, businessmen, representatives of think-tanks, scholars and policymakers participated in the open discussions and raised their opinions, suggestions and questions on Bangladesh-India relations.
The presenters, discussants and participants talked about issues like border killings, water sharing of common rivers, maritime cooperation, VISA processing and e-token system, smuggling, cross-border terrorism, non-tariff barriers, informal trades, transit and alleged illegal migration to India.
MAKIAS director Sreeradha Datta raised the issue of alleged illegal migration of Bangladeshis to India, and said this issue needed to be discussed. “How long will Bangladesh keep denying this issue?” she questioned.
On this issue, former foreign secretary and Bangladesh Enterprise Institute president Farooq Sobhan and former ambassador Ashfaqur Rahman said despite repeated requests from the Bangladesh side India did not provide specific facts and figures about the issue.
“You cannot allege without facts and figure,” said Rahman.
He also said, “We have Indians here working illegally. It is said that they remit about $4 billion annually to India from Bangladesh. We are the second remitter of India.” “In order to build trust, we have to address the issues together.”
Summing up the seminar, Farooq Sobhan emphasised on showing some concrete actions from the Indian side on issues like Teesta water sharing agreement, LBA and border killings.
Failure to address these issues has impact on public opinion in Bangladesh, he said.
On illegal migration, Sobhan said, “During my tenure as the Bangladesh high commissioner to India, I had asked the Indians in vain for a specific figure.”
He also stressed the need for defining illegal migrants.
Stressing the need for working together, the former foreign secretary said India needs to realise the importance of Bangladesh in economic development of its northeastern states.
Similarly, he said, Bangladesh could also enormously be benefited from the cooperation with India.
BIISS Director General Major General SM Shafiuddin Ahmed delivered the welcome address with its chairman ambassador Munshi Faiz Ahmad chairing the first session of the seminar.

Anti-Indian feelings exist in Bangladesh, says Sharma

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The speakers at the seminar barely touch on the real reasons why there is deep resentment towards India in Bangladesh. For a fuller and deeper analysis please try my book The India Doctrine -

The India Doctrine (1947-2007) | Mohammad Munshi - Academia.edu

Majority Muslim state need to have an enemy. If they do not have, they will create one. They can not leave peacefully. India should be ready to respond to any act like killing of BSF jawans in future.

 

[scholseys]

Bangladesh is now a vessel state of India. It is logical for an unofficial state of India to be anti indian, even Indians are anti indians.

 

[greatone]

Bangladesh is now a vessel state of India. It is logical for an unofficial state of India to be anti indian, even Indians are anti indians.

Vessel state ? Really ?
I nominate you for Tink Tonk

 

[Bilal9]

He then probably would've had to worry about his ever so feminine son squealing like a girl right besides him !

After all you're the only man that I know of who gets a manicure and a pedicure !

kidz !!

Majority Muslim state need to have an enemy. If they do not have, they will create one. They can not leave peacefully. India should be ready to respond to any act like killing of BSF jawans in future.

This line of logic defies "logic" !

 

[Bilal9]

Vessel state ? Really ?
I nominate you for Tink Tonk

Instead of playing English teacher - dissect what he's saying...

India's foreign policy with larger non-Hindu neighbors has been a big fail for as long as I can remember. Not only Pakistan but Bangladesh and Sri Lanka as well. It is time things took a turn for the better. Maybe Modi is the man...

 

[greatone]

Instead of playing English teacher - dissect what he's saying...

India's foreign policy with larger non-Hindu neighbors has been a big fail for as long as I can remember. Not only Pakistan but Bangladesh and Sri Lanka as well. It is time things took a turn for the better. Maybe Modi is the man...

There is nothing of substance either his post or yours to dissect.

Is India's policy towards BD fail or are you our "vessel" state ?
At least maintain a consistent position for more than few seconds before asking for an intellectual conversation.

Hopefully now you realize why jamati posters have zero cred regardless of thier fuked up ideology.

 

[HariPrasad]

This line of logic defies "logic" !

How???

 

[SledgeHammer]

Anti-Indian feelings have existed in Bangladesh to some extent, especially in the military circle, since the country’s war of independence in 1971, the chief of an Indian government-sponsored think tank said yesterday. “Like many, a country needs an external foe. After 1971, India replaced West Pakistan [now Pakistan] in that role. There is a national tendency to see an Indian hand behind all disturbing events,” Sitaram Sharma, chairman Maulana Abul Kalam Azad Institute of Asian Studies (MAKIAS), said. He came up with these observations while presenting a keynote paper at an international seminar on ‘Contemporary Thoughts on Bangladesh-India Relations: Challenges and Opportunities’, organised by the Bangladesh Institute of International and Strategic Studies (BIISS) at its auditorium in Dhaka.
Commenting on Sharma’s paper, former ambassador Mohsin said there exist no anti-Indian elements in Bangladesh; rather there are frustration and resentment due to India’s failure to deliver on unresolved issues.
About the significance of Dhaka-New Delhi ties, MAKIAS chairman Sharma said, “The importance of a thorough analysis of the current state of Bangladesh-India relations can hardly be exaggerated. India can remain indifferent to Bangladesh only at the cost of its vital political, economic and strategic interests.”
Aside from Sharma’s paper, five other papers were presented in the three-session seminar on issues relating to Bangladesh-India relations.
Senior civil and military officials including former ambassadors, members of the academia, businessmen, representatives of think-tanks, scholars and policymakers participated in the open discussions and raised their opinions, suggestions and questions on Bangladesh-India relations.
The presenters, discussants and participants talked about issues like border killings, water sharing of common rivers, maritime cooperation, VISA processing and e-token system, smuggling, cross-border terrorism, non-tariff barriers, informal trades, transit and alleged illegal migration to India.
MAKIAS director Sreeradha Datta raised the issue of alleged illegal migration of Bangladeshis to India, and said this issue needed to be discussed. “How long will Bangladesh keep denying this issue?” she questioned.
On this issue, former foreign secretary and Bangladesh Enterprise Institute president Farooq Sobhan and former ambassador Ashfaqur Rahman said despite repeated requests from the Bangladesh side India did not provide specific facts and figures about the issue.
“You cannot allege without facts and figure,” said Rahman.
He also said, “We have Indians here working illegally. It is said that they remit about $4 billion annually to India from Bangladesh. We are the second remitter of India.” “In order to build trust, we have to address the issues together.”
Summing up the seminar, Farooq Sobhan emphasised on showing some concrete actions from the Indian side on issues like Teesta water sharing agreement, LBA and border killings.
Failure to address these issues has impact on public opinion in Bangladesh, he said.
On illegal migration, Sobhan said, “During my tenure as the Bangladesh high commissioner to India, I had asked the Indians in vain for a specific figure.”
He also stressed the need for defining illegal migrants.
Stressing the need for working together, the former foreign secretary said India needs to realise the importance of Bangladesh in economic development of its northeastern states.
Similarly, he said, Bangladesh could also enormously be benefited from the cooperation with India.
BIISS Director General Major General SM Shafiuddin Ahmed delivered the welcome address with its chairman ambassador Munshi Faiz Ahmad chairing the first session of the seminar.

Anti-Indian feelings exist in Bangladesh, says Sharma

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The speakers at the seminar barely touch on the real reasons why there is deep resentment towards India in Bangladesh. For a fuller and deeper analysis please try my book The India Doctrine -

The India Doctrine (1947-2007) | Mohammad Munshi - Academia.edu

Small neighbour syndrome.

 

[Bilal9]

There is nothing of substance either his post or yours to dissect.

Is India's policy towards BD fail or are you our "vessel" state ?
At least maintain a consistent position for more than few seconds before asking for an intellectual conversation.

Hopefully now you realize why jamati posters have zero cred regardless of thier fuked up ideology.

I don't ask for intellectual conversation where I don't see any hope for it. Nobody's asking for your approval of their 'cred' whether Jamati or not. The labeling came from you lot.

Why India's foreign policy is a fail so far has been done here ad infinitum and to some of us is a waste of time. But - maybe sometime later. Maybe @kalu_miah can weigh in.

 

[kalu_miah]

I don't ask for intellectual conversation where I don't see any hope for it. Nobody's asking for your approval of their 'cred' whether Jamati or not. The labeling came from you lot.

Why India's foreign policy is a fail so far has been done here ad infinitum and to some of us is a waste of time. But - maybe sometime later. Maybe @kalu_miah can weigh in.

There is no point in conversation with most Indians who are delusional to the extreme, except for a few posters. My advice don't waste your valuable time. Instead try to have conversation with people from other countries which is much more worthwhile.

 

[Bilal9]

Although this dates back to 2009 (some five years ago), it is illustrative of the role Indian diplomats play in fostering this unhealthy atmosphere of distrust. In fact - one could hardly call this 'diplomacy'. Granted that he was an idiot - but the foreign policy of India only nurtures hatred - and not much of friendship.

"Indian envoy’s arrogant assertions and govt’s undignified silence

http://www.newagebd.com/2009/jul/22/edit.html#1
(link is obviously dead after five years)

Indian envoy’s arrogant assertions and govt’s undignified silence

THE Indian high commissioner, Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty, seems to have embarked on a mission to vitiate further the already-strained relations between Bangladesh and India, making, at regular intervals, statements that are highly objectionable and seek to undermine the dignity and patriotic sentiments of the people in this country. In the past few weeks, he has tried to belittle water experts and environmentalists, and politicians for their opposition to the controversial Indian plan to construct a dam and a barrage on the upstream of the trans-boundary river Barak. Now, it seems, he has chosen the people of Bangladesh in general as the target of his diatribes.

According to media reports, Chakravarty alleged at a conference on ‘Bangladesh-India Economic Relations’ in the capital Dhaka on Monday that 80 per cent of the Bangladeshis seeking Indian visa ‘are touts and brokers.’ Such a remark tends to betray his inherent disdain and disregard for the dignity of the people in Bangladesh on the one hand and his estrangement from the ground reality on the other. The people in Bangladesh and India, especially West Bengal, share a long history that spans not just years but centuries. Many Bangladeshis have relatives in India and vice versa. A significant section of the Indian visa seekers are Bangladeshis planning to visit their relatives on the other side of the border. Yet another sizeable portion of the visa seekers are Bangladeshis who go to India for medical treatment, education and tourism. These people spend millions of dollars in India every year, contributing, in the process, to the growth of the Indian economy. These people mostly make up the long queue in front of the Indian High Commission every day, people whom Chakravarty has so disdainfully branded as ‘touts and brokers’.

Also, according to figures made available by the Federation of Bangladesh Chambers of Commerce and Industry, Bangladesh imported Indian products worth $3.375 billion in the 2007-08 fiscal. If informal trade is taken into account, Bangladesh provides India with a market worth some $5 billion dollars. With New Delhi evidently intent on maintaining the whopping trade imbalance with Dhaka, the least that Bangladesh expects is some sort of recognition, if not expression of gratitude, from India for its contribution to the Indian economy. Instead, as Chakravarty’s remark suggests, the Indian high commission in Dhaka seems to be too happy to denigrate Bangladesh and its people every now and then.

The Indian high commissioner was also quoted as claiming that some 25,000 of the Bangladeshis going to India with legal visas every year do not come back. It may be true that some Bangladeshis stay back in India even after expiry of their visas but it is also true that a good number of Indians reportedly also work in different sectors in Bangladesh, especially in readymade garment and information technology, without valid work permits. In fact, in an era of globalisation, such a phenomenon is almost universal and hardly surprising. What is surprising is that Chakravarty seemingly presumes that India is a lucrative destination for job-seekers, which it hardly is. Indeed, India has registered stupendous economic growth in recent years, at a rate comparable to only China’s. However, because of its skewed development model, India’s growth has been anything but distributive and has only widened the rich-poor, urban-rural divide. It is a matter of fact that while South Asia is home to half of the world’s poor, three-fourths of its poor population lives in India. Also, the Indian society remains incorrigibly segmented along caste and communal lines. Moreover, it is India where hundreds of poor farmers commit suicide every year upon failure to settle their debts with loan sharks and millions of female foetuses have been selectively aborted after pre-natal sex determination to avoid birth of girls since the 1970s. Indeed, the Bangladeshi society has its own share of misery which it has been trying overcome; still, we live in a far better social, economic, political and cultural milieu than our Indian counterparts.

However, while Chakravarty’s words and deeds defy diplomatic norms and minimum human decency, the Awami League-led government’s passive response to his obnoxious antics is equally, if not more, deplorable. Not only the government has been ignoring repeated demands of different sections of our society to ask the Indian government to recall Chakravarty, some ministers were found defending the errant diplomat for his offensive remarks only the other day. It is time that government realised that people voted it to power not to take affronts to the dignity of the country from foreign diplomats – Indian or else. The government should also realise that a diplomat like Chakravarty needs to be taken care of for the sake of improving the relationship between the two neighbouring peoples."